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15:03:22 <spirobel[m]> hey somehow the ip range of my provider is banned in the getmonero.org forum. Or maybe its because I am in Taiwan. Can someone tell me who I can reach out to? I tried to email dev⊙go but so far no response.
15:05:09 <Mumuks[m]> spirobel: VPN?
15:05:20 <spirobel[m]> i dont have a vpn
15:05:29 <spirobel[m]> i live here
15:06:09 <Mumuks[m]> <spirobel[m] "i dont have a vpn "> You should
15:06:32 <spirobel[m]> why? i dont trust vpns
15:06:41 <spirobel[m]> also this is really bad ux
15:06:46 <spirobel[m]> i want to contribute
15:06:48 <Mumuks[m]> How do you know the problem is the IP has been banned by your ISP?
15:06:53 <spirobel[m]> i am not a spammer
15:07:00 <spirobel[m]> <Mumuks[m] "How do you know the problem is t"> nooooo
15:07:07 <save_g[m]> Mullvad VPN is pretty good
15:07:58 * spirobel[m] uploaded an image: (111KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/DGQFbAzmKbiQWWwJBYmendnx/Screenshot_2021-04-25%20Monero%20Forum.png >
15:08:09 <spirobel[m]> its banned by the forum
15:08:53 <spirobel[m]> <save_g[m] "Mullvad VPN is pretty good"> i am not routing my traffic through some randos computer. thats what a vpn is in essence: snakeoil
15:09:39 <save_g[m]> Is there a better way to get through geoblocking
15:09:49 <save_g[m]> Also all the good vpns are open source
15:09:50 <spirobel[m]> <Mumuks[m] "How do you know the problem is t"> the monero forum banned the ip range. the isp is fine
15:10:01 <Mumuks[m]> <spirobel[m] "i am not routing my traffic thro"> That is also what the internet is
15:10:34 <spirobel[m]> okay so who is in charge of running the forum?
15:10:39 <Mumuks[m]> <spirobel[m] "the monero forum banned the ip r"> I see, you'll have to contact them and wait for an answer. I would not.be surprised if that was automatic.
15:11:14 <spirobel[m]> <Mumuks[m] "I see, you'll have to contact th"> so who do I need to contact? who hosts the forum and is responsible for this?
15:11:33 <Mumuks[m]> I do not know
16:11:28 <xmrscott> <spirobel[m] "hey somehow the ip range of my p"> https://forum.getmonero.org/ has been closed for roughly two years
16:13:17 <xmrscott> Due in part to the platform it was using not being spam resistant. Arguably next best forum since it's being ran by a Monero Workgroup is https://forum.monero.space/ although obviously it's not super active since it's not based off of getmonero .org
16:14:28 <spirobel[m]> <xmrscott "Due in part to the platform it w"> makes sense
16:16:39 <spirobel[m]> <xmrscott "Due in part to the platform it w"> its kind of ironic that i wanted to signup to the forum to talk about integrating monero with a different forum (software) this was the message I wanted to put there: I develop plugins for the forum software discourse.org
16:17:08 <spirobel[m]> and i didnt recognize it was broken and closed lol
16:17:14 <spirobel[m]> i thought my ip range was banned.
16:19:00 <xmrscott> Yeah, if you look at the forums posts there hasn't been anything on the getmonero forums for two years, and that was because of all the medical supplement spam, etc
16:19:48 <xmrscott> If you want to develop integration for Discourse and get a pulse from the community on it, your best bet for feedback would be Reddit
16:21:54 <xmrscott> It would really cool to have a forum platform w/ Monero integration, so if you're able to make it happen, I can see the Monero workgroup ran forum switching to Discourse from Flarum to take advantage
16:23:43 <spirobel[m]> great! I also like flarum. Its just that I invested a lot of time into learning the discourse codebase.
16:24:03 <spirobel[m]> And its very mature.
16:24:32 <spirobel[m]> I dont know if there is something like the subscriptions plugin for example for flarum
16:24:47 <kinghat[m]> int there a free/open version of dicourse? i just saw it the other day.
16:25:03 <spirobel[m]> yes. discourse is an open source project just like flarum
16:25:35 <spirobel[m]> its just that discourse has a company behind it. (i am not part of this company) i just write open source plugins for it
16:28:04 <spirobel[m]> they make money by hosting it and writing some enterprise modifications for it.  I think thats great because it does not really affect the normal users and ensures continued development
16:31:37 <xmrscott> Yep, I prefer to the more heavily freemium model of stuff like GitLab
16:32:42 <spirobel[m]> <xmrscott "Yep, I prefer to the more heavil"> How is it at gitlab? does the ce editon lack features?
16:34:40 <xmrscott> Yes, there are a couple of features locked behind the EE
16:38:22 <xmrscott> Stuff that is arguably useful to have (e.g. better search, better approver/issues controls, dependency scanning (especially given a lot of library supply chain attacks as of late))
16:41:17 <spirobel[m]> <xmrscott "Stuff that is arguably useful to"> okay makes sense. With discourse its really not like that. I mean maybe for someone who is not using it as a forum but is a corpo boss. But even these features can be replicated by stitching together plugins. If you are just using it as a forum there are no issues in this regard.
16:47:05 <xmrscott> Oh yeah, that's what I was trying to say, it's nice that Discourse's model is not as heavy handed as GitLab
16:54:59 <fluffydonkey[m]> Hello, I'm setting up the monero plugin for wordpress, should I pull in the latest master or download the latest release (2018)
16:55:01 <spirobel[m]> <xmrscott "Oh yeah, that's what I was tryin"> true haha but I mean it also has its downsides. The codebase has a lot of opinions in it. I think for example the usability could be better. I see this as a challenge and try to improve it. I also did a lot of research and compared different forum systems out there. I think even with the drawbacks its still the best. I want to use it to create communities online that
16:55:01 <spirobel[m]> are not controlled by the government or the zoiykelbugs of this world. I think this lineage of forum software still has a lot to offer even in this faster paced world of matrix and discord etc.
16:55:19 <fluffydonkey[m]> i guess I'll pull the latest master
17:16:44 <spirobel[m]> <fluffydonkey[m] "Hello, I'm setting up the monero"> you mean this plugin:  https://github.com/monero-integrations/monerowp  right? do you need to run your own monero node or is it enough to connect to a remote node?
17:17:00 <fluffydonkey[m]> I'm running my own node
17:17:11 <fluffydonkey[m]> And yeah, that plugin
17:17:58 <fluffydonkey[m]> I already have a monerod node up and running, but trying to figure out how to set up the wallet rpc server
17:19:11 <spirobel[m]> <fluffydonkey[m] "I already have a monerod node up"> do you need to sync the whole chain?
17:19:27 <fluffydonkey[m]> That's already been done
17:19:59 <fluffydonkey[m]> When the plugin wants a port and ip address for the " Monero wallet RPC Host/IP "  is it talking about the monerod daemon, or something else?
17:21:23 <spirobel[m]> <fluffydonkey[m] "When the plugin wants a port and"> I just took a look at this: https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/wallet-rpc.html seems like thats the case
17:23:03 <fluffydonkey[m]> I'm confused because I have a binary called monero-wallet-rpc in addition to monerod. Is it just a client then?
17:23:17 <fluffydonkey[m]> If that's the case, how's that different from monero-wallet-cli
17:25:45 <anon_82641[m]> Both the rpc wallet and wallet cli are clients of the monero daemon
17:27:06 <spirobel[m]> <fluffydonkey[m] "That's already been done"> how much disk space does it take? I am wondering if the disk space of a typical vps can suffice.
17:28:19 <fluffydonkey[m]> ~95GB unpruned
17:28:40 <fluffydonkey[m]> no, i'm reading the wrong metric 🤦‍♀️
17:28:51 <fluffydonkey[m]> ~104GB
17:35:27 <spirobel[m]> <fluffydonkey[m] "~104GB"> hm okay...i m thinking it might be better in some cases to trust a remote node to improve usability. What are the implications of that? I like the usability of the exodus wallet for example. But I am unsure what the downsides of this tradeoff are. I wonder if I should include a monero demon in my discourse integration plugin or if using a remote node is enough. I read this guide:
17:35:27 <spirobel[m]> https://sethsimmons.me/guides/run-a-monero-node/
17:42:43 <fluffydonkey[m]> <spirobel[m] "hm okay...i m thinking it might "> Do you mean using a remote node for using with your wallet, or for accepting payments on a website?
17:45:23 <spirobel[m]> <fluffydonkey[m] "Do you mean using a remote node "> for example when i was using the exodus wallet instead of the monero gui wallet I didnt have to download 100 gb it worked right away. I am assuming this wallet uses a remote node. This discourse integration I want to work on will essantially be accepting payments on a website yes. Is there a fundamental difference between a wallet app and this kind of use
17:45:23 <spirobel[m]> case?
17:45:25 <donkeydonkey> the wallet-cli allows people to interface directly with their wallet. the wallet-rpc provides endpoints for other software to interface with your wallet.
17:47:55 <fluffydonkey[m]> <spirobel[m] "for example when i was using the"> I don't think it's a big deal to use a remote node. I'm questioning why I set mine up :|
17:48:38 <fluffydonkey[m]> There was an known attack vector a couple of years ago where an evil node could reduce your privacy by having you make the request multiple times
17:49:03 <fluffydonkey[m]> That has been fixed, but I think since then, the recommendation has been to use a local node if you can
17:49:39 <fluffydonkey[m]> I think you can find a list of nodes run by trusted members of the community on the subreddit
17:51:40 <spirobel[m]> <fluffydonkey[m] "I think you can find a list of n"> okay great thanks for the info
17:52:07 <fluffydonkey[m]> You should get a second opinion though. I'm just starting out too
17:54:45 <spirobel[m]> <fluffydonkey[m] "You should get a second opinion "> I wonder if the mymonero server could be used with this: https://github.com/mymonero/mymonero-core-cpp https://mymonero.com/
17:56:26 <fluffydonkey[m]> You don't need to mess with C++ if you just want to send/receive payments
17:56:42 <fluffydonkey[m]> There are multiple wallet clients in different languages that you can use
17:57:16 <fluffydonkey[m]> They connect with the monero-wallet-rpc to perform transactions. And the wallet-rpc server talks to the remote monero node
17:58:04 <spirobel[m]> <fluffydonkey[m] "They connect with the monero-wal"> its this one, right? https://moneroecosystem.org/
17:58:15 <fluffydonkey[m]> Yeah
20:39:04 <luigi1111> hi
20:39:18 <luigi1111> try again
21:12:33 <txdistiller512> hi
21:13:06 <txdistiller512> does anyone know anything about the wookey wallet.
21:14:11 <txdistiller512> getting a transfer error of invaild output
21:44:51 <txdistiller512> thanks for the assist @luigi1111
21:53:04 <txdistiller512> .
22:13:36 <txdistiller512> any  ideas on how to move monies from  this app
22:46:10 <volantaryism1[m]> txdistiller512: what wallet are you struggling with?
23:57:04 <txdistiller512> Volantaryism: just saw your post. I have an XMR wallet called Wookey that I can not transferr out of. the error is invaild output
23:58:19 <LyzaLittle> oooph, do you have a 24-word recovery phrase?
23:59:53 <LyzaLittle> I've never heard of that wallet so my instinct says to recover it to the official GUI or something then generate a new walelt too and send your XMR there. maybe it can be trusted but, I don't know of anyone using it