00:14:09 <TheCharlatan> jwinterm yes, I even wrote some bitcoin multisig hardware wallet code.
01:04:24 <dgoddard> IMO seems reasonable to implement Tryptich, and let Arturus marinade a while with further research and review from the wider community and/or funded audits
01:26:17 <sgp_> I don't see using Arcturus then unless there are no more crypto breakthroughs for like 5+ years
01:26:47 <sgp_> maybe that's okay, I just feel like something is missing since I guess I don't fully understand the scope of what arctutus would look like
01:32:15 <nioc> Arcturus has the best name so I would go with it
12:49:39 <sarang> Think the transaction increases are organic, or spam attack?
12:50:23 <sarang> If spam, the attacker later publishes a list of transactions with proof, and then uses the data to reduce effective ring size
12:52:54 <Barbelo[m]> <sarang "Think the transaction increases "> if it is an attack the attacker is playing the long game making it look like organic log growth. fairly certain its organic
12:54:12 <Barbelo[m]> im noticing normal people waking up to privacy shit. several of them have come to me asking for basic tips about vpns and general password management
12:54:59 <Navion250> Why are you here? For the tech? Then you should be off at Zcash instead of trying to con newbies into a coin that doesn't work.
12:55:01 <Navion250> For the money? If you put your money in BTC or ETH you would have been better off.
12:55:04 <Navion250> For the magical crypto friends? Monero leadership laughs from loosers like that. Find yourself more healthy realationships that don't steal your money.
12:55:55 <Barbelo[m]> on bisq i noticed its difficult to purchase small amounts of monero now. looks like the small amounts get purchased up quickly.
15:31:35 <dEBRUYNE> sarang: When do you intend to make a pull request for the Bulletproofs+ blog post btw?
17:30:48 <ErCiccione[m]> dEBRUYNE: Already a blog post? Wouldn't be better to wait for the audit first?
17:31:01 <ErCiccione[m]> unless the point of the blog post is to draw attention to the code :)
17:32:23 <nioc> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/197
17:32:38 <nioc> BP+ audit proposal ^^
17:37:32 <ErCiccione[m]> Cool. Where they contacted by somebody or it's their own initiative?
17:39:07 <nioc> I believe they originally were going to do the BP+ code but agreed to do the audit after sarang wrote the code
17:39:18 <nioc> there has been recent communication
17:40:23 <nioc> *agreed to have sarang write the code and they would do the audit
17:41:38 <ErCiccione[m]> got it
18:09:49 <sarang> Note that I have not been in contact with those researchers for any formal audit planning
18:11:41 <sarang> However, the scope of the audit seems quite extensive as it appears on their proposal
18:27:34 <sgp_> What Bulletproofs+ logo should we choose?
18:27:54 <sgp_> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/kfop0a/wanted_bulletproofs_logo/
18:28:46 <sgp_> I think I like this one best https://ibb.co/SxDB67H
18:31:33 <sgp_> Alternative https://i.ibb.co/TYRQyp8/bulletproofsplus-v3.jpg
18:35:32 <sgp_> feedback from my brothers: anhdres's is a better design, but the other option is better for building Monero's brand
18:38:08 <jwinterm> I like the vest one
18:38:13 <jwinterm> whoever's that is
18:38:22 <jwinterm> but I am notorious for having bad taste
18:39:02 <anhdres> for what's worth, I assumed its use case would be most times alongside Monero's logo. Kind of like all those little EU and compliance logos you see on every hardware box haha
18:39:15 <anhdres> USB, HDMI, etc
18:39:58 <anhdres> and following the overall aspect ratio of CLSAG's logo
18:41:04 <dEBRUYNE> ErCiccione[m]: If we think the audit has a reasonable chance of successful completion, I don't deem it inappropriate to already put the blog out
18:41:16 <dEBRUYNE> It would also allow potential donors to inform themselves better
18:46:13 <sgp_> anhdres: I see your point, if they are together then I think I agree
18:46:42 <sgp_> "Monero, now with bulletproofs+"
21:07:54 <sarang> I will hold off on a blag PR until/unless there's agreement on its suitability, a graphic, etc.
21:10:47 <needmoney90> the vest is fancy, I like it
21:11:09 <needmoney90> the bullets logo looks great, but its not as compressible
21:11:31 <needmoney90> the vest logo can do a lot with very few pixels, which I like
21:39:48 <sarang> Note: updated the blag post draft to acknowledge MAGIC (the nonprofit organization who coordinated the fundraising) and donors; same link
21:41:24 <sarang> Ought the blag post include a link to the CCS proposal for the audit? AFAIK no particular decisions have been made about that (certainly not by me, since it is not my call)
21:49:53 <dEBRUYNE> I'd not include it personally, as it is a separate decision that has to be made
21:50:09 <dEBRUYNE> We have to review the proposal first and the community may be interested in pursuing a second audit next to this one
21:53:34 <sarang> Fair enough
21:53:52 <sarang> Anyway, post is ready if/when folks think it should be posted
21:57:11 <dEBRUYNE> If anyone is opposed, please make your voice be heard
22:05:46 <sarang> Others are free to PR that gist if they choose
22:05:48 <sarang> I don't really care
22:05:56 <sarang> As long as it isn't changed