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gingeropolous
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hyc
what wut? someone put an invalid unlock time in atxn?
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moneromooo
Are there invalid unlock times ?
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hyc
if it's smaller than a unix timestamp it's treated as a block height. so a new txn with a block height in the past seems kinda pointless
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hyc
and likewise if it is a timestamp, a timestamp in the past is still pointless
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hyc
?
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moneromooo
Pointless, sure.
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hyc
but is it always an absolute block height? or relative? if unlock_time=5 what is it interpreted as?
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Inge-
98% of all specified unlock_time transactions set a low-integer value? "These low-integer unlock_time values do not make semantic sense, so the developer’s intent is unclear. Perhaps they thought block times were relative rather than absolute, or the field is used for something else unrelated to unlock_time."
thecharlatan.ch/Monero-Unlock-Time-Privacy
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moneromooo
AFAIK that means block 5.
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hyc
so it is always an absolute block height
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moneromooo
No, it can be a UNIX time too as you said above.
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hyc
ok. *when* it is a block height, it is absolute
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moneromooo
Yes.
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moneromooo
Preventing mining txes with unlock time in the past could give txes a validity range. But that might make scamming easier.
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moneromooo
ie, give your tx 10 blocks to go but use a tiny fee...
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masken8
I have a question. Suppose I withdraw my Monero from exchange A and I send it to someone, eventually it ends up on exchange B. Assuming the Feds have access to both exchanges wallets what stops them from traversing the ring members transactions until they find the real path by finding a common transaction?
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binaryFate
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binaryFate
If either A or B is concerned about that risk they should churn
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masken8
I see
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Inge-
and by churn, you probably mean sweep_single n times at some random intervals?
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binaryFate
yes
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binaryFate
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masken8
I'll check it out
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masken8
Is there a reason a high privacy transaction option has not been added to the GUI wallet?
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binaryFate
asga32ag: not that I know
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binaryFate
masken8: what do you mean by "high privacy transaction"?
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gingeropolous
prolly churning
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masken8
"The ability of Alice to increase her anonymity set when sending funds to Bob can be implemented as a "high privacy" transaction option that automatically takes care of queuing up the intermediate churn transactions prior to funds ultimately being sent to Bob."
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binaryFate
no reason besides that nobody implemented it I guess
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masken8
I would implement it but I'm not very good at C++. I'll make a feature request.
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NickvanSaberhagn
It’s an interesting idea, really. A SEND button in the GUI that churns and then sends newly churned funds in a way that places the tx right in the middle
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NickvanSaberhagn
Of the ring selection
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moneromooo
lol
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hyc
not very useful unless it inserts random delays between steps
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hyc
usually when someone hits SEND they want it to happen NOW
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moneromooo
I have a super old patch that sends txes on a timer, using poisson delays.
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moneromooo
That was for transfer, back when txes were often split, but the principle's the same.
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hyc
and you really can't just randomize the transmit time. you need to randomize across multiple blocks
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moneromooo
What do you mean by across multiple blocks ?
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hyc
eh I guess that was implicit. you can't churn the output until it has been mined into a new block anyway
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hyc
never mind
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moneromooo
Oh OK.
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hyc
so you can't just set a timer for "resend this after N minutes"
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hyc
you have to count blocks
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hyc
"resend this after (10 block minimum + random#)
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hyc
"
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binaryFate
I think ideally it should draw the number of blocks using the same sampling as the ring sampling distribution. Since in both cases you want the same thing: stick to what is supposedly the true spend distribution and make your random drawings indinstuishable from it
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binaryFate
Except you don't want to wait weeks to churn so you need to upper bound it somehow
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hyc
prob something on the order of 12-24 hours
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binaryFate
A simple thing like draw with gamma distribution + resample if outcome >24h, should be pretty solid already
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asga32ag
is there anything visible on the blockchain/network monitors that could explain the problems multiple exchanges have? transaction numbers don't look like anything out of the ordinary
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asga32ag
also kraken now has pretty much the same message for nano.....it's weird
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selsta
asga32ag: there is no network issue
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selsta
also kraken resolved their issue
status.kraken.com
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asga32ag
in the long list of walllets monero is still marked with "degraded performance" just like nano though
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selsta
whatever their issue is is probably not on network side, also no one reached out
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selsta
fwiw multiple people reported successful withdrawals on kraken even with the message displayed
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john_r365
names
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john_r365
*/ names -> sorry, ignore me