17:02:50 decent article on monitoring mining pools https://medium.com/mit-media-lab-digital-currency-initiative/who-is-monitoring-mining-pools-65de79b90710 17:03:14 we should do something similar - analyze the jobs being issued from the major monero pools 17:03:49 make sure the block hashes their jobs are based on correspond to the current chain tip 17:07:09 it sounds like the level of monitoring they're aiming for could defeat dandelion tho 17:22:35 Draft blog post for Triptych: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/dbcc80a0/ 17:22:39 Comments/suggestions welcome 17:25:01 concise, looks good 17:25:24 did we get any shiny logo artwork? :P 17:27:34 A post on reddit from gingeropolous: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/ido8q3/triptych_needs_a_logo/ 17:27:35 [REDDIT] triptych needs a logo (self.Monero) | 21 points (88.0%) | 14 comments | Posted by gingeropolous | Created at 2020-08-21 - 02:24:02 17:27:39 good bot 17:27:59 I vote for https://i.imgur.com/fpfhjQc.png 17:29:00 lol 17:29:19 superimposed on a brick wall, looking like street art/tagging, could be cool 17:30:21 Perhaps something more hipster: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3aINwk5E/logo-1598030984409.png 17:30:48 The pennyfarthing shows a big ring and a small ring 17:34:46 a bit more classy, definitely 17:35:30 but this is usually what I would envision for the word http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/medieval-triptych-15742101.jpg 17:36:11 this one even has a bunch of rings ;) https://mybyzantine.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/imgp5108.jpg 17:36:34 and is, funnily enough, Byzantine 17:38:57 replace the religious portraiture with ... math formulas or something https://i.pinimg.com/originals/76/fe/bd/76febd8ad6483679d63eac4dff1bac97.jpg 17:52:36 hyc monitoring mining pools is even easier with RandomX because each pool job must have block height 17:53:30 good point 18:30:40 sarang: Good post 18:30:47 I wonder if we can slightly modify this statement though -> 'While there are currently no formal plans to deploy Triptych as part of the 18:30:47 Monero protocol' 18:31:05 How so? 18:31:08 There are no such plans 18:31:09 Perhaps something like 'we're still investigating the feasibility' 18:31:15 That would also be accurate 18:31:24 I could go into details on current limitations, if desired 18:31:49 I mean, there are also no formal plans _not_ to deploy it 18:31:50 shrug 18:32:42 Hopefully the use of careful but accurate terminology will help dispel this nonsense about zero-knowledge proving systems and ring signatures 18:33:03 Triptych is a linkable ring signature built using a zero-knowledge proving system 18:33:26 My point is basically that 'no formal plans' can be interpreted as a definite no, which seems a bit negative 18:33:41 Good point 18:33:50 I think your modification helps to clarify, and is still accurate 18:34:08 Should I mention anything in the post about Arcturus? 18:34:15 Arcturus and Triptych have similarities 18:38:53 "While we are still investigating technical details required for a future deployment of Triptych into the Monero protocol, it is very exciting to see the paper accepted for publication!" 18:38:55 ^ dEBRUYNE 18:39:33 Multisig is still under consideration, since it's more complex with Triptych/Arcturus/RCT3 than it is in CLSAG/MLSAG 18:44:25 I really hope nobody uses the proof-of-concept code in production without review :/ 19:14:29 sarang: Yep that looks good 19:14:41 Not sure about mentioning Arcturus 19:14:45 Nor am I 19:15:01 The benefit probably does not outweigh the potential for confusion 19:15:03 It has the same cryptographic foundation as Triptych, but the security model is different 19:15:09 as are the hardness assumptions 19:15:12 fair enough