07:23:51 <Inge-> spot price buying of cheap electro certain parts of the day?
08:37:32 <xmrmatterbridge> <cankerwort> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/03/04/el_capitan_two_exaflops_supercomputer/
08:37:54 <xmrmatterbridge> <cankerwort> That's a lot of hashpower
16:49:20 <hyc> a lot of US electric companies have peak vs off-peak rates, probably other parts of the world too
16:49:54 <hyc> if you could zoom in on that graph in UTC you could probably identify what timezone they're operating in
16:51:28 <hyc> huh. El Capitan will only cost $600M? that's quite a bargain compared to supercomputer projects ofthe past
16:53:00 <hyc> Fairly sure this thing will never have more than 12 hours of idle time any given week
16:53:29 <UkoeHB_> wtf they need such a big machine to "simulate and study America's stockpile of nuclear weapons" for?
16:53:43 <UkoeHB_> most efficient way to devastate the planet??
16:57:16 <hyc> this has always been the number one driver of supercomputer development
16:58:10 <hyc> and it's a good trade, compared to blowing up islands in the middle of the Pacific ocean
16:59:36 <UkoeHB_> I mean, is it really worth that much money though.. Once you start shooting off nukes it hardly matters whether they are killing 10k people or 100k people at a time.
17:00:03 <asymptotically> next konferenco can be at bikini atoll :D
17:02:25 <hyc> this is pure research, and the results will not be strictly weapons-oriented. it just goes to show you how little is actually understood about high enrgy physics
17:02:37 <hyc> and how much still needs to be learned
17:03:00 <hyc> if we ever want fusion-based energy for civilian use, that learning comes from work like this
17:03:44 <hyc> it's not just about simulating explosions
17:04:13 <hyc> it's about simulating the physical properties of all the materials used to build these devices, and how they degrade over time due to exposure
17:05:49 <UkoeHB_> that does make sense
17:06:04 <hyc> their main goal might be how to build a more reliable bomb. but it all adds to knowledge of materials science, and how we safely harness this energy
17:11:23 <kinghat> speaking of fusion did you read this recent thingy? https://newatlas.com/energy/hb11-hydrogen-boron-fusion-clean-energy/
17:12:15 <kinghat> btw, what do they do with decommissioned super pooters? does the hardware end up on ebay or?
17:53:10 <hyc> sometimes universities pick them up, dunno
20:45:27 <gingeropolous> which ones getting decommissioned?
20:47:55 <gingeropolous> https://www.networkworld.com/article/3408176/the-titan-supercomputer-is-being-decommissioned-a-costly-time-consuming-project.html
20:47:58 <gingeropolous> damn, missed that one
21:51:35 <camthegeek> ever visit one of those .. machines in person? :P
22:58:26 <hyc> I've worked with a couple, yes. not much to see, rows of cabinets.