04:55:10 <hyc> it would probably be smarter just to increase number of iterations as a gradual diff increase
04:55:39 <hyc> doubling dataset size should only be done when we know tech level has gotten there, cache sizes are all 2x what they are today, etc.
10:42:16 <sech1> another day, another Intel exploit: https://software.intel.com/security-software-guidance/software-guidance/l1d-eviction-sampling
10:43:05 <sech1> https://www.techpowerup.com/263355/cacheout-is-the-latest-speculative-execution-attack-for-intel-processors
11:55:38 <gingeropolous> total miners 29249
12:46:02 <sech1> To anyone saying "profitability on RandomX is terrible": https://whattomine.com/coins/101-xmr-randomx?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=90000.0&p=1000.0&fee=0.0&cost=0.1&hcost=0.0&commit=Calculate
12:46:15 <sech1> 1 kW Ryzen 3900X farm earns $4.72/day
12:46:34 <sech1> 1 kW of ASIC power earns $1.33/day on BTC: https://whattomine.com/coins/1-btc-sha-256?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=25000.0&p=1000&fee=0.0&cost=0.1&hcost=0.0&commit=Calculate
12:47:08 <sech1> 5x1080 Ti (1 kW) rig earns $1.59/day: https://whattomine.com/coins?utf8=%E2%9C%93&adapt_q_380=0&adapt_q_fury=0&adapt_q_470=0&adapt_q_480=0&adapt_q_570=0&adapt_q_580=0&adapt_q_vega56=0&adapt_q_vega64=0&adapt_q_5700xt=0&adapt_q_vii=0&adapt_q_1050Ti=0&adapt_q_10606=0&adapt_q_1070=0&adapt_q_1070Ti=0&adapt_q_1080=0&adapt_q_1080Ti=5&adapt_1080Ti=true&adapt_q_1660=0&adapt_q_1660Ti=0&adapt_q_2060=0&adapt_q_2070=0&adapt_q_2080=0&adapt_q_2080T
12:47:08 <sech1> i=0&eth=true&factor%5Beth_hr%5D=247.50&factor%5Beth_p%5D=950.00&zh=true&factor%5Bzh_hr%5D=430.00&factor%5Bzh_p%5D=1000.00&cnh=true&factor%5Bcnh_hr%5D=5300.00&factor%5Bcnh_p%5D=750.00&cng=true&factor%5Bcng_hr%5D=11500.00&factor%5Bcng_p%5D=950.00&cnr=true&factor%5Bcnr_hr%5D=3750.00&factor%5Bcnr_p%5D=800.00&cnf=true&factor%5Bcnf_hr%5D=8650.00&factor%5Bcnf_p%5D=750.00&eqa=true&factor%5Beqa_hr%5D=1700.00&factor%5Beqa_p%5D=1000.00&cc=true&
12:47:09 <sech1> factor%5Bcc_hr%5D=38.50&factor%5Bcc_p%5D=950.00&cr29=true&factor%5Bcr29_hr%5D=43.50&factor%5Bcr29_p%5D=950.00&cm29=true&factor%5Bcm29_hr%5D=23.50&factor%5Bcm29_p%5D=950.00&ct31=true&factor%5Bct31_hr%5D=7.25&factor%5Bct31_p%5D=950.00&eqb=true&factor%5Beqb_hr%5D=267.50&factor%5Beqb_p%5D=950.00&rmx=true&factor%5Brmx_hr%5D=5150.00&factor%5Brmx_p%5D=800.00&ns=true&factor%5Bns_hr%5D=9500.00&factor%5Bns_p%5D=950.00&tt10=true&factor%5Btt10_h
12:47:14 <sech1> r%5D=247.50&factor%5Btt10_p%5D=1000.00&x16r=true&factor%5Bx16r_hr%5D=155.00&factor%5Bx16r_p%5D=950.00&phi2=true&factor%5Bphi2_hr%5D=46.00&factor%5Bphi2_p%5D=1000.00&eqz=true&factor%5Beqz_hr%5D=245.00&factor%5Beqz_p%5D=950.00&zlh=true&factor%5Bzlh_hr%5D=252.50&factor%5Bzlh_p%5D=1000.00&ppw=true&factor%5Bppw_hr%5D=91.00&factor%5Bppw_p%5D=1000.00&x25x=true&factor%5Bx25x_hr%5D=34.50&factor%5Bx25x_p%5D=950.00&mtp=true&factor%5Bmtp_hr%5D=1
12:47:21 <sech1> 8.00&factor%5Bmtp_p%5D=950.00&lrev3=true&factor%5Blrev3_hr%5D=385.00&factor%5Blrev3_p%5D=950.00&factor%5Bcost%5D=0.1&sort=Profitability24&volume=0&revenue=24h&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=binance&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=bitfinex&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=bittrex&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=hitbtc&factor%5Bexchanges%5D%5B%5D=poloniex&dataset=Main&commit=Calculate
12:48:38 <sech1> damn, working link for 5x1080 Ti rig: https://tinyurl.com/wrr8565
13:15:53 <hyc> t GPUs on which coin/algo? RandomX/XMR? looks like -$1.51 right now, loss, not profit
13:15:59 <hyc> sech1?
13:16:26 <sech1> GPUs? Across all algos, this is whattomine data
13:16:44 <hyc> I see, best is zcoin
13:16:56 <hyc> $1.59
13:17:41 <sech1> So if you're a hypothetical farm owner and just got 100 kW available power, the most efficient would be to fill it with Ryzens :D
13:19:44 <sech1> So I guess network hashrate will keep growing slowly as more farm owners realize this
13:22:43 <sech1> to be fair, 5x1080 Ti rig is much cheaper than 8xRyzen 3900X
13:24:24 <hyc> what about XX Ryzen 3600X instead?
13:24:35 <hyc> or does the mobo+PS cost offset CPU price
13:33:16 <sech1> R5 3600 is actually more than 2 times cheaper and doesn't require top low-latency RAM
13:34:34 <sech1> yes, 2x Ryzen 3600 rig will be 10% cheaper than 1x Ryzen 3900X rig
13:34:58 <sech1> and it can probably give the same hashrate, but with worse power efficiency and it takes more space
13:38:32 <hyc> ah I thought it had equal or better power eff
13:38:42 <hyc> but yes, taking up more space would be a downside
14:05:08 <SR71_miner> ROI is bad, for the 90KH/s -> 1KW you need approx 7x 3900X systems that is an huge invest --> ~5250$ with very cheap Hardware
14:05:29 <SR71_miner> .c 5250/4.72
14:06:26 <SR71_miner> >3 years and with declining rewards
14:06:28 <SR71_miner> .rip
14:06:30 <sech1> 3 years ROI and it's good
14:06:50 <sech1> no more big farms, only small miners who bought hardware for other purposes
14:08:03 <SR71_miner> yes, that is the last way which makes sense
14:09:12 <SR71_miner> hopefully there are enough such miners out there to keep the hashrate high
14:10:38 <SR71_miner> I don't have a good feeling for the future if the xmr price will not skyrocket soon
14:11:24 <SR71_miner> cause decreasing block rewards
16:39:31 <cohcho> "sech1> What potato PCs does it run on?" You would be surprised if knew what potato is being used for mining.
20:06:08 <tevador> lol, I think Intel has a big stack of exploits, but is only revealing one at a time to stay under the radar
20:34:34 <cjd> heh, more like the Intel shortsellers