00:07:31 ndorf: You're awfully helpful, by the way. Thanks. 00:07:40 . . . but it broke again. Fuck. 00:08:55 Oh, wait. This is a damned out of memory error again. 00:10:08 I think I did stuff in the wrong terminal emulator. 00:10:15 I'll kick myself later. 00:19:42 kick yourself immediately 00:20:11 no time 01:03:13 failed to store wallet meh? 01:03:16 what is it? 01:03:24 using seed phase and gui wallet 01:03:44 a day full of adventures :) 01:07:07 dunno whats u[ 01:08:14 Probably no space on device, no write permissions on that directory, exiting file from another user, that kind of thing. 01:08:26 At a push, out of memory maybe. 01:08:37 If a really large wallet. 01:15:14 well it is a gui wallet 01:15:27 hmm 01:19:25 fck 01:19:50 file not found tmp monero core 01:20:32 ok fixed yet a bit funny :D 03:15:45 Hello everyone, mmm okay. On Thursday I was speaking with someone and we got into the conversation of the messages that were being posted with my username here in element and the IRC channels. I opened my element app, made a search for the messages searching my username (lh1008), found the last one posted in March 11th and when I tried to forward the message I posted it in the monero community IRC channel. Rehrar just 03:15:45 approached me asking if I was posting those messages before and well, I'm not involved on those messages. Rehrar also told me that I had to give an explanation to the community, so, here I am. If anyone has any questions let me know. If I answer late please bare with me, I have been pretty busy and I can't be very active as usual. You can reply to this message so I can respond to any questions. 03:15:45 Thank you for your reading. 03:17:50 lmao 03:18:58 these spam bots are so brutal 05:55:01 lh1008[m]: I have a question - do you feel you were "savagely attacked" by the Monero community at some point? 06:10:42 kek 06:22:44 ndorf: By the way, it compiled. I'm reading up on stuff now to make sure I don't screw up what I'm doing before I try running it. 06:22:47 . . . but first, sleep. 06:22:50 g'night 06:31:26 later 06:32:53 apotheon: w00t. 06:32:57 glad to hear it 07:36:46 I can tell you why you can't stop the 'spam'. You are thinking in cult doctrine. If it was real spam, and I was selling Viagra for example - you could easily ban keywords and urls. Instead, stop being a sheep, think like a cult leader. Recoginse that this 'spam' is just some bullshit that you tell to the sheep. 07:36:46 When you do that, solution will present itself. Observe. 'spam' -> 'FUK talks bad things about Monero on our IRC' (Don't say that out loud obviously, that will get you excommunicated) Solution? Get off-the-shelf sentiment analyser, detect anyone who 'talks bad things about Monero' and ban them. 08:51:55 lets fucking goooooo 08:57:20 Line go uuup 09:20:24 Stablecoin pumping 09:51:39 does it require high speed internet to run monerod locally for monero-wallet-cli? 09:52:09 No. 09:52:49 monerod warns about rotating drives. do i necessarily have to use ssd to run monerod? 09:53:28 They're a lot better. Once you've synced the chain though, a HDD should keep pace just fine. 09:53:39 only if you don't like pain (= waiting ages for it to complete) 09:53:43 The initial sync is very painful on HDD though. 13:34:24 I've seen a couple of times that the question of how well Monero would withstand a 51% attack - possibly especially in light of the examples of big hashrate spikes from someone using cloud servers ... 13:37:08 is it possible to make a fork of monero that is instant and feeless like nano, but keeps the privacy 13:37:32 Define "instnt". 13:37:50 well, 1 second or less for the funds to arrive and be ready to spend 13:38:09 this is the coin im talking about 13:38:10 v 13:38:14 https://nano.org/ 13:38:16 didn't nano transactions take multiple hours recentlyv 13:38:18 ? 13:38:23 due to a spam attack 13:38:23 yeah cuz of spam attack 13:38:32 because there are no fees it is trivial to spam 13:38:47 It's possible, but it's fragile. 13:39:43 Wait. Arrive in a second, yes. Given good enough connectivity. Ready to be spent in a second, no. 13:39:43 monero is a cryptonote coin, correct? 13:39:48 But within a couple minutes. 13:39:51 Yes. 13:48:56 quite different from original cryptonote by now though 14:12:33 are fees set in the code or how are they calculated 14:14:30 isn't that a dynamic free market thing? that's why BTC and ETH fees go through the roof anytime the blocks are full 14:20:27 In theory, it is. But since there's no contention, the fee is whatever the min is in practice. It's a formula based off the block reward and block weight. Details in the commit message that added them. 15:00:17

No. I felt pressure but I think due the circumstances it's a normal feeling. 15:15:31 lh1008[m]: What kind of pressure? (if you don't mind sharing) 15:28:20 Why does the Saviour of NASA take a group achievement award and present it as a proof of individual glory? twitter.com/hyc_symas/status/1203709575226183683 15:28:43 I wonder how much money that guy is spending on his botnet 15:56:00 Should be buying XMR instead 16:13:30 Maybe he's buying XMR and spending it on the botnet rental so it won't be traced. 16:31:46 lh1008[m]: thank you for replying 16:41:42 heyho, I want to start mining monero and im not sure about the budget i should put into the rig. What budget and which cpu would you suggest using? (i'm aiming for something around 3k usd). Thank you in advance :) 16:42:47 Ryzens are good. 16:43:07 People in #monero-pools should have good advice. 16:43:14 Also bad advice. 16:47:36 smly0108[m]: guess the sweet spot right now is at Ryzen 3900X. the 5 lineup is much too expensive 16:48:29 but recouping the imvestment will be tricky 16:48:36 but even a single 3900X will just pull ~0.15 XMR/month so you should do your ROI calculations 16:48:41 Thanks for that one :-) I'm in :) 16:48:48 also, fast ram is rrcommended 16:50:08

only at the current price point :) 16:50:34 ah, an optimist :) 16:51:00 yes, sir :-) 16:51:03 (or rather delusional lunatic :p ) 16:51:16 16:43 < moneromooo> Also bad advice. 16:51:23 (standard disclaimers apply) 16:53:42 i dont think so... XMR is implementing good stuff and is lagging far behind, compared to other coins. fees are sweet and privacy should always be focused :-) even if its gets banned on some US-Exchanges... who cares, its crypto, its worldwide (: 16:54:44 you're certainly right and our suicide cult believes in it. but meanwhile whe're getting fucked by it crabbing sideways 16:55:08 smly0108[m]: it might still make more sense to just buy :D 16:55:51 but at least the 3900x can be repurpised if you stop mining on it 16:56:00 be happy about it, gives us more time to put more fiat into :P 16:56:03 repurposed* 16:58:10 xmr is one of 4 coins i do hodl. all others are just for trading against btc. So i love to see it stagnating, which gives me time to allocate more :) patience pays out :) awesome project and only fud news :-) 16:59:00 get it over with so we can mars already! 17:00:07

i think that counts for all cpu's... which is why i like the idea of cpu mining much more then gpu and this cmp-electronic-garbage after use 17:12:57 hi, is it possible to run full node via i2p and tor in the same time? 17:14:24 Couldn't you run two nodes -- one accessible via i2pd and the other with Tor -- off the same blockchain instance? 17:14:39 (I'm not an expert. I'm asking because I'm genuinely not sure.) 17:18:24 don't you have a virtual interface set up for your daemon which it listens on? then it shouldn't care where you route it to (although no idea if i2p works like tor) 17:52:53 yes, you can run a single monerod on both i2p and tor at the same time 17:53:36 and yes, you can run two monerods on different networks off the same blockchainDB at the same time if you want to 17:53:50 but there's no real need for that now, given the previous fact 18:15:24 hyc: good to know; thanks 18:20:39 Dude. https://twitter.com/francispouliot_/status/1376576385666400264?s=19 18:22:56 lol 18:22:59 so simple 18:23:36 tho I thought Liquid was supposed to supersede lightning 18:24:07 very simple: https://youtu.be/RBOqfLVCDv8?t=10 18:24:27 at least one person was sane, asks "what is the fees" :P 18:25:13 an arm and a leg 18:28:44 lol 18:30:35 liquid is used - and controlled - by some exchange mafia. 18:34:41 did coinbase already do their public offering? is the LTC washtrading scam going to affect them? 18:35:14 jeebus, Twitter hijacks the space bar sometimes 18:35:16 WTF 18:35:33 zero sympathy for anyone using twitter :P 18:35:47 har 18:35:59 What about people using Twitter to try to lure people away from it? 18:36:04 come on, the Suez Canal memes all this week were worth it 18:36:10 you may be interested in https://github.com/zedeus/nitter 18:36:41 there are a few public nitter instances like nitter.dark.fail or you can just host your own 18:36:48 I don't know about the 'ipo', but the funny piece of news about shitbase is that they paid a 'fine' to their govt accomplices (6 millions) so that they can keep commiting their crimes unmolested. 18:37:22 wow a paltry $6M for all the crap they pulled 18:37:31 hehe 18:37:35 a bargain! 18:37:48 coinbase is doing a direct listing i think, not an IPO 18:38:40 hyc, thank you 18:38:47 as a potential investor who only cares about ngu, would the LTC scandal be more, or less attractive to you? 18:39:08 there's an LTC scandal? 18:39:16 something other than it's scandalous that LTC is still around? 18:39:19 LTC wash trading on coinbase 18:39:29 less, because they paid that fine to a regulator that had no oversight. the CFTC does not regulate spot commodity markets. 18:39:53 it shows that they are regulated even by regulators that have no oversight 18:39:55 jesus what a circus 18:40:08 the "concurring" opinion is worth reading 18:40:59 the Order and the Concurring Statement are in the links on the right under Related Links: https://cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/8369-21 18:41:38 wait, if CFTC has no jurisdiction then why did this even get investigated? 18:41:49 exactly! 18:42:05 https://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/SpeechesTestimony/stumpstatement031921 18:42:40 notice in the Order, they repeatedly call spot crypto pairs "contracts" 18:42:46 as if they are derivatives, which the CFTC does oversee 18:51:50 hmm. that concurring stmt amounts to "nobody regulates these exchanges, caveat emptor" 18:52:31 makes it all the more damning that exchanges don't list monero - clearly there are no govt regulators pressuring them 18:54:22 It just seems like Monero does it all. I feel that it is only inevitable it is #1 market cap in the future, even if they start banning all crypto in the US. 19:10:04 entry1[m], what do you mean "does it all" ? 19:12:38 Fungibility, low transaction cost, stealth addresses, more diversity across mining with RandomX, incentives for future miners, and multiple functional open source wallet apps. I don't see how Bitcoin truly can compete, or any other crypto for that matter. 19:13:30 Already delisted on many exchanges and that hasn't deterred demand/pricing significantly 19:15:27 makes yah wonder 19:23:56 Sure, Monero has all that entry1[m]. But it doesn't have NFTs. 19:25:56 Yeah we need some asap. That's definitely the move. Have you seen the audio NFTs? They will be worth millions some day /s 19:26:43 XMRKittens 19:30:53 thanks to NFT Science you can trade digital cockroaches now 19:31:14 At least provide the link for us all so we can buy some, selfish. I'll use some of the Tether I'm HODL'ing for it 19:31:14 Yes! buy tether! Unlimited Tether Works! 19:31:33 pixel roaches? 19:31:49 My impression, given the lower volatility than the "big kids", is that Monero's value is more likely to grow with currency use than speculation use -- which I consider a feature. 19:31:54 !quote 19:31:54 Random quote (#1514): <-- asymptotically (~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically) has quit (Quit: Executed for war crimes) 19:32:02 great quote 19:32:53 RIP asymptoti. He was a real one 19:41:25 can i have monero bitcoin and eth on ledger at the same time? 19:43:29 !quote 19:43:29 Random quote (#516): if you change 2 letters and delete 1 letter in word AEON, you will get ETN 19:49:18 entry1[m], as2333: I can't wait for the NFT fad to die 19:49:20 it's so dumb 19:50:21 NFTs are dumb? https://mobile.twitter.com/Pringles/status/1372242606902673409 19:55:11 Dude, fucking stop. The prices are going to skyrocket. I already bought 8 flavors 19:55:39 lol 19:55:54 https://nitter.1d4.us/jonty/status/1372163423446917122?s=09 19:55:58 re: NFT ^ 19:58:14 leonardus, yeah me too. But people seem to be getting dumber by the day, so who knows... 19:58:58 lza_menace color me unsurprised 19:59:18 lza_menace: Good thread, really confirms my suspicions. 19:59:35 the best threads usually do :D 20:00:18 confirmed: good threads are those that confirm our suspicion 20:00:57 Yeah, I was thinking recently that unless an NFT is actually storing the data on the blockchain, it's really nothing more than a certificate. 20:02:08 It would be interesting to see NFTs stored on the blockchain, but with the privacy features of Monero 20:02:17 It's a choice between persistence and bloat really. 20:03:00 private titles to physical items especially (not necessarily large media files) 20:03:19 You don't need a blockchain for that 20:03:25 the concept of physical ownership already exists 20:03:29 which is why this is stupid 20:03:46 trustless title database 20:04:42 This can fairly trivially be done, and the referenced image is just flavour. It going poof doesn't invalidate the rest of the data. 20:05:05 (in general I mean, not with monero in particular) 20:05:12 moneromooo: The image is the "value" of the NFT though, isn't it? 20:05:22 Sure you have metadata, but what use is that 20:05:22 I couldn't say. Baffles me too. 20:05:43 Well, if the item is the title, then... this is hte use ? 20:05:58 you guys are just salty you didn't think of selling NFTs of your farts or some red pixel. i'm too.... 20:06:18 Having the ability to spend/transfer the item is proof of ownership of an item in the real world. 20:06:37 mooo is baffled as well? I feel better now 20:06:37 Or just plain collection. People like to collect physical stuff too, and these often don't bring anything either. 20:07:41 I looked into NFTs a few weeks ago, and it's really just that. Include an IPFS link. So yes, the craze is baffling. 20:09:12 I need to learn how to do it though so that I can help my wife sell some digital artwork before the craze dies off. 20:09:28 Though something good came of it. I had wanted to look into IPFS for ages and never could be bothered ^_^ 20:10:31 don't some site not even have IPFS store? 20:10:32 Is that different than Sia? 20:11:09 Sia is a different concept than IPFS 20:11:40 Sia has incentivized storage mechanisms in the protocol layer, whereas with IPFS Filecoin is built on top of it 20:16:28 thanks SleepingShell 20:27:14 lvl 200 trolling https://twitter.com/CameronRuggles/status/1376225212195250176?s=19 20:33:51 Hey guys. Wanted to run this by you rather than create a Reddit thread - as I'm probably missing something. Have heard Bitcoiners talk about how Scnorr/Taproot will increase privacy. However I was strugging to understand exactly how. I think some of you follow Bitcoin developments also? So I *think* I get it now... it will work by “hiding” multisig transactions on chain - such that they look the 20:33:57 same as normal Taproot transactions. 20:33:59 So you wouldn’t be able to tell if a transaction was a CoinSwap or interacting with the Lightening network. 20:34:02 Whilst that indeed seems like an improvement… presumably you’re still left with any flaws in CoinSwap / Lightening etc? 20:35:37 "increasing privacy" with Bitcoin isn't all that meaningful. you can increase from zero quite a bit and still end up with a very low number 20:36:18 Won't disagree. Was just keen to try and understand the nuance of their "argument" 20:36:30 john_r365: yes, that's the gist of it. It also makes it cheaper. 20:36:45 If you have some advanced coin swap thing, you only need to pay the tx fees for a normal-sized transaction. 20:37:10 dang 20:39:09 thanks @yanmaani 20:40:15 what do you think of the idea/tech? 21:16:31 hmm - maybe the so called NFTs are based on PoI (proof of insanity) 21:21:49 I don't know how the tech itself works. I only used ipfs so far. 22:29:21 a/wb 22:29:25 feh 22:41:32 “I thought, ‘I’m going to pump it and dump it,’ because I was interested and taking the ideas and implementing them in bitcoin. The bitcoin code base was far more interesting to me than monero, and I thought, ‘I’m not going to work on this codebase, it’s terrible,'” he recalls - fluffypony in an interview about Monero