00:57:32 <Alabalistic> moneromooo: thanks for the answer, I will continue as it is, no need to run a proxy.
02:38:30 <u9000[m]> hello
02:39:32 <u9000[m]> i'm new to crypto, so sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but how can i tell whether an exchange is good?
02:40:52 <nioc> ask :)
02:41:12 <nioc> look at their history
02:42:31 <nioc> if you don't mind giving your info kraken is very good
02:42:34 <u9000[m]> ask being an exchange or a person presumably in this room?
02:42:56 <nioc> well you are asking so :)
02:42:58 <u9000[m]> oh wait i get it
02:43:31 <u9000[m]> :-)
02:44:01 <u9000[m]> ok i'll check out kraken, thank you :-)
02:44:36 <nioc> guess convivence of getting $ on and off is also a consideration
02:45:25 <nioc> anytime you use "real" money with an exchange you need to give them your info
02:45:48 <nioc> crypto to crypto not necessarily
02:46:25 <u9000[m]> that's kyc, right?
02:46:47 <nioc> yes
02:47:55 <nioc> another way is the p2p service localmonero
02:48:13 <nioc> I have never used them
02:48:47 <u9000[m]> yeah i was looking at that, it seems pretty good for avoiding kyc but not for speed
02:48:48 <nioc> prices are higher but non kyc and cash is an option
02:49:06 <u9000[m]> which is probably fine most of the time
03:57:03 <mnt_grrrl> My host had a major fire and my server was restored when I try and restart monerod I get the following error:
03:57:04 <mnt_grrrl> 2021-03-13 03:55:52.192	    7f111f072780	WARNING	global	src/blockchain_db/lmdb/db_lmdb.cpp:1353	The blockchain is on a rotating drive: this will be very slow, use an SSD if possible
03:57:04 <mnt_grrrl> 2021-03-13 03:55:52.193	    7f111f072780	WARNING	blockchain.db.lmdb	src/blockchain_db/lmdb/db_lmdb.cpp:82	Failed to query m_blocks: MDB_BAD_TXN: Transaction must abort, has a child, or is invalid
03:57:04 <mnt_grrrl> 2021-03-13 03:55:52.193	    7f111f072780	ERROR	cn	src/cryptonote_core/cryptonote_core.cpp:616	Error opening database: Failed to query m_blocks: MDB_BAD_TXN: Transaction must abort, has a child, or is invalid
03:57:05 <mnt_grrrl> 2021-03-13 03:55:52.193	    7f111f072780	INFO	global	src/daemon/protocol.h:75	Stopping cryptonote protocol...
04:01:18 <gingeropolous> id bet corrupt blockchain
04:01:33 <gingeropolous> i mean, there was a fire
04:15:13 <donkeydonkey[m]> is there a new winner for quick xmr swap now that xmr.to is goner both direction swap would be cool too
04:17:55 <XeN[m]> i saw on reddit.it xmr.is uses the incognito dex but its kinda new. havent used it myself but been eyeing it
06:04:49 * Moneroship[m]  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/UmCBnsSZDBZMKAHfNDZcGlCN/message.txt >
06:51:19 <Bill48105> donkey when you are up to testing you can test swap command on Wallet. it's basically just a val price lookup & 2 users tipping each other in one combined process
06:52:55 <Bill48105> it does work with all platforms the bot is on but for matrix you need to actually be logged in here or in a matrix channel the bot is in
07:11:52 <Mochi101> Bill48105, Botomic Swap?
10:02:27 <Monerujos> @SerHack bro I opened issue on monerophp on github, when you have time please check
10:03:14 <SerHack> @Monerujos: I saw that, thanks for the ping. I wonder if there's any problem related to timeout
10:04:48 <Monerujos> Doesn't seem to be an issue, increased timeout at all points
10:26:36 <Monerujos> are you also running Monero Integrations alone?
10:42:20 <SerHack> @monerujos unfortunately yes, I was looking for maintainers
10:42:27 <SerHack> I've too many projects :p
10:57:02 <Monerujos> integrations are key thing to wider adoption, you should expect bigger support from community in next period
10:59:25 <Mochi101> SerHack, maybe you can help me.
11:00:03 <Mochi101> Has to do with the WP Plugin
11:02:45 * xanspie[m]  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/njXdhmRKrCWbEQnRlTyRpToK/message.txt >
11:03:33 <xanspie[m]> I did use SideShift the other day and that was much better experience, very quick too
13:01:25 <sethsimmons> Now Bitcoin is being used to trace and "cancel" donors and FOSS users:
13:01:25 <sethsimmons> https://twitter.com/sethisimmons/status/1370721319680155651?s=20
13:03:04 <mechanic41turk[m> sethsimmons: thanks for drawing attention to that appaling attack against Luke Smith.
13:03:17 <Mochi101> wow
13:03:54 <mechanic41turk[m> It is reprehensible on part of "journalists" (more like ideological-hitmen) to paint a free and open source software advocate and youtuber as a far-right figure.
13:08:53 <sethsimmons> Absolute insanity
13:09:02 <sethsimmons> And just because he got a donation they don't like
13:09:21 <sethsimmons> A technological failure and an ideological disease.
13:32:23 <xanspie[m]> Fuck “cancel culture”
13:35:36 <sech1> cancer culture
13:40:00 <sethsimmons> Shared on Reddit as well:
13:40:00 <sethsimmons> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/m466n9/luke_smith_a_well_known_privacy_and_foss_advocate/
13:47:52 <knowledgewizard[> Journalists are great
13:47:56 <knowledgewizard[> actual journalists
13:48:50 <knowledgewizard[> Do you guys think the energy costs of crypto are going to expand exponentially the way the media is painting it, or stay fairly static?
13:50:02 <Mochi101> it's self balancing
13:50:31 <xanspie[m]> I reckon cryptos will make themselves more energy efficient over time (e.g. by moving to proof of stake) and I also think the media is forgetting the fact more and more electricity comes from renewable sources these days and that will become 100% in the future.
13:50:53 <Mochi101> If the price of energy goes up to make it less lucrative to mine then the amount of miners will go down and the difficulty to match.
13:51:24 <xanspie[m]> In the UK about 50% of our electricity’s from renewable sources and journalists seem to forget this fact when whining about the electricity used by crypto mining
13:51:43 <Mochi101> xanspie[m], 50% from renewables?
13:51:46 <Mochi101> Come on.
13:51:57 <xanspie[m]> I believe so. Let me find a source.
13:52:06 <xanspie[m]> Talking about the UK remember not worldwide.
13:52:31 <knowledgewizard[> it seems like a wind or water turbine is a great pair for mining crypto
13:52:48 <knowledgewizard[> sunlight isnt a lot of energy, but turbines seem like something an individual could use
13:53:04 * xanspie[m] uploaded an image: (2558KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/the.xanny.family/rZWvJJxJcgyrkASROxJjmdDU/ima_d2d600a.png >
13:53:06 <xanspie[m]> 42%
13:53:31 <knowledgewizard[> ember lol
13:53:44 <knowledgewizard[> they're funded by the central information alliance
13:53:58 <knowledgewizard[> i always laugh when they come up in the news
13:59:52 <DisBotXMR> <TrooperZ> this is not monero related, but the weebs have gotten into crypto
13:59:56 <DisBotXMR> <TrooperZ> waifutoken.ioo
14:00:05 <DisBotXMR> <TrooperZ> you can buy a waifu NFT wtf
14:00:05 <Mochi101> xanspie[m], burning would is considered "renewable energy".
14:00:26 <Mochi101> "The government’s renewable energy data includes electricity from the UK’s windfarms, solar panels and hydro power plants as well as bioenergy generated by burning wood chips instead of coal."
14:04:07 <xanspie[m]> Yeah I know including wood is a bit iffy. I mean it is renewable. But obviously burning it isn’t green.
14:04:07 <xanspie[m]> My central point is valid regardless - an increasing amount of our power is coming from renewable sources and this is only increasing over time.
14:05:38 <Mochi101> xanspie[m], Windmills are slowing down the rotation of the earth by applying massive amounts of force on the ground from the wind passing through the blades. This force would have otherwise been over 100x less because the laminar flow of the wind over the surface of the earth would apply much less resistance to the earth's rotation. We have 12 years to pull down all the windmills and save the planet from destruction!
14:07:41 <moneromooo> That seems preposterous at first glance. Like orders of magnitude preposterous.
14:07:50 <Mochi101> ;)
14:07:54 <knowledgewizard[> You're right, it's clearly 11 years
14:07:56 <knowledgewizard[> fool.
14:11:04 <ptsd[m]1> How dare you
14:11:44 <Mochi101> How about this then moneromooo? Water vapor is known to be Earth’s most abundant greenhouse gas.
14:13:37 <Mochi101> https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/vapor_warming.html
14:14:25 <Mochi101> So water vapour causes global warming... which evaporates the water on earth even more... and causes more global warming...
14:14:32 <Mochi101> We are so screwed.
14:15:26 <xanspie[m]> We're all gonna die
14:15:39 <xanspie[m]> Hope I can take my crypto with me into the next life
14:24:29 <moneromooo> Water vapour is actually a fairly potent greenhouse gas IIRC. It doesn't linger for hundred or thousands of years though.
14:31:40 <crst> How can you start monero-wallet-cli without mining?
14:32:09 <moneromooo> monero-wallet-cli --wallet-file /path/to/your/wallet
14:33:16 <crst> moneromooo: Strange, that's what I do and I get `Background mining enabled. Thank you for supporting the Monero network.`
14:33:39 <moneromooo> That's because you set it up before. If you want if off: set background-mining 0
14:34:06 <moneromooo> er: set setup-background-mining 0
14:35:11 <moneromooo> or 2... Looks like 0 will ask again, 2 is don't ask nor mine.
14:36:14 <crst> moneromooo: Got it, yeah was just saying it's `set setup-background-mining 0`
14:36:50 <moneromooo> Ah, missed it. And it's not working then ?
14:38:10 <crst> moneromooo: yep, it works
14:38:52 <crst> `Background mining not enabled. Run "set setup-background-mining 1" to change.` to be clear
14:39:04 <crst> I already run xmrig
14:39:09 <crst> no need for this
14:41:35 <crst> A thing I can't figure out from `help set`. How can you change the time or disable the inactivity lock?
14:44:14 <moneromooo> set inactivity-lock-timeout 0
14:44:24 <moneromooo> It's in seconds, 0 to disable.
14:49:23 <pixelized[m]> do you reckon monero might ever move to an alternative consensus mechanism, like proof of stake?
15:01:16 <crst> moneromooo: thanks!
15:01:56 <Moneroship[m]> doubt it
15:01:59 <Moneroship[m]> but its possible
15:04:11 <Moneroship[m]> what would be the benefit?
15:06:02 <Moneroship[m]> i think with RandomX itl be hard to make an argument for PoS over PoW
15:06:02 <Moneroship[m]> PoS we don't know who holds the majority of staking power due to privacy etc
15:06:02 <Moneroship[m]> PoW anyone can mine - maybe someone cant afford monero but almost everyone has a CPU
15:06:47 <Mochi101> yeap
15:06:52 <Moneroship[m]> PoW + RandomX could mean that the network is more decentralized than would be possible with PoS - as only investors can participate in the network
15:18:41 <gingeropolous> yeah PoS just recreates central banking by a different name
15:50:54 <u9000[m]> <DisBotXMR "<TrooperZ> waifutoken.ioo"> why do sites think it's appropriate to change people's cursors?
16:33:50 <anon_udxf6fdz[m]> Does anyone know where I can find the log for #MyMonero on freenode?
16:43:19 <buenchicoakaLord> no history eh
16:44:31 <buenchicoakaLord> matrix bridges 🙄
16:44:49 <anon_CWEJRrIS> I don't think mymonero is bridged.
16:45:04 <buenchicoakaLord> ah
16:45:08 <buenchicoakaLord> that's where most traffic is?
16:53:29 <endogenic> the mymonero terms dont let you use it for something that could get rate limited
16:53:37 <endogenic> so not sure why you're gonna ask in there
16:53:46 <endogenic> anyway why dont you spin up your own server
16:54:28 <endogenic> that's why i spent money out of pocket to make an open source one for you
17:06:23 <anon_CWEJRrIS> Mind if I dm you?
17:06:48 <apotheon> Whom?
17:06:54 <anon_CWEJRrIS> endogenic
17:07:15 <endogenic> thanks for asking. you can DM
17:16:37 <louipc> hey does monero have a fancysymbol like ₿ Ð $
17:17:05 <endogenic> yeah it's that curly M thing
17:17:14 <endogenic> now we can spell bdsm
17:17:30 <louipc> yea ;)
17:17:59 <anon_CWEJRrIS> ɱ
17:18:09 <anon_CWEJRrIS> Weird that you asked, I had it up
17:18:30 <anon_CWEJRrIS> ₿ Ð $ ɱ
17:19:16 <louipc> Ɱ
17:20:17 <louipc> that would be a good letter for michael jackson
17:21:17 <mechanic41turk[m> Ɱonerujo
17:21:29 <Monerujos> yes?
17:24:53 <Monerujos> @SerHack check your monero donate address and don't forget github issue and i won't forget you I promise
18:19:12 <Inge-> what is the Ð?
18:19:33 <sech1> Dash?
18:19:43 <Inge-> ugh
18:23:36 <apotheon> Why ugh?
18:24:02 <apotheon> (any more than any other slightly-but-not-much-more-private-than-BTC cryptocurrency)
18:24:50 <moneromooo> It's a scam. Plenty of oddities (to be nice) at launch, all favouring the insider(s) massively.
18:25:08 <apotheon> hmm
18:25:11 <apotheon> I don't know the details.
18:25:19 <apotheon> Can you elaborate a bit?
18:25:48 <moneromooo> Not really. I'd have to google it myself.
18:27:14 <apotheon> okay
18:27:19 <apotheon> no biggie, I guess
18:27:38 <apotheon> I just don't (yet) have much reason to have the same visceral reaction, I suppose.
18:27:44 <apotheon> My response is more "meh".
18:28:09 <nioc> they now claim to be less private than btc
18:28:11 <nioc> :)
18:29:09 <apotheon> I've heard it said this was basically just marketing to keep it on KYC exchanges, and not representative of the actual privacy benefits of the coinage, but . . . I wouldn't know.  I haven't really looked into Dash in any depth.
18:29:32 <moneromooo> They've always been about marketing first really, so not a surprise.
18:30:12 <apotheon> har
18:30:12 <moneromooo> That's the thing that really grated. Lies and lies all over, and hype and hype.
18:30:45 <apotheon> I didn't follow any of that.
18:30:56 <moneromooo> I admit I'm biased now due to the utter dishonesty and/or stupidity (sometimes both) of many of the people who were shilling dash at the time.
18:31:18 <apotheon> lovely
18:31:20 <moneromooo> That was not the coin itself.
18:31:24 <apotheon> right
18:31:46 <moneromooo> Anyway, good riddance.
18:33:14 <apotheon> righto
18:33:17 <moneromooo> So many dishonest fuckers in these parts. Poeple like the dash creator, Craig Write, fireice, the Bytecoin scammers... bitconnect...
18:35:42 <nioc> humans.....how do they work?
18:36:52 <louipc> funkily
18:45:51 <buenchicoakaLord> <endogenic "that's why i spent money out of "> what is that? which project?
18:49:03 <anon_CWEJRrIS> This project: https://github.com/moneroexamples/openmonero
18:49:21 <endogenic> no
18:49:44 <endogenic> humans. those are still humans?
18:50:29 <moneromooo> I dunno. At least one seems to have turned into a hatebot :D
18:52:10 <Mochi101> .faucet
18:52:11 <Wallet> Mochi101: How many​ digits is 7
18:52:13 <Mochi101> 1
18:52:13 <Wallet> Mochi101: @bonuspot tipped 0.000007 XMR to Mochi101 [de678a7c] Wait ≈1 day 1 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01216204
18:52:44 <Mochi101> Well, that goes into my retirement fund.
18:53:46 <cation21> .faucet
18:53:47 <Wallet> cation21: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command.
18:53:48 <Wallet> cation21: 1/4 of 1​6
18:53:51 <cation21> 4
18:53:51 <Wallet> cation21: @bonuspot tipped 0.00001 XMR to cation21 [5c4145ac] Wait ≈23 hrs 56 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01215204
18:54:38 <moneromooo> Mochi101: you got short changed :o
18:54:49 <moneromooo> Oh wait. That's just inflation.
18:54:54 <Mochi101> yes
18:55:24 <Mochi101> Don't worry moneromooo, I use fiat mostly, so I'm used to being short changed.
18:55:57 * moneromooo forks shortchangecoin
18:56:14 <buenchicoakaLord> does anyone have a short list of repos/projects that can be used to auto-deploy daemon nodes
18:56:15 <moneromooo> You never get change back. Cuts blockchain bloat by 50%.
18:56:33 <buenchicoakaLord> like ansible, salt-stack kinda stuff
18:56:45 <moneromooo> gingeropolous had a monerodo... OS I think ? Not sure it's still around...
18:57:01 <buenchicoakaLord> a whole OS image?
18:57:24 <moneromooo> I think it was. Maybe.
18:57:25 <buenchicoakaLord> heck even a container blueprint would be aight
18:57:33 <buenchicoakaLord> full disclosure i haven't dug at all
18:57:51 <moneromooo> Well, there's a docker config in the monero tree.
18:58:04 <buenchicoakaLord> ahh right
18:58:08 <buenchicoakaLord> i remember seeing that
18:58:11 <moneromooo> I assume it works but I've not tried :)
18:58:11 <buenchicoakaLord> will dig
18:58:35 <buenchicoakaLord> moneromooo: thx for the tip
18:58:50 <Mochi101> Sounds like a good project moneromooo, can I get in on the pre-mine?
18:59:59 <buenchicoakaLord> https://github.com/Gingeropolous/monerodo
19:00:02 <buenchicoakaLord> for anyone looking
19:00:06 <nioc> .faucet
19:00:07 <Wallet> nioc: Half of te​n
19:00:12 <nioc> 17
19:00:12 <Wallet> nioc: Oops that is not correct. Try again later.
19:00:17 <nioc> damn
19:00:37 <endogenic> https://github.com/vtnerd/monero-lws
19:00:40 <endogenic> buenchicoakaLord:
19:01:11 <Mochi101> So close nioc
19:01:30 <buenchicoakaLord> oh lit
19:01:32 <buenchicoakaLord> thx
19:01:54 <endogenic> you're welcome
19:02:05 <buenchicoakaLord> also for trading
19:02:20 <buenchicoakaLord> what exchange is most recommended by the community
19:02:29 <buenchicoakaLord> if that's even a thing peeps care about
19:02:52 <Mochi101> gingeropolous, are you going to make my toaster into a Monerodo?
19:05:46 <gingeropolous> absolutely
19:06:08 <gingeropolous> buenchicoakaLord, nodecannon
19:06:56 <gingeropolous> https://github.com/lalanza808/docker-monero-node , https://github.com/lalanza808/xmr-node-cannon-do
19:07:09 <buenchicoakaLord> 👍️
19:07:33 <gingeropolous> is that repo in the ecosystem repo?
19:07:57 <buenchicoakaLord> slick yah the docker one will be a nice place to start
19:08:05 <gingeropolous> also buenchicoakaLord , https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/monerobox
19:08:12 <gingeropolous> and in general, https://github.com/monero-ecosystem
19:08:24 <buenchicoakaLord> beauty
19:09:04 <buenchicoakaLord> oh sick
19:09:05 <buenchicoakaLord> python client
19:09:09 <buenchicoakaLord> also something i was after
19:14:12 <gingeropolous> hooray monero ecocystem ppl!
19:59:51 <Zerock> How can I configure monero-wallet-gui to connect to a specific node when running in simple mode (e.g. a node on the LAN)?
20:02:15 <moneromooo> There should be a daemon address widget in the options somewhere.
20:02:24 <moneromooo> This is persistent AFAIK.
20:03:21 <Zerock> not that I can find
20:03:47 <moneromooo> Hrm. OK, might have changed then.
20:11:24 <selsta> Zerock: don't select simple mode in this case
20:20:41 <buenchicoakaLord> straight up yeet fest going on
20:24:38 <Zerock> hmm, I can't seem to connect to the node. I have the node's rpc-bind-ip set to 0.0.0.0, and I explicitly set the port to 18081, but the client fails to connect, and I don't see any errors in the client or daemon log
20:25:05 <Zerock> ah wait I may have just found it
20:25:28 <buenchicoakaLord> i was gonna say
20:25:38 <buenchicoakaLord> i usually nmap scan myself from a non-lan location
20:25:57 <Zerock> hehehe yep that did it. I didn't realize the socks proxy also ran for remote node connections. It only claimed to use it for checking for updates and getting exchange rates when in simple mode
20:26:26 <Zerock> so trying to connect to a LAN address over the internet no worky
20:28:30 <selsta> Zerock: when switching to advanced mode the description should update
20:29:07 <Zerock> yeah it did, I just didn't think to check for changing option descriptions when I switched modes to specify the node details
22:28:12 <kjd> hmmm mymonero's node is dead?
22:31:13 <endogenic> what's new
22:32:05 <SerHack> should be up