03:35:07 <gingeropolous> what the absolute fuck is this nonsense: "The only difference between Monero and bitcoin is Monero’s history is limited to the current holder of Monero. In other words, its surface area for discrimination is smaller, but what is a fraction of infinity? People can still find infinite reasons to discriminate against certain transactions and label them as tainted. The current spender can be discriminated against even if they are anonymous o
03:35:08 <gingeropolous> r specifically because they are anonymous. Monero coins can still be tainted by their owners. Anonymity can also be the basis for discrimination as we’ve seen by some exchanges refusing to service Monero trading."
03:35:12 <gingeropolous> https://medium.com/coinmonks/fungibility-of-bitcoin-66ce5803a150
03:35:17 <gingeropolous> i gotta stop reading this bitcoin stuff
03:43:57 <nioc> you just gotta believe
03:47:37 <ndorf> wow that is the biggest pile of BS posted to this channel in recent memory. and i'm including the FUK spam :P
06:30:12 <sxhkskit> twitter.com/hyc_symas/status/1203709575226183683
06:30:12 <sxhkskit> Last time I got an award like that was in a primary school football team. It had three stars too and said that I'm special :')
06:30:12 <sxhkskit> I just binned it though instead of showing it off to naive groupies. What kind of preson takes a group achievement award and presents it as a proof of their individual prowess anyway?
06:35:10 <Mochi101> Don't worry hyc, nobody here is questioning your individual prowess because of this spam.
06:36:45 <Bill48105> top kek
06:37:04 <Bill48105> get all sorts in here eh
06:37:27 <Bill48105> .pause
06:37:28 <Wallet> Bill48105: Bot is EMERGENCY
06:37:32 <Bill48105> .pause here ONLINE
06:37:32 <Wallet> Bill48105: zBot is now ONLINE for #monero@freenode
06:38:07 <Bill48105> i need to fix that since it was confirmed Wallet is exempt here from Sigyn no need to auto-pause upon join if it's here
06:39:06 <Bill48105> bet it's in the irc module though which i can't live reload without disconnecting all the irc platforms
06:39:28 <Mochi101> sad
06:41:16 <Bill48105> indeed
06:41:38 <Bill48105> guess i make the mod now & wait until next bot restart to activate it
06:42:02 <Bill48105> btw what up mochi besides ridiculing the n00b trolls
06:43:15 <Mochi101> .faucet
06:43:17 <Wallet> Mochi101: How​ many numbers in 0
06:43:20 <Mochi101> 1
06:43:21 <Wallet> Mochi101: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000008 XMR to Mochi101 [1e5201ca] Wait ≈23 hrs 53 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01213184
06:43:30 <Bill48105> tricky question eh lol
06:43:33 <Bill48105> .faucet
06:43:33 <Wallet> Bill48105: How many #'s are​ in 37
06:43:34 <Bill48105> 2
06:43:35 <Wallet> Bill48105: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000166 XMR to Bill48105 [5a6da1bf] Wait ≈1 day 29 sec before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01211524
06:43:48 <Bill48105> dayum bot loves me more :D
06:44:04 <Mochi101> jeese
06:45:30 <Mochi101> I was counting on the bot tip to be able to feed my cute little baby kitten today too.
06:45:37 <Mochi101> I guess it will have to starve.
06:45:52 <Bill48105> .tip Mochi101 (0.0000166/2)
06:45:53 <Wallet> Bill48105: Oops: 0.0000083 - invalid amount (must be 0.00001 or more)
06:45:55 <Bill48105> rekt
06:46:12 <Bill48105> .tip Mochi101 0.00001
06:46:12 <Wallet> Bill48105 tipped 0.00001 XMR to Mochi101 [6e3b3041]
06:46:13 <Mochi101> I'm kidding Bill48105 ;)
06:46:17 <Mochi101> jeese
06:46:18 <Bill48105> sure you are
06:46:24 <Mochi101> thanks though
06:46:34 <Bill48105> yup np every chance i get to test the bot :D
06:47:10 <Bill48105> i should be finishing swap
06:47:27 <Mochi101> I'm a bit surprised that you're allowed to have that bot in here.
06:47:38 <Bill48105> sweet talked my way in :D
06:47:46 <Mochi101> nice :)
06:47:49 <Bill48105> only took like 4 years lol
06:47:55 <Mochi101> hahaha
06:48:36 <Bill48105> ok maybe not. more like 2 years that's how ling monero has been supported but i had inquired about it before adding monero
06:49:03 <Mochi101> I see
06:50:17 <Bill48105> here in main probably isn't ideal especially with all the bridges but luckily no one goes wild with bot use in here to annoy too many
06:51:12 <Bill48105> bot supports output redirection so technically it could be in here & redirect output to say #monero-bots or whatever which is a common setup on discord
11:10:57 <emsother[m]> \> monero is mined on CPUs which makes it feasible for everyone!
11:10:57 <emsother[m]> Your CPU doesn't support hardware AES. Don't expect high hashrates.
11:11:11 <emsother[m]>  * > monero is mined on CPUs which makes it feasible for everyone!
11:11:11 <emsother[m]> Your CPU doesn't support hardware AES. Don't expect high hashrates.
11:11:39 <emsother[m]> i wonder how you guys see my messages from your irc clients
11:11:48 <emsother[m]> are they formatted weirdly?
11:12:04 <moneromooo> You likely edited them because they appeared twice.
11:12:31 <moneromooo> Looks like: \> monero   and   * > monero   for the second one. Totally legible.
11:13:18 <emsother[m]> small price for a good protocol with bridging
11:13:32 <emsother[m]> do you have encryption on your irc thing?
11:14:45 <moneromooo> You can use SSL to freenode, optionally.
11:15:35 <moneromooo> I don't know whether the matrix relay does, but since channels are public, it doesn't matter much (except as a way to prevent your ISP from snooping, which is always a plus).
11:21:08 <emsother[m]> anyway, i guess with no AES mining monero is not worth it
11:21:52 <emsother[m]> i got like, 400H/s
11:37:16 <Mochi101> It's worth 400H/s
12:17:42 <emsother[m]> does your mining cover the electricity costs?
12:18:14 <emsother[m]> cause in my case it clearly doesn't
12:48:44 <knowledgewizard[> if you start a business, you can deduct energy costs
12:49:00 <knowledgewizard[> its part of COGS (costs of goods solds)
12:49:20 <knowledgewizard[> it won't get you 100% free energy, but it will get you a big chunk of it free, not quite half, but still a good chunk
12:49:59 <knowledgewizard[> you can also deduct the costs of buying mining equipment, so if you buy a $5k epyc, it now costs say, about $3-4k
12:50:19 <knowledgewizard[> just make sure while you're installing, you don't cough lol
12:50:19 <suicidalmoron> does anyone know if there is a darkweb related chan on here?
12:50:34 <snootycat> ?
12:51:22 <knowledgewizard[> the other cool thing is, if you end up mining at a loss, you can report the loss and get some of it reimbursed
12:52:06 <knowledgewizard[> i've been looking into it, so this is just from research, feel free to correct me or dispute, but i believe im correct
12:52:28 <moneromooo> Oh. Mine Monero, and get paid for it ? :o
12:52:38 <emsother[m]> is this specific to your country?
12:53:22 <snootycat> *some* reimbursed. Pivotal word. You'd still be operating at a loss, according to this statement.
12:54:15 <moneromooo> Ah, right, because monero is still valued > 0. Good point
12:54:19 <emsother[m]> so, a CPU with AES is mandatory, right?
12:54:28 <moneromooo> In practice, it seems so.
12:55:27 <snootycat> having some of your losses reimbursed doesn't sound like a balanced equation, financially.
13:06:41 <knowledgewizard[> emsother: it's a USA policy, but I bet other countries have it
13:07:07 <knowledgewizard[> you sound like a snooty cat, financially.
13:07:56 <knowledgewizard[> anyway you can mine ethereum with the rig also, putting you in the green, and supplement losses with monero electricity
14:39:09 <ndorf> i think you would need to be mining as (part of) a business for that, no?
14:39:34 <ndorf> and if you show nothing but losses for a couple of years in a row, your "business" gets declared a hobby and you lose the benefits anyway
15:12:56 <DisBotXMR> <Moneroship> not reimbursed but you can tax deduct losses
19:02:55 <Zerock> I want to run a public node from a location with a dynamic IP address. Is there a way I can have monerod bind in such a way that it accepts external connections but doesn't depend on a static IP?
19:04:36 <lithiumpt> bind to 0.0.0.0
19:05:11 <lithiumpt> and you need some sort of dynamic dns
19:05:17 <lithiumpt> to reach it
19:10:26 <Zerock> of course, thanks
19:35:49 <gingeropolous> Zerock, i'd recommend afraid.org
19:36:06 <Zerock> what is that?
19:38:16 <gingeropolous> dns provider
19:38:24 <gingeropolous> that has dymanic offerings
19:38:51 <Zerock> ah I see. I already have a dynamic DNS provider
19:43:25 <yqjhabypvcin> When Tari finally comes out, will you dump your Monero to buy it? Will others?
19:56:55 <gingeropolous> ah gotcha.
19:57:54 <adamas> j/exit
19:59:19 <apotheon> By the way, 0.0.0.0 seems to be one of those things that only works because, on a strictly local system basis, violating standards doesn't cause incompatibilities with other systems.
19:59:30 <apotheon> Zerock and lithiumpt
20:44:39 <strike> .faucet
20:44:39 <Wallet> strike: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in?
20:45:52 <strike> .faucet
20:45:54 <Wallet> strike: 10, __​, 8, 7
20:45:56 <strike> 9
20:45:56 <Wallet> strike: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000012 XMR to strike [93d571fb] Wait ≈23 hrs 57 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01217404
20:56:51 <Bill48105> wow jess got rekt
20:57:40 <Bill48105> lol
20:59:09 <Bill48105> wonder who many times people fall for her quit message
21:30:47 <selsta> Bill48105: I fell for it lol
22:42:43 <burp_> .faucet
22:42:44 <Wallet> burp_: @bonuspot tipped 0.00001 XMR to burp_ [1cd8820b] Wait ≈23 hrs 59 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01216404
22:42:54 <burp_> !balance
22:42:56 <burp_> .balance
22:42:56 <Wallet> burp_: • Your balance is: 0.0000106 XMR (≈0 USD)
22:43:21 <burp_> !rainactive 0.000001
22:43:24 <burp_> .rainactive 0.000001
22:44:36 <burp_> .soak 0.000001 180
22:44:36 <Wallet> burp_: Oops: 0.000001 - invalid amount (must be 0.00001 or more)
23:22:49 <Alabalistic> Hello, I have 2 nodes with 14 and 2 cores respectevly 7KH 2KH, is it wort it to bundel them together, or is the same working together in the same pool?
23:24:44 <moneromooo> It should be mostly the same, except twice as much network traffic, but unless your connection is very slow, it should not matter.
23:31:49 <WhiteNoise[m]> Hi
23:32:45 <WhiteNoise[m]> How much fee is taken when purchasing xmr on an exchange?
23:33:11 <moneromooo> Depends who you ask. For you, too much. For the exchange, not enough.
23:33:27 <WhiteNoise[m]> Say purchasing £100
23:33:46 <moneromooo> Your exchange should have that info, look at their website.
23:33:59 <moneromooo> If more than 1%, run.
23:34:27 <WhiteNoise[m]> Well I tried one place then transferred to my wallet
23:35:32 <WhiteNoise[m]> Wallet shows almost £40 less than £100 😬
23:36:12 <moneromooo> It does auto rate conversion ?
23:36:13 <WhiteNoise[m]> I chose standard priority rather than low
23:36:32 <WhiteNoise[m]> Am I missing something here?
23:36:36 <moneromooo> Then you probably have a combination of trade fee, withdraw fee, exchange rate moving around...
23:36:45 <moneromooo> But it seems pretty stiff.
23:37:05 <WhiteNoise[m]> <moneromooo "It does auto rate conversion ?"> I checked in my personal wallet after tranfser
23:37:21 <moneromooo> The monero network fee itself is tiny. Like 1p or something.
23:39:03 <WhiteNoise[m]> <moneromooo "The monero network fee itself is"> Yea , the fee quoted was low...been using localmonero exchange
23:39:36 <moneromooo> Ah, then you're trading with any one of the people on that site, they can set their own rates.
23:39:47 <WhiteNoise[m]> Might need three jobs soon with all these fees 😆
23:40:13 <WhiteNoise[m]> <moneromooo "Ah, then you're trading with any"> Ah yes okay...
23:41:39 <WhiteNoise[m]> Pft capitalists