15:16:41 <sech1> https://www.cryptoknowmics.com/news/monero-is-facing-a-centralization-issue-randomx-serving-no-purpose and lots of similar articles on crypto news sites
15:16:48 <sech1> it all started ever since https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/f1llms/2_mining_pools_have_consistently_had_60_combined/ was posted
15:16:59 <sech1> it looks like a coordinated campaign
15:18:59 <sech1> https://www.crypto-news-flash.com/two-monero-mining-pools-occupy-59-percent-of-the-xmr-network-hashrate/
15:19:05 <sech1> https://atozmarkets.com/news/monero-facing-centralized-mining-problem/
15:20:05 <sech1> https://bitcoinist.com/does-monero-have-a-serious-centralized-mining-problem/
15:20:25 <sech1> and even https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224819.0 from newbie account
15:37:03 <Inge-> sech1: you saw the nazi-smearing post on reddit too the other day?
15:37:18 <sech1> probably not
15:37:39 <sech1> I'm really busy with adding AMD Navi support
15:54:38 <asymptotically> >
15:54:39 <asymptotically> With a smaller mining pool, you get smaller payouts because smaller pools find less block rewards due to smaller hash rate
15:54:41 <asymptotically> hmm
15:55:04 <sech1> Inge- is that why many FUK shills are reddit-wide banned now?
15:55:38 <sech1> Pick1eMorty AbleTest PrizeEconomy ChilieWillie -TANJIRO- - all banned, maybe there are some more
15:55:47 <asymptotically> i don't think they get banned for what they post, as annoying as they are i don't think it breaks any rules. probably just for creating sockpuppet accounts and engaging in vote manipulation
16:00:07 <moneromooo> I really don't get that ban thing. People act like they have a right to spew anywhere they like. It's not like you're banned from everywhere, they can still pew in *their* place.
16:00:24 <moneromooo> If it was me, I'd deal large helpings of ban.
16:00:49 <moneromooo> Free speech does not mean obligation to listen.
16:01:11 <moneromooo> If you like freedom, you'll deal with the freedom of others to drop you from their home.
16:32:15 <tevador> nothing has changed about the quality of crypto journalism
16:47:20 <gingeropolous> indeed
18:00:16 <tevador> supportxmr and minexmr really need to increase their fees, though
20:09:34 <Inge-> sech1: it was pretty bad. and combined with what you are talking about here, it seems like there is an ongoing campaign against xmr.
20:12:12 <hyc> that's nothing new
20:13:38 <Inge-> probably not
20:13:55 <Inge-> tevador: so more people move over to other pools?
20:14:52 <moneromooo> I think I made a patch years ago to have the pool fee start going up if the pool hash rate goes over 40% or so.
20:15:28 <kinghat> thats... an interesting idea.
20:15:50 <Inge-> kind of nice - pool operator can help the ecosystem, without taking too much of an economic hit
20:17:01 <binaryFate> sounds cool we should encourage it
20:17:48 <moneromooo> Found it: https://github.com/moneromooo/cryptonote-universal-pool/commit/5e31901ab3ff1d18eed478b8818577c9093c91d6
20:18:03 <moneromooo> Not porting it to anything though. Feel free to use.
20:25:37 <tevador> the fee needs to increase a lot earlier than at 40%
22:33:55 <kinghat> wonder what the unintended consequences would be 🤷‍♂️
22:59:37 <needmonero90> Idea: Scale the pool fee with the percent of the network, so a smaller pool basically always is slightly more profitable than a larger pool
23:00:13 <needmonero90> the obvious issue is people making a fixed-fee pool, but if it was adhered to by most operators, that would be neat to watch
23:03:09 <kinghat> i dont think anything that operates on good faith will stand the test of time. of course there are outliers.