00:01:49 maybe 00:02:04 seems to me most people who trade it have no clue what it is 00:04:56 Wait 00:05:15 Everything makes so much more sense 00:07:08 ArticMine: thanks for your correction and work with monero 00:07:43 M4268583364[m]: How? 00:08:50 I just figured out the relay thing 00:09:08 To the discord server 00:10:31 He just sold out why Monero is crucial lol. Wonder what these huge data analysis companies do for anything other than Bitcoin lol 00:11:06 hi 00:14:12 It brings me great pleasure to know that chain analysis ceos lie awake scared of monero 00:16:26 what are everybody’s thoughts on mimblewimblecoin 00:19:12 ok im back 00:19:13 alive 00:19:19 i overheard someone comparing it to monero this morning saying it’s superior 00:19:21 question 00:19:43 whats the fastest way to transfer the blockchain from my laptop to a server 00:19:48 or should i just sync for 4 days again 00:20:19 not in the tech, but they said mwc’s security is good enough and they would give up a little bit of security for scalability 00:29:42 https://youtu.be/KpS_McVLxvs 00:29:42 How the fuck do these moonboys invest so much into crypto without learning what the hell a utxo is.. 00:51:22 Should I get a ledger nano s or a trezor t or the base model I can't remember the name of 00:52:34 I know it's not a good investment for my few (<20$) coins, but I'd feel better by having them in a physical wallet 00:56:26 Should I get a ledger "> I've been having a good time with Ledeger Nano S + Monero GUI 00:56:35 Ledger* 00:56:48 but for $20 of crypto? 00:57:11 oh, I didn't read that - CakeWallet then 00:57:16 buy more crypto with the money spent on a hardware wallet 00:59:39 Guess I can just use my gui on desktop then It's just figuring out how to spend my (very limited) budget 01:04:11 I know it's not a good"> Just use a cold storage, view only wallet. No need for a hardware wallet for your use case 01:04:27 * usernetinternet[ uploaded an image: (133KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/qWpgUKPuvoinsVADRkxoPFZn/IMG_20210415_020418_642.jpg > 01:06:37 Gotta love it. Have to abandon every crypto project that the government can't spy on 01:06:47 Aka 1 01:07:34 So I could just get a piece of paper with my 24 or whatever words on it and a usb with the stuff on a text file Put them in a bank safe and forget it exists and when I remember I have a wallet in that bank withdraw my funds and get lunch? 01:08:34 Encrypt the text file with the usb before putting it into a bank 01:08:56 Yeah probably better 01:08:59 If crypto becomes common knowledge, someone could come across your seedphrase 01:09:09 They'd still have the plaintext on paper 01:09:21 Then wouldn't it be a bad bank 01:10:02 Yeah, i got around having to store my seedphrase by writing it in an encrypted form using vanity address generators on the bcash chain 01:10:24 Know everyone who runs a bcash node stores it for me lol 01:25:13 that's fucking retarded 01:25:45 if you can store your encryption key, just do that normally 01:26:37 Too shizo for that 01:30:54 you need to have a handle on your threat model, first of all 01:31:09 but the situation in which storing something on the bcash chain beats storing it on your computer is unfathomable 01:31:25 I guess my philosophy is that an immutable ledger is the perfect place to store data 01:31:57 like, if "write the private key on a piece of paper and keep it in a drawer" isn't good enough for you, you have a real situation there 01:32:11 and it's the sort of situation you need the big guns for 01:32:26 multisig and safe deposit boxes and stuff 01:32:36 and if you don't have a situation, well then what's the point? 01:32:40 you're just jacking off 01:34:19 Unfortunately i educated those i live with about private keys/seedphrases and i cannot trust them so i needed encryption on it 01:34:40 * Unfortunately i educated those i live with about private keys/seedphrases and i cannot trust them so i needed encryption on it 01:34:40 Cant store on any local media through fear off loss of data or wrench attacks 01:34:40 Wont store online for fear of metadata association glowies 01:34:50 * Unfortunately i educated those i live with about private keys/seedphrases and i cannot trust them so i needed encryption on it 01:34:50 Cant store on any local media through fear off loss of data or wrench attacks 01:34:50 Wont store online for fear of metadata association glowies 01:40:48 get a safe? 01:41:02 store it online somewhere accessed with tor? 01:41:11 storing it on the bcash blockchain is peak retard 01:42:38 At that point engrave it in your foot /s 01:45:29 ouch 01:47:35 So far my funds are not drained, my biggest fear about it is that someone does statistical analysis on all addresses on the chain and determimes the characters in the addresses are outside normal distribution and investigates further lol 01:49:34 Plus it is cheaper than cloud storage lol, one tx fee for permanent storage 02:00:03 why is this room "#monero:matrix.org" and not "#monero:monero.social"? also, what's the difference between this and "#freenode_#monero:matrix.org"? 02:01:24 Matrix is bridged to a Freenode IRC channel. Other than that, I have no idea. I'm in IRC here. 02:03:12 What is "monero.social"? 02:03:42 it seems there's an official matrix server hosted on monero.social 02:04:52 https://forum.monero.space/d/79-how-to-join-the-monero-core-team-matrix-server-web 02:06:28 * there's an official matrix server hosted on monero.social 02:50:12 kek nice nick eh 03:00:36 hi, quick nooby question, what's the less expensive and proper way to buy some monero? Swapping alt coins is fine ? 03:03:51 BTCisMyFavNFT: Nice nick! 03:04:10 BTCisMyFavNFT: Do you wear that in BTC channels? 03:09:30 rob99: an exchange like binance or kraken that has the alts that yoy want to use, You would have to go alt>btc>xmr but the fees would probably be lower than swap services that go alt>xmr 03:10:32 I don't use the swap services such as sideshit and changenow so no idea what the fees are 03:10:50 whoops sideshift lol 03:15:51 Thanks for the reply, I'm struggling with one thing: by doing alt>btc>xmr, each transaction + withdrawals to wallet has fees, so it would be more expensive than directly buying on kraken, regardless of the conversion rate? (fiat>xmr or just alt>xmr) 03:18:45 I think that most tx fees are not bad except for btc 03:19:42 there are extra trading fees for alt>btc>xmr but should all still be cheaper 03:21:21 my last btc withdrawal from an exchange was ~$20 and for xmr it was almost nothing 03:22:06 Are trading fees always cheaper when you do crypto>crypto ? Still learning sorry 03:22:48 they should be listed on each exchange so you should be able to figure for your usecase 03:23:25 I'll keep an eye on that, thanks for your help :) 03:23:31 yw :) 03:24:34 again haven't used swap services in a while but their rates are usually worse and there can be fees as well, not always easy to figure 03:25:06 you can start a trade without completing it to see I guess 03:25:53 yeah I checked some swap services and it's definitely not the best 03:38:24 send litecoin to cake and then covert on cake to XMR 03:39:35 yeah cake looks good for that 03:58:20 bobbieweirder[m]: rob99 cake uses changenow so exchange rates are fees are ???? 03:59:06 so although easy you are paying the extra to use the swap service 04:08:56 yeah unfortunately. there are going to be fees to on ramp one way or another so you just have to look for the easiest and relatively cheaper way. converting BTC gets expensive quickly so i would definitely look at alternative pairs. i also use kucoin since i already have assets there, but i would still have onramped from fiat to USDT somewhere else so you’d still be paying 04:08:57 fees twice that way 04:10:17 on an exchange going from alt>btc>xmr there are no btc fees 04:10:44 it is 2x trading fees which will probably still be cheaper 04:11:59 I am on trade ogre which has low fees and they charge 0.2% trading fee 04:12:23 0.4% has to be way lower than any swap service 04:13:15 yes sorry that’s right. i was thinking about the fiat on-ramp only. i use CB to get USDT and i still gasp everytime i see those fees 04:13:16 they have somewhat limited trading pairs 04:13:53 trade ogre does? 04:14:05 so again find the exchanges that carry the coins you need and see what the total cost is 04:15:13 trade ogre has less coins than binance if that's what you are asking 04:15:32 they do however have wownero :D 04:16:38 again all the info is out there so it's now just a matter of looking for what you specifically need 05:13:48 The KuCoin interface is too complicated for new users, I think. 05:38:17 Stop trolling the banking system 05:50:37 Howard, you know why all the 'Titanic intelligence Saviour of NASA' posts stopped last year? They know you are an embarrassment. Your arse didn't learn anything new in 25 years, and that includes C++. They just can't say it to your face. 06:07:52 whos they 08:20:51 apotheon, I get banned 08:21:19 it's their fav NFT too but they wont call it that 08:27:27 bitcoins still somewhat fungible 08:36:51 http://ibarajztopxnuhabfu7fg6gbudynxofbnmvis3ltj6lfx47b6fhrd5qd.onion/r/Bitcoin/comments/mqz567/wtf_75_billion_in_stolen_bitcoin_from_the_2016/ 08:36:59 check the (not ironic) comments 08:37:04 lol.. 08:37:06 long way to go still 08:40:38 interesting 08:40:48 should have waited for monero atomic swaps? 09:07:14 louipc somewhat is kind of an exageration 09:07:30 I mean, everyone has the right to have their favorite NFTs anyway 10:46:53 Who cares if someone buys overpriced digital "modern" art 10:47:16 The seller. 10:50:49 Sad 10:52:09 lol moneromooo 10:53:52 jonah_xd[m]: good question. I don't also understand the point of NFTs at all :) 10:55:57 Maybe the same reason why an original painting is worth much more than a good copy which noone but a team of experts can tell apart. 11:01:55 hmmp: i see it as digital pokemon cards but custom made 11:05:30 pretty good on btc and fungibility and a touch on monero https://twitter.com/DontTraceMeBruh/status/1382643158966800385?s=19 11:06:51 the traditional art market is basically just rich people's way to transfer money to each other. I make some insider traiding based on your tip and then I buy a painting from you for suitable price. your painting is stored in Geneva warehouse with million other paintings and it never leaves the place, just ownership changes. I guess you could use NFT for this same but in that case it's a mistake to think that 11:06:57 NFTs have any value. nobody's buying your original doge art unless they own you 11:09:33 money laundering? 11:13:26 Or: brilliant strategy by NS to bring the word 'fungible' out there? 11:41:50 Can you guys suggest a chatroom where there are crypto daytraders? 11:42:01 I had 4 bottles of wine yesterday and ripple XRP is going to give me a heart attack I swear. 11:49:24 #monero-markets 11:49:35 4 is a bit much. 11:51:51 even my alcoholic friend usually just does 3 on the weekends 11:52:54 that's the good thing about not being an alcoholic, 1 glass on an empty stomach gets you fucked up 11:53:31 money saving tips from azy 11:54:14 frugality and health at the same time 11:56:25 azy I agree 11:56:28 its waaaay too much 11:56:38 coincidentally I found this article yesterday when I was utterly smashed. 11:57:06 https://www.foodandwine.com/news/man-drank-4-bottles-wine-every-day-and-lived-107 11:57:15 absurd. Jean Calment became 122 but only drank 2 glasses a day 11:57:47 lol charolastra_ ya I've been binging since the start of february i've spent every last penny I own on booze. 11:58:07 i quit my job and am back at university. :( LOL 11:58:42 maby you should have spent it on coins instead 11:59:06 hey y'degenerate. stop 11:59:17 at least youre not sniffing i suppose 11:59:47 ah hes a winemaker, that'll keep you young. in the sun looking at your grapes, good exercise squishing them with your feet 12:00:13 whaat, i thought the squishing was done by virgin girls!!! 12:00:26 * charolastra_ throws away all Barolo bottles 12:05:06 I can't seem to join #monero-markets 12:07:20 i suppose I should have bought coins. I was actually making my own in start Feb. but I've gotten so rattled from the booze that I haven't touched terminal CLI since the start of Feb. bit of a breakdown actually aha. so foolish and now if I dont have a drink i start to shake like a leaf. I'm such a whinebag atm :( 12:08:30 did you know that you can die from alcohol withdrawal? not even heroin does that 12:09:03 sniffer: making your own wine? :D i did that recently too (and some cider). it was surprisingly edible 12:11:35 no i only grow my own shrooms :) now winemaking i can give you a tip on how to age wine 12:12:20 put it in a container with 1 part wine: 9 parts air. closed. Leave it in there for 3-12 months. I think even though, 1wine:5 air volume will help, but the wine partially oxidizes and it speeds up the aging process, I've had 1 year bottles taste like 40 year old wines... 12:12:32 it was a freak discovery during lockdown when alcohol was banned here :) 12:13:41 hi, charolastra_ thank you I know. I feel this electric tingling and i start shaking and I've had severe chest cramps (they didn't last very long). The other day I only had like +- 2 bottles and i had this major cramp thanks for warning / reminding me. Yes I realise that, I want to quit but now I literally am stuck and want to stop but can't I can barely tie together an essay which I'm supposed to do now. 12:14:23 if i drink a little i dont spaz out but my functionality is destroyed. Sorry I'm ranting I've had a glass of wine " a glass" more like "a few swigs of swill" 12:14:37 Reminds me of John Steinbeck's novel, "Cup of Gold". SPOILER ALERT. 12:15:17 how can I join monero-markets, it says "cannot join nick/channel" must I register my nick? 12:15:28 did you forget the leading #? 12:15:31 /join #monero-markets 12:19:09 I'm in there but it says "can't post" 12:19:12 I saw you join the chan 12:19:14 tell me about this wine and cider asymptotically... i have an apple tree 12:19:27 register with freenode maybe 12:20:00 yes I must register my nick / nickserv but I forgot how 12:20:06 nick sniffer 12:20:12 nick 12:20:28 aa srry good people. you work so hard to see an idiot stagger through your hallowed vaults. 12:21:44 https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration 12:23:23 you should grow shrooms instead but shroomery's been down for almost 2 weeks now. 12:23:29 was a bit shocked to see 12:26:09 .faucet 12:26:11 Mochi101: Triangle is how many sides? 12:26:16 3 12:26:16 Mochi101: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000004 XMR to Mochi101 [f0805130] Wait ≈23 hrs 57 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01599547 12:26:52 a triangle actually has 6 sides 12:26:58 because you have to count the inside and te outside 12:27:01 that is 2x3 12:27:03 HAHAHHA 12:27:06 srry 12:27:22 what're you sniffing? 12:27:24 don't forget thatr all important convex polytope 12:27:38 the inverted external shape of any object... 12:28:06 what if the 'lines' are made of round pipes though? 12:28:20 would you have infinite sides? 12:28:50 by definition a side is finite. 12:29:08 i had this idea a while ago. imagine if you had a sphere with say 100 meters radius 12:29:12 then another one with 10 km radiusd 12:29:22 you take a 45 degree arc of those two sorry, CIRCLES. 12:29:40 sniffer, it's only a matter of granularity 12:29:59 granularity? 12:30:10 like the larger sphere's outer edge would look less round. 12:30:26 if it has an infinite radius the circumference should be a 90 degree tangent. 12:30:38 that arc's curve would flatten out. 12:30:45 a pity about maths 12:30:53 How long is the shoreline of Great Britain? 12:30:59 longer than my penis? 12:31:11 hey, you started this 12:31:16 :D 12:31:30 granularity... 12:31:43 that is such a strange word 12:32:21 like what if all facets are so perfect tey're not facets? like, is a true sphere a collection of infinite bezier corner nodes or SMTH? infinitely densely packed with no space inside the triangles? 12:32:33 i mean where does reality stop calculating the resolution of reality? 12:32:39 what is god's gpu? 12:32:48 "god" 12:33:56 i mean so innumerable that they become "perfect see drunk" - see omg 12:33:57 OMG 12:34:00 sniffer, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3W2wMS15SY 12:34:04 i gotta quit 12:34:25 .faucet 12:34:25 sech1: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in? 12:37:18 so if you get metaphysics do you get metamathematics? 12:37:34 well well well. 12:39:37 .faucet 12:39:37 sniffer: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in? 12:39:40 :( 12:41:42 .tip hmmp 1 12:41:43 hmmp: Ooops! Not enough in your balance.. 12:42:11 .balance 12:42:11 hmmp: • Your balance is: 0.00036 XMR (≈0.12 USD) 12:42:19 .tip all hmmp 12:42:20 Mochi101: User 'all' not found on 'freenode'. Either they don't exist or they don't have an active bot account 12:42:25 .tip hmmp 0.0001 12:42:25 hmmp tipped 0.0001 XMR (≈$0.03) to hmmp [87a9514f] 12:42:28 .balance 12:42:28 hmmp: • Your balance is: 0.00036 XMR (≈0.12 USD) 12:42:30 .tip hmmp all 12:42:30 Mochi101 tipped 0.0000111 XMR to hmmp [3306cb22] 12:42:41 cool thanks 12:43:24 No problem, just remember that I did that for you if you ever see me sleeping under a bridge with a drug needle in my arm. 12:44:03 lol 12:46:23 .faucet 12:46:25 azy: Of 9 ? 0, which is 9 12:46:28 9 12:46:28 azy: @bonuspot tipped 0.000015 XMR to azy [6ac6f77b] Wait ≈23 hrs 58 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01598047 12:46:34 forgot to do that yesterday 12:46:38 .balance 12:46:38 azy: • Your balance is: 0.0001789 XMR (≈0.06 USD) 12:48:34 .faucet 12:48:34 hmmp: Of 6 <-> 3, which is 3 12:48:46 hmmp: Oops that is not correct. Try again later. (No not immediately or I'll just ignore you..) 12:49:02 :| 12:50:04 is it possible to trace the Ip address of a BTC wallet or a transaction? 12:50:22 my brother who works at the London Stock Exchange (who had NOOO clue about cryptos0 got robbed of 2 mighty BTC. 12:50:51 I fllowed the transactions and hey ho, what did I find, a wallet with 90 BTC, 128 BTC, and another one with 1600 BTC connected to the transactions 12:51:04 the wallet with 1600 BTC has had 133 000 BTC through it... i was like eeeh. o kay. 12:51:18 some scammer has $96 million... 12:52:05 i am so sorry your brother got robbed. was it a phishing scam? 12:52:30 Im not sure what the term phishing entails but yes he was foolish enough to hand over his trades to some person from Linkedin. 12:52:35 if only he'd spoken to me... 12:52:55 cost him 16 000 GBP (british pounds). lol to think I bought BTC for $400. (already ludicrous in the eyes of many back then...) 12:52:58 celsius fell victim to a phishing campaign yesterday too. scammers these days are really sophisticated 12:53:07 these guys are cloning another exchange 12:53:26 *have cloned and are using it. 12:53:54 but ignorant enough to blatantly lie in a live "support chat"... 12:54:01 which is what i find very "off" 12:54:33 not sure if you guys know "bit exchange systems? https://bitexchange.systems/ 12:55:08 also what's odd is I mean the interface the fonts, CSS, looks so much like the cloned site. is it an ex employee, or a really dilligent con-artist... 12:59:05 it's not robbing if there's no violence involved. sounds like your brother is just a fool 13:01:30 i don't think he is a fool but i think he was foolish and foolable (fallible?) :) 13:01:52 true, true. no he wasn't robbed. 13:02:15 but Zizek talks about "abstract violence" for example gandhi was a passivist but he commited great "violence" against the british empire. 13:02:27 LinkedIn? bruh 13:02:37 lol 13:02:50 crypto has gotten so huge the learning curve is going to be really steep for many people 13:03:01 "violence" against the british empire.?? wtf 13:03:05 I vaguely know what phishing means but I cannot pretend a specific knowledge of the scope of the definition. 13:03:12 that is sad, bobby. 13:03:21 people literally get phished everyday. everyone just needs to be a lot more vigilant 13:03:32 They did peaceful protests in India (Mahatma Ghandi) and in sodoing gained independence through peaceful protest = abstract violence 13:03:39 phishing: you throw out a lure (mass email) and hope someone bites 13:03:45 insomuch as the British empire lost an entire sub-continent. 13:03:53 aah. No it wasn't phishing in that case. 13:03:54 I've never been tempted to hand over financials to anyone on linkedin though 13:04:03 he was looking for someone to help him trade in cryptos. 13:04:05 that place is sheisty as fuck 13:04:08 fuck it you know if he'd only contacted me lol 13:04:14 We rarely speak so it was like OH. 13:04:20 on linkedin though? 13:04:21 why there of all places? 13:04:28 I have no idea. 13:04:35 sniffer a phishing scam is when someone uses social engineering. meaning they’ll send you an email/message/text or even call you pretending to be a legitimate service and ask you to log in or enter your seed phrase 13:05:06 i'm sorry for his loss, that is truly fucked up 13:05:09 I am under the impression as he works at the LSE that he thought he required a "crypto-trader" to trade FOR him .. or smth. 13:05:11 sad 13:05:26 he is not a trader himself... 13:05:31 a manager of a certain department i shan't name :) 13:05:40 compliance? 13:05:52 crypto department? 13:05:54 sounds like something a person in legal would do... 13:06:02 they aren't the sharpest 13:06:05 lol 13:06:11 paint by numbers guys usually 13:06:29 there’s a lot of money to be made so scammers are really sophisticated. a lot of times they would have gotten people’s personal information from a hack and will email only customers of a service. if you are not paying attention to the links or email addresses it’s very very easy to fall victim to it 13:07:08 scammers have been cashing out during this pandemic 13:07:11 on all fronts 13:07:16 Yup 13:07:18 i’m constantly paranoid these days. just don’t be the low hanging fruit. never give away your seed phrase from a prompt from someone’s communications 13:07:28 LOOK AT THE LINK/EMAIL ADDRESS 13:07:40 to make sure it looks exactly the same as the official one 13:07:57 Is there any actual reason one would need to use their seed other than to use a wallet? 13:08:00 it's really not hard hand email has been around for decades. you'd think that people would know by now 13:08:39 for example, the Celsius scam yesterday came from a link that’s [abc]wallet.com when the real link is [abc].com 13:08:52 yes please send me your bank pin - heck just send me your money, and invest it for you and get back to you - OK just give me a second ~ 13:08:55 jeremih: it's the same fools that fall for "hi, i'm your bank and we need you to enter your password in this link" 13:09:25 Well they don't 1) make an email 2) we're contacting you about your car's extended warranty 3) send monero pls Is that the process? 13:09:26 but he is in that sector so they have that old-school mentality I think... 13:09:41 averse to computer sciency stuff 13:10:33 Why would "he" be using monero when "he" doesn't know how to use it 13:10:43 but sometimes it’s like an email from your bank saying something like “Chase Bank: You have a secured email. Please log in here to view.” and people will click on the link and log in. 13:11:09 I was asking about monero seed stealing works 13:11:39 But yeah 13:12:24 it works the same general way. Instead of asking for password to be entered in a fake site it asks for your seed 13:12:25 what is 'celsius'? 13:12:54 it’s a staking service. people put some crypto in there to earn yield 13:12:59 ah 13:13:04 a crypto bank 13:13:23 ironically the kind of service that bitcoin was create to make redundant 13:13:29 banks... 13:13:35 * ironically the kind of service that bitcoin was created to make redundant 13:13:47 Centralizing cryptos that were made to be decentralized 13:13:57 debt is older than money itself. it’ll always exist 13:14:19 not debt but banks and centralized repositories of money 13:14:36 'be your own bank' 13:14:46 was what I can recall hearing about 10 years ago 13:15:55 i read this book called Debt: The First 5000 Years by David Graeber who’s an anthropologist. really interesting if you want to check it out. it gives another perspective on the concept of money 13:16:37 I'm familiar with David Graeber 13:17:29 I was asking about mon"> people have downloaded fake wallets from apple store, so naturally they were trying to access their wallets. lo and behold the wallet app just ran with their money. this is one way. i’m sure they get a lot more creative than this 13:17:47 does anyone here know SIA? 13:18:21 what’s that sniff 13:18:23 i mean you have bittorrent (pirate bay etc.) right so why TF would you pay for decentralized storage on SIA? its absurd. someone justify it to me 13:18:29 decentralized blockchain storage... 13:18:34 you have to pay "gas" too 13:19:15 bittorrent isn't storage, just transfer 13:19:17 https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/siacoin/ 13:19:30 yes but those files are scattered on countless hosts' computers, also. 13:19:32 if you upload something to tpb and nobody else wants it, it's still just on your computer :) 13:19:34 decentralized. 13:19:55 are they like a ... centrepoint for connecting torrenters? 13:20:05 so strange. imagine a piratebay coin 13:20:07 ^ win 13:20:12 RAT coin 13:22:13 mmm I see there is no rat coin yet how sad andn neglectful. To think I cloned a coin and named it TRUMP coin 2 years before some scammer made a TRUMP shitcoin and made a few milluion bucks before disappearing off the radar for good. 13:23:51 good for them 13:39:33 gullible! 13:39:34 oh whoops my message history hadn't quite caught up 13:39:34 this makes no sense now 13:44:25 There are multiple psychological hooks to keep Monero community members in place. Here is one: 13:44:25 https://vimeo.com/272691039 13:44:25 Notice that Scientologists don't stand on street corners saying "Would you like to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Xenu?" 13:44:25 Put yourself instead in the shoes of someone who spent $10,000 and 2-3 years of their life on their courses 13:44:25 And you get a bunch of bad sci-fi - you have two choices: 13:44:48 aaaah c'mon don't leave us hanging like the other one 13:45:06 what are the choices man! can't wait for the reveal 13:46:24 damn, I'll never know what these choices are 13:48:15 are you guys excited for monero’s birthday? seven years! 13:48:30 NO! i would have been excited but these damn choices are on my mind now! 13:48:36 the only thing i feel excitement for is the big reveal 14:14:47 https://www.monerooutreach.org/stories/monero-atomic-swaps.html 14:24:00 got this thing bothering me 14:24:13 help appreciated 14:24:27 way to verify/check that outgoing transactions is made will wallet-rpc to some address? possible? 14:24:46 address seems to be stealth and can't compare them 14:24:55 or can outgoing transctions be labeled for later check that it was sent? 14:32:46