03:26:44 <volantaryism1[m]> Monero circular economy when
08:12:08 <mechanic41turk[m> Nice monero related online platform idea: https://boards.4channel.org/biz/thread/33798742#p33806973
08:12:18 <mechanic41turk[m> Gumroad, but using XMR.
08:12:29 <mechanic41turk[m> Would be great to see someone spinning up such a platform.
08:14:02 <mechanic41turk[m> Especially considering the popularity of gumroad among the internet/twitter/youtube grifters... such a platform can easily put monero into the mind-space of as much normie consoomers and content-creators alike.
12:48:32 <gingeropolous> mechanic41turk[m, and those reorgs are why you can't spend your coins until 10 confirms after you receive
12:48:57 <gingeropolous> well wrong mechanimist[m]
12:49:06 <gingeropolous> too many mechanics
12:50:42 <mechanimist[m]> ah cool, makes a lot of sense
12:51:11 <mechanic41turk[m> gingeropolous: lol
12:51:31 <mechanimist[m]> so actually whenever I spend any monero my entire wallet balance seems to get locked until the confirmations come in, not just the amount that I spent
12:51:43 <mechanimist[m]> i'm not sure why that would be
12:52:26 <mechanimist[m]> idk, is that how it's supposed to work?
12:52:32 <gingeropolous> yeah, thats because all of your monero is in one output
12:52:55 <mechanimist[m]> is the rest getting sent back to a "change address" or something like that?
12:53:08 <gingeropolous> so the transaction has to eat that output as an input, and then spit out two new outputs - one to wherver your sending it, and the other is change
12:53:10 <gingeropolous> so yes, change
12:53:33 <mechanimist[m]> i see
12:54:06 <gingeropolous> you can avoid this lock by creating a stack of outputs
12:54:09 <LyzaLittle> the GUI imo does a disservice by hiding the outputs entirely
12:54:21 <mechanimist[m]> in  a world where people use monero for day to day street transactions i wonder what people would do
12:54:21 <LyzaLittle> can't really see what you've got
12:54:33 <gingeropolous> well, the gui is meant to be simple
12:54:39 <gingeropolous> perhaps they are viewable in advanced mode?
12:54:47 <LyzaLittle> they are not unfortunately
12:54:48 <gingeropolous> output management has been talked about for advance mode
12:55:08 <LyzaLittle> would be a big change though Ik
12:55:41 <LyzaLittle> but yeah though if you've got 4-5 outputs in your wallet you can go on a shopping spree no problem, and that's a lot easier now that the GUI supports multiple outputs
12:55:43 <gingeropolous> have any other GUI wallets done it? That way we could see how the UI is done
12:56:05 <gingeropolous> but the UI on that would be the primary hurdle prolly
12:56:14 <LyzaLittle> <gingeropolous> feather wallet has output management but it's styled after electrum so I dunno how helpful it would be from a design perspective
12:56:27 <gingeropolous> gotcha
13:01:01 <LyzaLittle> if you're curious though it looks like this, just a separate tab that lists outputs. you can sweep an output, plus freeze/thaw https://i.ibb.co/4Y0sDBW/image.png
13:01:46 <LyzaLittle> they turn blue when frozen
15:19:05 <save_g[m]> good day
16:13:10 <msvb-web7> Do we have a community meeting today?
16:16:47 <msvb-web7> I guess we have no community meeting today, okay.
16:25:14 <xmrscott> Nope, no meta, no meeting
18:02:36 <msvb-lab> Hello.Hello.
19:04:15 <bevanoff[m]> I’m trying to make a CCS MR but gitlab says I’ve reached my project limit (0?). Anybody know how to resolve this?
19:05:33 <selsta> bevanoff[m]: don't sign up using github acc
19:08:02 <bevanoff[m]> selsta: ty
19:08:15 <selsta> it can be fixed if you message moneromooo
19:08:26 <selsta> but it is easier to just create gitlab acc
19:08:36 <bevanoff[m]> Nah it’s okay I just registered a new account
19:21:17 <mandelbrot42[m]> sethsimmons do you use Cake wallet on Calyx OS, is it possible? Thinking of getting a phone  pre-installed with Calyx is from mamushi
19:22:16 <mandelbrot42[m]> * sethsimmons do you use Cake wallet on Calyx OS, is it possible? Thinking of getting a phone  pre-installed with Calyx  from mamushi
19:23:17 <mandelbrot42[m]> * sethsimmons  do you use Cake wallet on Calyx OS, is it possible? Thinking of getting a phone  pre-installed with Calyx  from mamushi
19:26:41 <bevanoff[m]> I’ve opened a CCS MR in which I seek funding to work on putting together a good user friendly implementation of 2/2 multisig and 2/3 multisig in the core GUI wallet as well as some other smaller GUI things. I’d appreciate a look and any comments/criticism :)
19:26:45 <bevanoff[m]> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/225
20:06:34 <sethsimmons> <mandelbrot42[m] "sethsimmons do you use Cake wall"> I use Monerujo more but Cake works great, no issues! I'm not even using microG FWIW.
20:06:58 <sethsimmons> <bevanoff[m] "I’ve opened a CCS MR in which I "> Will take a look! Always glad to see more people diving in to contribute 🙂
20:25:01 <rottenwheel> Poll for what name should Monero's village have during DEFCON 29: https://civs1.civs.us/cgi-bin/vote.pl?id=E_42221e16627fde0f&akey=140c5cd3dcceb6cf
20:25:02 <rottenwheel> Taiga task: https://taiga.getmonero.org/project/michael-monero-village-at-defcon/task/12
20:39:55 <volantaryism1[m]> Voted for privacy
21:07:37 <snowkeld[m]> <mandelbrot42[m] "sethsimmons do you use Cake wall"> Cake works great on calyx and graphene. No issues at all. No reliance on Google.
21:49:03 <mandelbrot42[m]> <sethsimmons "I use Monerujo more but Cake wor"> Perfect! I really appreciate the confirmation and info! Much appreciated. Looks I'll be getting my first de-googled phone soooooon :)