01:15:10 <fyaikkygb> When Tari finally comes out, will you dump your Monero to buy it? Will others?
08:47:07 <ifktmdwazui> Dear fireice_uk. I must strongly object to you reporting our great Monro community members to Freenode for racism AND getting people K-lined as a result! i.imgur.com/R0T9GGY.png THEY ARE NOT NEO-NAZI!!! THEY ARE JUST SAYING NEO-NAZI THINGS!! i.imgur.com/JYu44As.png I know this because they have been nice to me and made me their Magical Crypto Friend! If you don't cease immediately I shall throw another tantrum!
08:47:07 <ifktmdwazui> Monero Community Member PS. You are interrupting my session of masturbation to The Man in the High Castle.
11:41:05 <x_ae_a_xii[m]> Hi! Is there a reason why this room isn't encrypted?
11:42:27 <moneromooo> So that anyone can read it, and post in it.
11:46:29 <x_ae_a_xii[m]> Wouldn't that be the same because you can only see the contents after you join? So if this room would be encrypted you could see the messeges after joining too. Isn't it the same?
11:48:10 <moneromooo> So you'd want to encrypt it but give the keys to everyone ?
11:48:37 <moneromooo> I'm not even sure what encrypting a room is really. You can use SSL on your connection to the freenode server you're on, but Freenode decrypts so they can relay to others.
11:49:10 <moneromooo> But it's a public channel. Add crypto weight is pointless if everyone has the keys on request.
11:50:08 <x_ae_a_xii[m]> So it's unnecessary, right? :)
11:50:58 <qwerty444> hello
11:51:13 <moneromooo> hi
11:51:15 <qwerty444> when u are behind router is better to use igd or not
11:52:15 <moneromooo> AFAIK IGD is for telling the router "do what you need to do to route my stuff". So use this is you've no idea how to use a router and it's set up for automatic use.
11:55:42 <qwerty444> default is disabled i think right?because is not connection in my case if i dont do --add-exclusive-node ip
11:56:08 <moneromooo> I think defualt is enabled, since there's a --no-igd.
11:57:42 <qwerty444> i want to connect from my tablet daemon to my server daemon that is behind router and if i dont do --add-exclusive-node ip will not connect!
11:58:28 <moneromooo> You're using a LAN IP for this ?
11:58:35 <qwerty444> yes
11:59:22 <qwerty444> because server has 192.168.1.... internal ip
11:59:52 <moneromooo> It's normal then. Daemons will connect to WAN routable IPs.
12:00:00 <moneromooo> So what you did and all is good.
12:01:17 <qwerty444> yes but is not connection is saying smth like "connection timeout" 5000
12:06:49 <qwerty444> why is this  "connection timeout" 5000
12:07:16 <moneromooo> Can't reach the other side.
12:11:14 <qwerty444> so igd is not working
12:11:38 <qwerty444> or is not enabled by default
12:14:22 <moneromooo> I don't *think* IGD is meant to route stuff within your LAN, but to the outside. I could be wrong though.
12:15:16 <qwerty444> yes i agree but what do in my case
12:16:23 <moneromooo> Can you ping that other machine from the connecting one ?
12:16:56 <moneromooo> Oh wait. I had assumed both were on the LAN. Is your tablet on the outside ?
12:17:05 <qwerty444> yes tablet is outside
12:17:42 <moneromooo> Why do you need to connect your tablet daemon to your server daemon and not any other ?
12:18:05 <qwerty444> because i do solo mining from server
12:19:26 <moneromooo> I do not see the relevance, but anyway: you need to open port 18080 on your router and route it to your server. Then reconnect your tablet when your IP changes.
12:19:50 <qwerty444> port is open i checked this
12:20:05 <moneromooo> I don't know how igd actually works, it's *supposed* to open the ports but I can't hlep if it doesn't. Maybe if you wait, someone who knows igd wlil reply.
12:20:13 <moneromooo> Oh ok. Then it's odd.
12:20:41 <moneromooo> Does the server see an incoming connection from the tablet at all ? "set_log 2" will show.
12:20:52 <moneromooo> grep for "NEW" and the tablet's IP.
12:21:04 <moneromooo> Then "set_log 0" to go bacl to default logs.
12:21:09 <qwerty444> ok
12:25:50 <qwerty444> hm i dont c tablet ip but port is open!
12:27:00 <moneromooo> Are you sure the tablet is connecting to the right IP, and that the router is routing that port to the server running monerod ?
12:27:21 <qwerty444> yes
12:36:16 <moneromooo> Firewall maybe ?
12:37:08 <marmulak> mebbe
12:38:25 <qwerty444> yes i need to check maybe fail2ban
12:38:29 <qwerty444> smth like this
14:20:20 <dethos[m]> Hello, when we have a multisig wallet, a call to the transfer command generates a file (or hex in case of the RPC) containing the "transaction" already "partially signed" that we would then need to share with the other multisig parties. Is there a way of generating such transaction without signing it right away?
14:20:46 <moneromooo> No.
14:21:11 <moneromooo> Well, other than having the second signer generate it instead.
14:25:13 <dethos[m]> hmm, thanks. Given that when using a cold wallet together with a view-only wallet, we are able to generate an unsigned transaction to be signed offline, I was expecting that something similar would be possible.
14:32:58 <Bill48105> mooo giving top notch support as usual
14:36:17 <signalarch[m]> Any good trusted private android wallets?
14:38:53 <moneromooo> There was monerujo but they recently started whitelisting dash so careful I guess. Hopefully still good.
14:39:52 <moneromooo> Feather wallet might also do, they don't have an android version per se but it might work.
14:40:05 <entry1[m]> Cake Wallet seems pretty decent from a usability standpoint, but I don't have enough knowledge to be able to recommend it
14:40:18 <moneromooo> I think cake is ios only, not android ?
14:40:44 <moneromooo> (if it is also android, it seems like a pretty good choice)
14:40:49 <gingeropolous> cake is on android
14:40:54 <moneromooo> Alright, thanks.
14:41:01 <moneromooo> What's the ios one then ?
14:41:06 <moneromooo> Or cake also ?
14:41:10 <entry1[m]> They also have an Android version too luckily, but I can't recommend it from a person with technical knowledge
14:41:15 <entry1[m]> Yep, iOS as well
14:41:20 <moneromooo> OK, ty :)
14:41:42 <entry1[m]> No, thank you! You created moneroaddress.org right?
14:42:00 <moneromooo> I wrote the code, saddam hosts it there.
14:42:46 <entry1[m]> That's so cool that you're so active, thanks for all your hard work.
14:48:10 <signalarch[m]> Cake, edge, and mymonero where the ones I've found. Cake is the best?
14:49:21 <selsta> monerujo should also be available
14:49:28 <selsta> I don’t think you can see which is the "best"
14:49:30 <selsta> say*
14:50:11 <diverter[m]> <signalarch[m] "Cake, edge, and mymonero where t"> Don't leave out Monerujo
14:54:12 <CuriosityNOW> hello, i wanted to start a topic about
14:54:22 <CuriosityNOW> true decentralised network
14:54:31 <CuriosityNOW> on same ideas as monero
14:54:37 <CuriosityNOW> can we fund and create such project?
14:55:00 <CuriosityNOW> low latency truly decentralised tor alternative
15:03:46 <CuriosityNOW> i am sure anyone supporting tor would support monero created network
15:04:03 <CuriosityNOW> and run node software side to side with tor relay
15:04:06 <moneromooo> Monero would create a tor alternative ?
15:04:21 <moneromooo> How would you create a tor alternative and say monero did it ? :)
15:04:44 <CuriosityNOW> just curious, could such network be created
15:04:52 <CuriosityNOW> and funded without USA money
15:04:53 <CuriosityNOW> but XMR
15:04:58 <moneromooo> Nonero is software, it doesn't create other software really.
15:05:01 <yanmaani> what is the point
15:05:05 <yanmaani> what is the specific issue with tor
15:05:11 <yanmaani> what problem are you trying to solve
15:06:24 <CuriosityNOW> some points of centralization and on my opinion tor project represent their own perspective first
15:06:31 <CuriosityNOW> backed by funding they receive
15:06:53 <CuriosityNOW> and not always open source community needs
15:07:07 <yanmaani> this is not a specific issue
15:07:08 <moneromooo> Now that's pretty subjective.
15:07:30 <yanmaani> what is the perspective that is not being represented? what are the open source community needs not being met?
15:07:46 <moneromooo> If you were to start a project like this, would you always serve open source community needs first ?
15:07:56 <moneromooo> (whatever that means)
15:08:08 <CuriosityNOW> well I see what happens with monero
15:08:11 <CuriosityNOW> and can see different
15:08:23 <yanmaani> as for the centralization, the problem is that only people who are into tor are willing to run Tor relays. this is because nobody who doesn't like Tor runs a relay.
15:08:23 <CuriosityNOW> way monero and tor project are handling things
15:09:01 <moneromooo> Not true.
15:09:22 <moneromooo> Well, I don't know for a *fact*, but I'm reasonably certain various parties who do not like tor do run relays :D
15:10:20 <CuriosityNOW> i see better math behind monero then behind tor
15:10:25 <CuriosityNOW> healthier community
15:10:27 <CuriosityNOW> not sure
15:10:34 <yanmaani> true lol, malicious ones. but nobody who thinks tor is OK but not great would run one. The reason is that there's no financial incentives, because doing so would create even worse problems.
15:10:35 <CuriosityNOW> maybe it's subjective
15:10:36 <yanmaani> >better math
15:10:44 <yanmaani> what does this even mean?
15:11:01 <CuriosityNOW> better academic research
15:11:09 <CuriosityNOW> obviously funded by community
15:11:17 <CuriosityNOW> funding is the key
15:11:44 <yanmaani> well, do you fund the tor project?
15:11:59 <CuriosityNOW> less then I donate to monero
15:13:41 <moneromooo> There was the kovri project, which built an i2p router. It failed. Mostly because it was mostly a one person project, some others came and went, but ultimately one person (who was hard to work with at that).
15:13:57 <yanmaani> see, there we go. the reason tor is funded by big money donors and not the community, is that big money donors (and not the community) fund tor
15:14:04 <moneromooo> So if people around monero were to try to build another such thing, I see no reason it'd fare better.
15:14:25 <yanmaani> if you had specific issues in Tor, it would be simpler to fix those
15:14:37 <moneromooo> It'd be an even harder job if you were to design a new network too, rather than build something from an existing design (like i2p for kovri).
15:15:06 <moneromooo> And it'd take a while to show that this new design is secure.
15:15:44 <moneromooo> And if it's not substantially better, you risk just splitting the user base of such networks further, which is bad for privacy in general.
15:16:06 <moneromooo> Substantially better would be worth it though. But that's something you must first demonstrate.
15:16:38 <moneromooo> So contributing to tor and/or i2p seems like a better thing to do at first approximation.
15:17:06 <CuriosityNOW> I feel like monero will surpass tor and i2p in next 2 years
15:17:15 <CuriosityNOW> and community will all together become much more rich
15:17:18 <moneromooo> If you're worried about centralization (directory authorities I guess ?) then try to find ways to lessen dependence on them.
15:17:24 <CuriosityNOW> I followed kovri project
15:17:42 <CuriosityNOW> it lacked funding?
15:17:57 <onf> CuriosityNOW: it mainly lacked devs afaik
15:19:08 <CuriosityNOW> one thing I know centralization is bad, and focussing all privacy into tor without alternative
15:19:14 <CuriosityNOW> is bad thing for long-term
15:19:38 <CuriosityNOW> is it hard to find right devs for kovri ?
15:20:09 <hyc> yes
15:20:30 <hyc> low level networking code, very few people have the training to do it properly
15:24:05 <SleepingShell> Does monero run fine on a HDD?
15:25:19 <hyc> initial blockchain sync is very slow on HDD. everything else, no difference.
15:27:43 <SleepingShell> hyc: thanks, would it be recommended to copy over the files manually first then? I have a copy of the blockchain already
15:28:01 <selsta> yes
15:30:05 <CuriosityNOW> this loki network, we couldn't make something similar?
15:30:07 <hyc> definitely would save time
15:30:31 <CuriosityNOW> and is it known who is in charge for kovri project?
15:33:31 <hyc> nobody is in charge of kovri now, it's a dead project
15:34:10 <SleepingShell> Damn I remember being really hyped for that
15:35:12 <SleepingShell> Also, I don't need to worry about having some old, less efficient format with my current blockchain right?
15:37:52 <hyc> nope
15:39:35 <CuriosityNOW> hyc, what would you do if want to put a lot of money into privacy network
15:39:44 <CuriosityNOW> but don't like how tor handle things?
15:41:13 <hyc> I would probably do something very similar to kovri, try to improve i2pd.
15:43:53 <endor00[m]> Or just integrate Bob/Sam into the monero codebase - making it compatible with any standard i2p variant
15:44:18 <endor00[m]> Probably much simpler than reinventing the wheel once again
15:45:26 <hyc> yeah I wouldn't start from scratch
15:52:45 <angrymonkeyboi[m> i2pd accepts everything for donation except XMR 😂
15:52:45 <angrymonkeyboi[m> https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd
15:54:00 <selsta> there was some drama between i2pd and kovri a while ago that's why
15:54:03 <charolastra> honeypot detected
15:54:26 <CuriosityNOW> very sad about donation
15:54:51 <CuriosityNOW> i see also lack of youtube videos about monero
15:55:07 <angrymonkeyboi[m> <selsta "there was some drama between i2p"> That sucks. Didn't know about that
15:55:15 <angrymonkeyboi[m> kovri is abandoned now?
15:55:50 <charolastra> yes, afaik the dev exit scammed
15:56:12 <selsta> wouldn't call it exit scam
15:56:15 <angrymonkeyboi[m> Exit scammed a community funded project?
15:56:51 <charolastra> didn't he get filthy rich and delivered nothing?
15:56:54 <moneromooo> He stopped working on kovri, but did not exit scam AFAIK. That would imply he had money upfront, which I do not believe was the case.
15:57:00 <CuriosityNOW> https://forum.getmonero.org/22/completed-tasks/86967/anonimal-s-kovri-full-time-development-funding-thread
15:57:09 <CuriosityNOW> this was funding for kovri?
15:57:32 <angrymonkeyboi[m> <charolastra "didn't he get filthy rich and de"> I've seen the hourly rates of people working on the community projects. Nobody is getting filthy rich based off of them lol
15:58:52 <charolastra> Total cost: 7245 XMR
15:58:54 <charolastra> well
15:58:59 <angrymonkeyboi[m> 4 years ago*
15:59:22 <charolastra> soon before ATH of like 400 bucks
15:59:57 <charolastra> would make it 2,8 million dollares
16:00:23 <charolastra> but no idea how much he actually got end the end
16:00:47 <CuriosityNOW> let's talk how much is actually done?
16:00:48 <selsta> monero price around that was < $10
16:01:35 <CuriosityNOW> and possible estimate how much it would need to complete the project?
16:01:43 <CuriosityNOW> in XMR
16:01:47 <selsta> no
16:02:07 <selsta> projects like this are never "completed"
16:02:36 <selsta> also there is no point in funding kovri if e.g. i2pd exists
16:02:48 <charolastra> ^^^
16:03:35 <onf> selsta: then why didn't Monero just adopt i2pd?
16:03:50 <selsta> i2pd was dead during the time kovri got funded
16:03:57 <selsta> the dev left for a year or so
16:04:03 <selsta> and later came back
16:04:15 <selsta> so kovri forked from i2pd
16:04:33 <onf> sure, but after kovri was abandoned, why wasn't i2pd adopted?
16:04:43 <selsta> adopted in what way?
16:05:35 <CuriosityNOW> one might say
16:05:35 <CuriosityNOW> https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/tag/2.37.0
16:05:38 <CuriosityNOW> this works?
16:05:42 <onf> iirc kovri was supposed to be shipped with Monero as another way to additionaly increase privacy
16:06:47 <selsta> monerod supports --tx-proxy now and a user can choose i2p-zero / i2pd / tor themselves
16:07:21 <selsta> don't know if monero will ship with one of them in the future, not clear yet
16:09:44 <selsta> shipping the GUI with tor might be more realistic
16:09:53 <SleepingShell> Anyone here run monero in a container? It's looking like the xmrto is my best bet
16:10:19 <lza_menace> aye
16:10:44 <lza_menace> i have a docker-compose file that builds the container rather than pull from a public repo
16:10:46 <lza_menace> https://github.com/lalanza808/docker-monero-node
16:11:13 <lza_menace> one dockerfile does a full compile, one just fetches binaries
16:11:56 <SleepingShell> Oh wow grafana too, nice
16:25:58 <yanmaani> CuriosityNOW: answer first what you are trying to accomplish
16:26:01 <yanmaani> that is the better approach
16:31:15 <CuriosityNOW> i've invested a lot of money into xmr coins
16:31:17 <ozwrfajfrpm> I think everyone here knows that most Monero exchange withdrawals and desposits are traceable (Breaking Monero - poisoned outputs). How does it feel to go out and lie to people that they are private and then earn less than holding BTC on your bag?
16:31:24 <CuriosityNOW> next reasonable thing is to invest into technology
16:31:37 <CuriosityNOW> around monero
16:33:11 <CuriosityNOW> + i know and believe privacy is all we have
16:33:21 <CuriosityNOW> i been around 10-15 years
16:33:32 <CuriosityNOW> i saw recently fud that was spreading against monero
16:34:19 <sech1> Always has been
16:34:33 <sech1> fud spreading I mean
16:34:58 <CuriosityNOW> from what i've seen so far these years
16:35:13 <CuriosityNOW> more and more funds are invested into spreading fud about
16:35:16 <CuriosityNOW> privacy projects
16:35:47 <CuriosityNOW> newbie users have no idea what's happening
16:35:55 <CuriosityNOW> how reddit is flawed
16:38:06 <onf> the whole Web is flawed
16:40:03 <CuriosityNOW> the quality will win at last
16:40:25 <CuriosityNOW> and I've put my bets on monero long long ago
16:43:51 <apotheon> Monero is, in some significant practical sense as far as I've been able to determine, the best thing going in privacy-oriented payment systems.  I'm interested, and I'm trying to get onboard in a real way.
16:44:13 <apotheon> That said, I'm not indelibly marking my allegiance for it any more than I do so for other "brands".
16:44:24 <apotheon> If something else becomes better, I might go that way.
16:44:43 <apotheon> I suspect some Monero core devs probably implicitly think that way.
16:45:03 <apotheon> It seems highly likely given the Monero orientation toward practical, effective privacy focus.
16:48:34 <CuriosityNOW> beside that technology is not everything
16:49:01 <anon_CWEJRrIS> I'm working on a reddit alternative.
16:49:19 <CuriosityNOW> monero is lacking some business strategies
16:49:29 <anon_CWEJRrIS> Not getting much traction, but it's brand new
16:49:34 <anon_CWEJRrIS> https://github.com/t-900-a/gemmit
16:50:05 <anon_CWEJRrIS> upvotes are xmr transactions
16:50:39 <anon_CWEJRrIS> gemini://gemmit.mooo.com
16:50:56 <anon_CWEJRrIS> Pretty rough right now and requires a gemini web browser
16:51:47 <apotheon> CuriosityNOW: I think the business strategies are for users to undertake, unless you mean something other than what I think you mean by "business strategies".
16:52:30 <anon_CWEJRrIS> It's like saying e-mail needs a business strategy. Monero is supposed to be a privacy protocol and not a scam coin.
16:53:12 <CuriosityNOW> pointing to mass adoption
16:53:20 <CuriosityNOW> I see more and more wallets which is good thing
16:53:21 <onf> anon_CWEJRrIS: Thanks for sharing, this looks interesting
16:54:19 <CuriosityNOW> for me monero is not a coin, it's philosophy
16:57:36 <CuriosityNOW> and true financial privacy, thanks all the people who worked on monero project
16:57:45 <CuriosityNOW> great work so far guys
16:58:06 <onf> CuriosityNOW: what kind of philosophy is Monero it to you?
17:00:08 <CuriosityNOW> in technology we trust? decentralization
17:23:21 <f3r0x> how can i, as a layperson, know that there are as many monero in existence as ppl say there are?
17:24:43 <apotheon> f3r0x: I don't know technical details, but in principle it should be readable from the blockchain.
17:24:57 <apotheon> f3r0x: The blockchain is, after all, effectively where all Monero true reside.
17:24:58 <moneromooo> print_coinbase_tx_sum 0 <recentheight>
17:25:10 <apotheon> ah, there we go
17:25:26 <moneromooo> It'll take an hour on SSD :)
17:25:36 <apotheon> zoiks
17:25:47 <apotheon> wait, allow me to rephrase
17:25:53 <apotheon> gadzooks
17:26:06 <f3r0x> basically wondering what advantages btc has over xmr
17:26:13 <f3r0x> other than brand power
17:26:13 <moneromooo> Holy overclocked ryzen batman!
17:26:26 <moneromooo> Way more hash power.
17:26:41 <moneromooo> Way more places where you can use ui.
17:26:48 <moneromooo> Smaller txes, faster to verify.
17:27:02 <apotheon> moneromooo: err
17:27:13 <lza_menace> f3r0x: depends on what you value in a crypto
17:27:31 <lza_menace> after using both xmr and btc i personally prefer xmr
17:27:34 <apotheon> moneromooo: Oh, I think I get it.
17:27:58 <moneromooo> s/use ui/use it/
17:28:13 <apotheon> I misinterpreted the bit about smaller transactions.
17:28:50 <moneromooo> Well, I've seen a claim that using coinjoin to get some privacy ends up with about the same size as a monero tx. Dunno how close that is.
17:34:12 <as2333> what's the deal with the claims about homomorphic encryption now being some kind of commercial product? Would that mean it should be 'easy' or efficient to create any sort of cryptosystem (including money) ?
18:01:41 <lord_fomo[m]> >  what kind of philosophy is Monero it to you
18:01:41 <lord_fomo[m]> don't let bankers print money for their pals
18:01:45 <lord_fomo[m]> and/or socialism for the rich is dumb
18:02:26 <lord_fomo[m]> the rich like to pretend that most money is made taking risk but really it's the exact opposite
18:02:33 <lord_fomo[m]> it's about getting let into the money printing club
18:03:11 <lord_fomo[m]> and that outcome is exactly due to centralism
18:06:36 <apotheon> For me, Monero is more like a tool for implementing a philosophy than a philosophy itself.
18:12:53 <jonah_xd[m]> I think every coin is a philosophy of its own
18:15:02 <lord_fomo[m]> just wait till we can run nodes on space servers
18:43:03 <hyc> homomorphic encryption isn't a silver bullet. it may let you generate txns that don't need range proofs I suppose
18:43:10 <hyc> but not much else improves
18:47:39 <as2333> hyc I thought it meant you could perform arbitrary operations on encrypted data. So you can have an encrypted database whose integrity can still be verified, which is more or less what a crpytocurrency is? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding something basic (quite possible)
18:48:04 <SleepingShell> Damn syncing on HDD really *is* slow
18:50:04 <burp> good luck with that, I'll talk to you in 2022 ;)
18:51:40 <hyc> nah, it'll only take ~6 months on a raspberry pi with HDD :P
18:53:31 <hyc> as2333: just having an encryption cipher doesn't ensure the integrity of a DB. you need crypto signatures too, none of the other requirements change at all.
18:57:56 <as2333> hyc, yes - my bad, you still need signatures, a decentralized consensus, etc, but if all operations are done on encrypted that, then privacy should be (much) better?
18:58:17 <as2333> on encryped data*
18:58:33 <Monerian> is it possible to run more monerod(monero nodes) one one server?
18:58:42 <Monerian> and what would be needed to make that happen?
18:58:51 <Monerian> two chain directories?
18:59:06 <moneromooo> Yes, and different ports.
18:59:42 <hyc> you can run multiple servers on the same blockchain DB
18:59:50 <hyc> but why would you want to run multiple nodes?
18:59:56 <Monerian> oh this is misleading now
19:00:01 <hyc> on the same box that is
19:00:14 <Monerian> can run two monerod on same directory?
19:00:18 <Monerian> thing is that I see
19:00:21 <Monerian> after some time
19:00:26 <Monerian> connections
19:00:29 <Monerian> to monero network
19:00:32 <Monerian> get really low
19:00:41 <Monerian> like 1-2-3-4 connections
19:01:15 <Monerian> so idea is to run few monerod
19:01:17 <Monerian> servers
19:01:21 <Monerian> and route them differently
19:01:41 <Monerian> trought world make it more connected
19:01:45 <Monerian> to monero network ?
19:02:13 <selsta> probably better to find out why connections get low instead of running 2 nodes
19:02:58 <selsta> any other issues you noticed?
19:03:13 <apotheon> Is it related to bandwidth?
19:03:20 <Monerian> i am using tor for outgoing connections
19:03:36 <selsta> using --tx-proxy or with torsocks?
19:03:36 <Monerian> and bandwith goes like 1-10 KB/s
19:03:48 <Monerian> system wide proxy
19:04:03 <Monerian> but would now use balancer
19:04:15 <Monerian> to mix few proxies and few tor socks
19:04:25 <Monerian> it's obviously some nodes
19:04:28 <Monerian> don't accept tor
19:04:52 <Monerian> aka after sometime monerod doesn't sync
19:05:56 <Monerian> > can run two monerod on same directory?
19:06:04 <Monerian> or to use two dirs?
19:10:12 <moneromooo> It's supposed to be able to run twice on the same db.
19:10:38 <hyc> must admit I haven't tested that in quite some time
19:10:56 <hyc> but it was working before, arbitrarily many monerod's on the same DB
19:11:33 <Monerian> they wouldn't corrupt each other?
19:12:10 <moneromooo> In theory, no.
19:13:30 <hyc> now that txpool is also in the DB I can't think of any info they could get out of sync with each other
19:15:56 <SleepingShell> Man taking me almost an hour to sync 2k blocks
19:27:29 <Monerian> whatever I try
19:27:33 <Monerian> I get  Error starting server: Failed to bind IPv4
19:27:38 <Monerian> even port is different
19:28:50 <moneromooo> All three ports ? Are you really sure ?
19:30:07 <Monerian> which other beside ? --rpc-bind-port 5632
19:32:23 <moneromooo> p2p port, 0mq port. See --help.
19:35:10 <Monerian> it's up
19:35:20 <Monerian> --zmq-rpc-bind-port
19:35:27 <Monerian> --p2p-external-port
19:35:34 <Monerian> --rpc-bind-port
19:35:56 <Monerian> bless now I got some connections
19:35:58 <Monerian> haha
22:07:29 <neosimulation[m]> test.
22:15:17 <Bill48105> icles
22:15:53 <DisBotXMR> <TrooperZ> https://www.thisworldthesedays.com/uk-professor-cracks-monero-and-its-transactions1.html
22:22:21 <devbordecraft[m]> Nice DisBotXMR
22:23:33 <charolastra> lol, good that it starts muted
22:24:49 <lza_menace> i was on a sales call lol
22:25:16 <lza_menace> did def not start muted
22:25:19 <lza_menace> *for me
22:27:21 <rupee[m]> finally I've got tangible results from having google/youtube blocked in my firewall
22:45:26 <ubwctjaep> Do you also secretly wisth your mother was Howard's groupie? https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/bxl87y/it_has_been_a_5_years_since_monero_was_released/eq7qior/
22:56:18 <lza_menace> not sure if this site has made the rounds here on IRC yet: https://moneroj.net/
22:57:47 <rupee[m]> very nice. I had seen the S2F chart, but didn't think to go to the homepage