Y’all recommend Trezor or Ledger? 👀

Idk which is supported the best

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<bevanoff[m] "Idk which is supported the best"> Loose community consensus says Ledger, but keep in mind Ledger also stored PII for years after orders and then got breached

Which is somewhat ironic given 1) It's a security company and 2) They're based in France which has a better privacy/FOSS community (e.g. France gov uses Matrix, Framasoft is based there, etc)

About twice or three times. Lol.

* Which is somewhat ironic given 1) It's a security company and 2) They're based in France which has one of the best privacy/FOSS communities in the Americas or EU (e.g. France gov uses Matrix, Framasoft is based there, etc)

Who knows if they'll go bankrupt w/ all the class actions from the recent breach

I personally don't like either of them. Remember winning one of each in a random event, setting them up, and it all seemed so clunky and not user friendly to me I ended up trashing both, unsealed, set up wallets. Plea guilty, your honor.

One of the days Kastello, Monero communities own HW wallet will actually be a thing, maybe

Bummed kastelo has become a fairy tale. Would be great to have a dedicated hardware wallet. Hope something pans out soon.

* One of the days Kastello, Monero community's own HW wallet will actually be a thing, maybe

* Bummed kastello has become a fairy tale. Would be great to have a dedicated hardware wallet. Hope something pans out soon.

Hah! Bingo! Great minds think alike.

<rottenwheel "Bummed kastelo has become a fair"> What happened with it?

<Mumuks[m] "What happened with it?"> Good question...

<rottenwheel "Good question... "> And what is the good answer?

The short answer is that it's faded out. No updates to repo or Taiga tracker in over a year

Granted, COVID, so who knows, perhaps it'll kick back up again

Shame

<xmrscott[m] "One of the days Kastello, Monero"> I think instead of printing their own PCBs, the next gen kastelo devs could take inspiration from specter HW

and use off the shelf electronics

easy to bring the pieces together. and once the monero transactions done, easy to disintegrate the HW.

the original idea was to create and document a method so that others could build

but people didn't want ti think that their intent was actually their intent and kept asking for more

no idea where things stand in relation to either reality

xmrscott: were you the one who posted about suppressing the irc appservice stuffs?

anything other than join/parts

<xmrscott[m] "Desktop/Web enhancement request "> yup

i just ignored appservice in this room and those go away. its not like they go away though because the client still has to process it all to not show you. like on the mobile app, you see rooms with new message indicator but no new actual messages, just irc network events.

Ignore seems to be account based, not room based though. So if you ignore in -community it looks like you run the risk of IRC IDENTIFY requests being missed

i dont recall getting those in the room, only by PM

I think it would also 'ignore' PM messages given it applies 'ignore' to account in other rooms

Any clear thoughts on leveraging this to raise awareness/support for Monero?

Signal integrated MobileCoin, a Monero fork/derivative.

oh did moxie change mobilecoin from being a stellar fork?

Guess so

Though it uses a very different consensus mechanism

I'm guessing there's a white paper that explains why they're not just using Monero that involves some other than we need premine for funding?

* I'm guessing there's a white paper that explains why they're not just using Monero that involves some reason other than 'we need premine for funding'?

yeah just took a quick look, its at least still using stellar's paxos-like consensus

the consensus method is SCP, but it is a different network

by the way stellar is down lol

seth it is not a monero fork, it is a separate implementation of RingCT

Yeah, what wording would you use?

Protocol-fork?

Not sure how to describe it.

'another RingCT-based coin'

Thanks

UkoeHB: Any comments on how this ToS is enforced by the protocol/consensus members?

I'm not sure how this can be done if MOB is private by default.

the wallet code has a function that blocks US connections I think - all binaries have it

it isn't protocol

Interesting

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any other individual or entity whose dealings in MobileCoins or use of a MobileCoin Wallet could expose the Compliance Entities to civil or criminal liability or cause the Compliance Entities to engage in sanctionable conduct.

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* `any other individual or entity whose dealings in MobileCoins or use of a MobileCoin Wallet could expose the Compliance Entities to civil or criminal liability or cause the Compliance Entities to engage in sanctionable conduct.`

Not really sure how any of this works in reality

Unless the wallet remains closed-source and unavailable as an open protocol.

it is open source

the ToS is a policy of the dev team

(probably more meaning to it but that's how I understand it)

The weird thing is they explicitly make sending MobileCoins part of the ToS, not just using the official wallet software: `use or transfer MobileCoins `

beats me

Figured it was outside of your scope but you're the only person involved in MobileCoin who will respond to me :D

Wanted to see if you had more details, thanks for the responses!

np :p

sethsimmons: mobilecoin is the future

Adam Back disagrees LOL: twitter.com/adam3us/status/1379495912347742209?s=21

Very random reply to me on Twitter

No idea why he read my tweet

Can't we just smugly assume that hardcore bitcoiners follow Monero :D

Some might even hold Monero but we can't know :wink:

I'm buying a boat in order to have boating accidents later this year

sethsimmons: not sure why you call it 'centralized consensus mechanism', explainer?

It requires SGX and currently requires permission from MobileCoin to be added to consensus

Perhaps "permissioned" is a better term?

permission?

They couldn't just add support for XMR directly :P

Inge-: they had reasons, big conf times are the main difference

you can set up a validator node without MC help, but it is quite a hassle I think

And you're not allowed to join consensus if you break ToS, which includes minors and anyone in the US

so the bit about 'contact us' is like 'let us help you'

Oh

Thats very poorly worded

ToS still applies, but good to know

I am double checking on this...

That's my take on it

Centralized because it's permissioned is probably the most accurate take, but there could be exceptions in the future I guess.

sounds like you can set up a node, but in order to hear about tx you have to ask an existing node to broadcast to you (currently manual process)

sethsimmons: setting up a consensus node (or watcher node) is not ToS-breaking

Why is it so confusing

So you can validate transactions but not send them, and receive wallet connections but not process your own?

it has to do with MOB custody - custody of MOB is ToS-breaking, that is it

hey, whoever's making apparel. A fun thing to do would be incorporating the monero ports

like "OPEN 18080" on a shirt, yah know, in a cool way.

rehrar ^