00:18:22 <Bill48105> i see the random nick troll is back again eh
00:40:33 <nioc> yes watch or read, breaking monero was produced by...........monero
00:42:01 <knowledgewizard4> what is the point of trolling a little coin village
00:42:09 <knowledgewizard4> i guess every village needs its idiot
01:27:08 <WillSellBody4Xmr> so it seems to me that FUK's claims are that monero isn't anonymous enough, his solution is just to fork monero and increase ring size to 25, therefore, instead of this ridiculous smear campaign, shouldn't he have just supported tryptch dev?
01:28:15 <rupee[m]> maybe FUK is govt psyops
01:28:48 <hyc> could be a hired gun. he killed sumo & ryo already
01:29:18 <WillSellBody4Xmr> oh I was under the impression he was behind ryo, am I wrong?
01:29:41 <hyc> he recently announced ryo is dead
01:29:49 <WillSellBody4Xmr> lol
01:30:04 <hyc> https://old.reddit.com/r/ryocurrency/comments/ljwjf2/i_dont_really_care_about_your_money_but_who/
01:31:12 <hyc> all the more entertaining because his post says "it ended last month" and a month before that time, is this post claiming ryo is alive and well https://old.reddit.com/r/ryocurrency/comments/kwmnqd/important_update_for_our_community_on_current_ryo/
01:31:32 <hyc> so yeah, lying to his users...
01:34:12 <hyc> and spending all of their dev fund on attacking monero instead of, you know, developing anything useful for his own project
01:36:01 <rupee[m]> seems like he's just killing off monero's competitors. haha
01:36:18 <rupee[m]> generous to call those competitors
01:36:23 <hyc> lol
01:36:39 <hyc> well, he *has* joined the zcash community now, so it's all working out well so far
01:38:07 <hyc> zcash was already dying before he joined them, but maybe he'll speed that up
02:41:51 <swrangsar> how do i make monero-wallet-cli use a remote public node instead of having to run monerod?
02:42:34 <swrangsar> have a wallet made in cake wallet (android). now how do i use this wallet with monero-wallet-cli?
02:50:03 <ndorf> swrangsar: 1) monero-wallet-cli --daemon-address node.moneroworld.com:18089 (or whatever)
02:50:50 <ndorf> 2) you need the mnemonic seed from the cake wallet, then: monero-wallet-cli --restore-from-seed
02:51:07 <Whyvn> is there a way to use a gpg file to autfofill the password with the monero-wallet-cli?
02:52:02 <swrangsar> thanks. new user here
02:54:25 <ndorf> Whyvn: you would probably have to write your own script around that, but the --password-file option should help.
02:54:48 <ndorf> Whyvn: there's also the --password option, but i wouldn't recommend that one, as your password will be visible in `ps` and friends.
02:55:14 <Whyvn> ndorf: thanks, ill look into --password-file
02:55:19 <ndorf> swrangsar: no problem, and welcome
02:55:57 <floam412> hey I'm on windows and having trouble starting my monerod in cli... when I type 'start monerod' it runs for like a second and then shuts down... any tips?
02:57:40 <floam412>  Failed to bind IPv4 (set to required)
02:58:05 <ndorf> floam412: i'm not too familiar with Windows, but that error usually occurs when monerod is already running.
02:58:05 <Quotes> fuck windows, use linux!
02:58:22 <floam412> lolol
02:58:24 <ndorf> ...
02:58:29 <ndorf> sorry about that
02:58:31 <floam412> fucking quotes
02:58:34 <floam412> hahah
02:58:40 <floam412> whatta jagoff
02:58:47 <ndorf> don't mind him, he's drunk.
03:00:20 <nioc> floam412: do you still have your GUI daemon running in the background?
03:00:29 <floam412> ahh, that's probably what it is
03:00:39 <nioc> I know you :)
03:04:31 <knowledgewizard4> can you buy software / games with monero?  i'm looking at websites and i have no idea what is legit
03:04:41 <knowledgewizard4> same question for music
03:09:17 <vp11> I've heard about keys4coins but never used it myself
03:10:03 <vp11> knowledgewizard4 make sure you check the merchants section on the project's website: https://www.getmonero.org/community/merchants/
03:11:12 <knowledgewizard4> ah nice, thanks
03:18:09 <floam412> lol :p
03:18:19 <floam412> nioc I need a fucking vacay
03:19:46 <floam412> so another n00b Q... I can't find my wallet.  I know the path to it is in my Monero folder, but idk how to pull it up through the cli commands
03:25:32 <ndorf> monero-wallet-cli --wallet "c:\full\path\to\my_wallet_name"
03:28:58 <floam412> error: key file not found. failed to open wallet
03:29:38 <floam412> like I copied the address to the file and pasted it after the --wallet command
03:29:38 <ndorf> sounds like wrong path/filename.
03:29:44 <floam412> weird
03:29:52 <ndorf> is there a my_wallet_name.keys file in the same directory?
03:29:54 <ndorf> there definitely should be
03:30:00 <floam412> yeah there is
03:30:04 <floam412> that's the weird part
03:30:11 <ndorf> hrm well
03:30:21 <ndorf> how about two commands
03:30:27 <floam412> wallet_name and wallet_name.keys
03:30:32 <ndorf> first, cd "c:\full\path\to"
03:30:45 <ndorf> then, monero-wallet-cli --wallet wallet_name
03:38:00 <Whyvn> is there a way to close monero-wallet-cli automatically when your timeout and need to enter a password? I would rather exit it completly back to terminal than wait for password to be entered to unlock
03:38:31 <floam412> I actually think it has something to do with --generate-with-keys ... I feel like I'm getting closer with that
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05:14:20 <Bill48105> oh Sigyn isn't here anymore
06:00:37 <bxarkzmbyv> Dear fireice_uk. I must strongly object to you reporting our great Monro community members to Freenode for racism AND getting people K-lined as a result! i.imgur.com/R0T9GGY.png THEY ARE NOT NEO-NAZI!!! THEY ARE JUST SAYING NEO-NAZI THINGS!! i.imgur.com/JYu44As.png I know this because they have been nice to me and made me their Magical Crypto Friend! If you don't cease immediately I shall throw another tantrum
06:00:37 <bxarkzmbyv> !
06:00:37 <bxarkzmbyv> Monero Community Member PS. You are interrupting my session of masturbation to The Man in the High Castle.
06:49:42 <InvestmentOracle> Anybody else here have the ledger wallet? Currently encountering a problem where I rebuilded my wallet and the wallet blocks remaining is not changing after a very long time.
06:49:59 <InvestmentOracle> I am not sharing my private view key
07:21:55 <dEBRUYNE> The issue is probably not exporting your private view key
07:21:59 <dEBRUYNE> ^ InvestmentOracle
07:25:14 <InvestmentOracle> I have since done so. Why is exporting your private view key such a requirement?
07:25:22 <InvestmentOracle> It's only stored in ram, so ostensibly it's fine
07:28:42 <dEBRUYNE> Because it speeds up the wallet sync substantially
07:28:48 <dEBRUYNE> Device is to weak to do it on its own imo
07:33:31 <InvestmentOracle> what about the trezor wallets/nano x
07:45:34 <Inge-> If you don't share the keys, then all the blocks must be handled by the very low power processing power of the HW wallet.
07:45:46 <Inge-> and neither of those three are very strong ...
08:12:03 <dEBRUYNE> InvestmentOracle: Same
08:38:16 <DisBotXMR3> <KoKo> Hi
11:15:09 <Inge-> interesting that his lurking irc client is allowed to stay on the network
11:15:21 * Inge- looks at lnvestanto
11:15:54 <moneromooo> This one doesn't spam.
12:07:47 <hyc> still, it's probably monitoring and giving feedback on the success of his spam scripts
12:10:58 <moneromooo> lol, poor sod...
12:11:15 <moneromooo> I don't really care one way or another fwiw
13:47:35 <dfiqlgjca> FUK has bееn intеnsеly hostilе to Monеro for ovеr 4 yеars. Making minеrs for Monеro, making a pool for Monеro, making codе that Monеro copiеd, not using bugs to stеal millions from еxchangеs. Wow. Such grеat hostility.
16:28:22 <Inge-> COMIT is usavle on testnet now?
16:28:27 <Inge-> usable*
16:32:32 <sech1> Stagenet
17:16:35 <Inge-> anyone know if you as an xmr party to COMIT can check the provenance of the offered BTC before committing your xmr to the trade
17:21:19 <hyc> according to this https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/ly62tk/let_there_be_swaps_public_xmrbtc_atomic_swap_demo/
17:21:27 <hyc> the BTC moves first
17:21:49 <hyc> so it should be possible for the buyer to tell you about the BTC txn, and then you can lookup the outputs in play
17:27:34 <sech1> IIRC COMIT will provide BTC liquidity, they will work differently from Farcaster
17:27:42 <sech1> so they promise "clean" BTC from exchanges
17:29:08 <hyc> so they're needed as a trusted 3rd party? that seems ... weak
17:37:33 <sech1> I'm not sure how exactly they'll work, need to rewatch the youtube interview. I imagine you'll be able to buy BTC from them or other sellers, they'll just provide liquidity
18:40:38 <omega> Does anybody know how to set this prometheus exporter for monerod in grafana? https://github.com/ExcitableAardvark/monerod_exporter
18:44:26 <rupee[m]> omega: I'm out of my depth here, but just a guess that maybe this is helpful? I found in izamenace's repo
18:44:26 <rupee[m]> https://github.com/lalanza808/docker-monero-node/blob/7b371ad9c51e8ac426fe634a3106b7681c61a0d2/files/grafana/prometheus.yaml
18:44:26 <rupee[m]> https://github.com/lalanza808/docker-monero-node/blob/7b371ad9c51e8ac426fe634a3106b7681c61a0d2/files/prometheus/prometheus.yml
19:10:14 <omega> thank you. indeed, it is helpful. have fun. remove face mask
19:11:14 <rupee[m]> i wear the face mask for privacy reason :-P
19:18:45 <as2333> rupee[m], you're fully tracked, mask or no mask
19:20:23 <rupee[m]> but they'll never know if I'm smiling or not!
19:21:19 <as2333> heh
19:21:21 <hlophlop2> I sent monero to my local wallet , the transaction is shown but the balance is still 0. I'm reading right now about the 10 confirmations thingy. Do I need to keep my local wallet connected until everything is done or can I just launch it tomorrow and it'll be good ?
19:22:47 <as2333> hlophlop2, you don't need to check - the process is handled by 'the network'
19:23:00 <sech1> You need to be sure your wallet is synced with the network
19:23:14 <sech1> It won't show your transaction if it's not synced past the block when it was mined
19:24:57 <hlophlop2> sorry , I meant : can I shut down my computer while there's a transaction going on ?
19:25:03 <ndorf> yes, absolutely
19:25:20 <hlophlop2> thank you
19:25:22 <ndorf> just make sure to cleanly exit before shutting down
19:25:46 <ndorf> (probably won't be an issue, but just to be on the safe side and avoid corrupting any files)
19:31:48 <moneromooo> Yes, I pinged an op so I can register it.
19:31:53 <moneromooo> Gah. Sorry.
19:33:54 <calatalee> Where can I buy monero without huge fees and can buy directly to my desktop wallet?
19:35:11 <moneromooo> Whoooosh
20:02:14 <charolastra> it astoundes me how people with suh short attention span (64 in that case) can funtion
20:03:04 <gingeropolous> they dont need TO function. They ARE function.
20:04:23 <charolastra> some deep shit right there
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20:33:30 <Bill48105> zbot that's like bot with an cool international accent :D
20:35:31 <apotheon> charolastra: I think that was a drive-by criticism rather than an honest question.
20:35:55 <charolastra> ooooh, the spammer ...
20:36:07 <apotheon> charolastra: . . . and may *literally* actually *be function* to some degree.
20:40:28 <charolastra> indeed
20:42:07 <apotheon> This is a cautionary tale about trying to achieve "immortality" by making a digital clone and killing off the original.
20:49:01 <DisBotXMR3> <itzblaze> anybody know if any atomic swaps are in develeopment
20:49:21 <kayabaNerve> A few solutions
20:50:06 <kayabaNerve> As in, multiple proof of concepts were developed, and then Farcaster was funded to develop an integratable suite for performing swaps
20:50:36 <kayabaNerve> Beyond that, COMIT is working on their OTC solution to run against a centralized server.
20:50:47 <apotheon> I guess, if I wanted to use a remote node for a less-private wallet application, I shouldn't point it at the node I have in a more-private wallet application.
20:51:05 <apotheon> Does that seem right?
20:51:40 <apotheon> I mean, if the less-private wallet application is running on a system that ends up having to be audited by the IRS (for instance), having it point at the more-private node would probably be bad.
21:05:43 <Inge-> ooops  https://academy.ivanontech.com/blog/defi-deep-dive-what-is-paid-network
21:07:35 <apotheon> . . . so this is a way to litigate with blockchains . . . ?
21:08:44 <apotheon> seems like missing the point
21:09:06 <apotheon> Then again, I'm not a public corporation, and from my point of view public corporations are generally all about "missing the point".
21:09:37 <Inge-> you'd think
21:09:39 <Inge-> but
21:09:43 <Inge-> https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1367919421168246785?s=19
21:10:22 <apotheon> yikes
22:09:21 <fibonacci> .balance
22:09:22 <Wallet> fibonacci: • Your balance is: 0 XMR
22:14:49 <dxrwzy9y[m]> Can we charge KYC politicians with digital terrorism and force them to go straight to jail and share cells with ISIS members? They're exactly at the same moral level as they are if you're asking me.
22:15:09 <ndorf> KYC? believe it or not, also jail
22:15:49 <dxrwzy9y[m]> KYC terrorism = ISIS terrorism (my opinion)
22:17:46 <ndorf> apotheon: not an expert, you'll want to confirm with someone else. but i'm pretty sure the wallet should not leak anything private sensitive to the daemon if you run the wallet with --untrusted-daemon flag
22:18:07 <ndorf> i think that's also the default if --daemon-address is anything other than localhost
22:19:16 <ndorf> even if you don't run with that flag, i don't think the daemon would *record* anything privacy-sensitive unless you're running at some high log level (higher than default)
23:01:56 <apotheon> ndorf: Sure, but if I have wallet A running off the blockchain for full-node wallet B, and wallet A hardware gets compromised somehow, that would mean that it would become known where I'm accessing the blockchain on wallet B -- because otherwise wallet A can't reach it when I'm using it.  Right?  What am I missing?
23:02:34 <apotheon> ndorf: Just knowing B exists at a particular location could be considered an issue in some cases.
23:02:47 <apotheon> (and might lead to physical compromise of B)