01:36:21 total miners 31546 13:59:35 Miners: 31450 22:08:23 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/f3pkq4/privacy_for_everyone_tari_labs/fhlalrk 22:10:52 The PoW hash is irrelevant (barring unusual cases). 22:11:55 what's the discussion about? 22:12:02 I'd like to see what they do too. Also the lightning network for monero they said they'd work on. I've not seen any of that either. Nor of the atomic swaps they also talked about. 22:12:27 Whether merged mining is someho prevented by randomx. 22:13:17 well, there is one difficulty with using user-supplied dataset seeds 22:13:36 how to prevent miners from using the same seed all the time and optimize an asic for it 22:13:52 Was a solution not found a couple months back ? 22:13:55 user-supplied dataset seed is needed for merged mining 22:14:07 yes, solution is simple 22:14:27 Guess we'll only know for sure once they've done it :D 22:14:40 don't allow to use the same seed after N blocks from the first time it was used 22:15:11 moneromooo: I think they only started work on the base layer yet. But they are hiring actively so maybe we’ll see Monero lighting network and atomic swaps. 22:15:28 But I guess still a few years away. 22:16:00 AIUI, they have no idea how to do atomic swaps. They hope MRL will work it out :) 22:16:14 That’s also possible :D 22:16:26 But I don’t know if they hired mathematicians yet. 22:17:25 But apparently they have funds so let’s see. 22:17:54 I *think* they did claim the LN work was going to be early. But thinking about it now, I might have misread, it might be LN for bitcoin for early work, and then the "for monero" hype being thrown to the public. I dunno. 22:21:22 yeah afaik no one knows how to do atomic swaps, the atoc fellow was doing some research on it, not sure if he's still doing that 22:22:35 or rather, part of how to do a swap is unknown https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/63 needs a preimage equality proof