00:51:25 Almost everything is red on kraken, should I assume this is going to be a dipping day? 00:53:59 Boomer coin shit itself 01:01:28 .val xmr 01:01:28 Bill48105: XMR -> USD • Avg: ≈341.2 • ccc/OKEX: ≈$342.79 24HΔ: -4.35% Vol: 28.68K [< 1m] • cmc: ≈$339.6 24HΔ: -8.02% 7DΔ: 3.66% [< 14m] 01:01:31 .val btc 01:01:31 Bill48105: BTC -> USD • Avg: ≈56715.88 • ccc/lmax: ≈$56858.81 24HΔ: -4.06% Vol: 1.9K [< 1m] • cmc: ≈$56572.94 24HΔ: -7.08% 7DΔ: -5.88% [< 14m] 01:01:49 could be worse :D 01:29:04 monero honestly is popping back up 01:29:11 its already going up a lot recently 01:29:23 but it dropped to like 320 last night already recovered to 340 01:40:27 Hi all, I'm running the latest version and have a fully synched node except i've noticed that my monero daemon randomly crashes (i leave it on overnight and come back to find it stopped). Where can i find the log files which might point to the source of the error? Thanks! 01:41:22 OS? @DisBotXMR 01:41:29 windows 01:43:18 which version? 01:43:31 2021-04-19 01:26:38.439 I Monero 'Oxygen Orion' (v0.17.2.0-release) 01:43:35 ok 01:43:54 problem is windows does not have any crash logs 01:44:23 that's unfortunate, are there any flags I can run the deamon with that'll help? 01:44:34 Is windows doesn't produce .bitmonero/bitmonero.log @selsta ? 01:45:11 yes it will keep monero logs there but they usually aren't helpful during a crash 01:45:20 I meant something like a linux backtrace 01:45:24 Not sure if this is a bug but if you send a tx to one of your subadresses in the same wallet on the gui it only reports the tx being sent and not being recieved in the transaction tab, balance is fine tho 01:45:29 i see 01:45:32 Latest update mac 01:45:48 volantaryism1[m]: sending to your self is 1 outgoing transaction 01:46:08 the change goes to yourself so no incoming transaction 01:46:18 👍 01:46:18 it's just how monero works 01:46:32 hennyh: when did the crashing start? 01:48:34 So the last crash happened 'last night' (it's 9am-ish now), in the log i found the following entries: 01:48:39 log 01:48:39 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/620459189097201669/833519433267413022/message.txt 01:49:40 then the previous day (on the previous release) it just shut off during the day, but I can't find anything in the logs around that time 01:50:29 Got control signal 2. Exiting without saving 01:50:51 usually that means it got a termination signal from outside and not a crash? 01:51:30 hmm i've got it running at the moment, i'll wait to see if it happens again 01:51:47 bit hard to diagnose anything without logs, don't want to waste your time 01:58:12 there might be ways to get logs on Windows but I'm not familiar with it :/ 01:59:10 all good, i'll just keep a record of the times/recent log entries if it keeps happening. If/when it happens a couple of times i'll post in this channel 01:59:59 🤷‍♂️ perhaps log level 2 might shed some light 02:01:18 i see 02:03:12 hey how do ya change the fee in the gui? I'm getting "fee too low" to send anything out 02:07:42 @search joseph holt 02:08:14 floam412: that sounds weird 02:09:16 you usually should not have to change the fee 02:10:03 floam412: Can you go to Settings -> Info and post which "Version" and "wallet mode" you are using? 02:13:02 selsta, all good... for some reason it ended up just confirming anyways :shrugs: 02:13:15 weird error... never seen that before 02:13:26 weird 02:19:32 It's late, but it's here: 02:19:32 https://sethsimmons.me/posts/this-year-in-monero-2021/ 02:19:32 Going up on Twitter shortly, please DM me if you see an issue or know something that should have made the cut! 02:29:36 sethsimmons: nice writeup 02:29:59 Thanks 🙂 02:33:19 Thank you @sethsimmons . I have a question, how much storage needed to store those monero metrics from 2019 until now? 02:33:55 I gathered most of them via monero-blockchain-stats which works against any node. 02:34:06 (not sure if full vs pruned matters) 02:34:24 https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/4694 02:41:00 I see, I love to see how monero grow over time. Just a few hours ago, I collect metrics from GitHub and r/Monero subreddit https://i.imgur.com/ohcbgRy.png 02:41:42 But, it's seem bots and spammers ruin it's "organic" value =( 02:49:13 I love how this ^ is our problem, and not botmining anymore like the good ole days 02:49:52 who gives a fuck about our image... we made it this far by being pesky criminal aiding tech geeks 02:54:50 Image matters to those you regulate 02:56:07 idk... if you wanna go down that route, you want to explain to said Mr. Monopoly suit guy why you are aiding criminals by hiding their amounts... oh no? What about our image?? 02:57:21 floam412: monero is not aiding anyone 02:58:01 An overzelous regulator wont kill monero but they could damage its potential 02:58:58 hrmm... idk about that https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PopularInfantileAlaskankleekai-size_restricted.gif 02:59:27 floam412: getting monero banned of all exchanges would do a lot of damage 02:59:47 fuck the suits 03:00:05 These regulators are cancer - i am not supporting them, i am just saying you cant pretend they dont exist 03:00:06 worrying about what the suits do defeats the purpose of crypto 03:00:45 if I ever feel like that, I would be doing all my business with Bitcoin, because that is easier to comply with regulation 03:01:04 I'm in monero because I feel that I shouldn't have to justify any of my transactions ever 03:01:32 You should always worry about what a goverment can do - just look at the 20th century... or any other 03:02:01 but like... why are you here tho?? 03:02:06 mad profitz? 03:04:00 floam412: to starve any state of resources it uses to oppress by not engaging with its monetary system as much as possible 03:04:23 monero being banned on all exchanges could actually be a good thing - less exposure to crypto mania 03:04:33 floam412: For me, Monero is not always taking profit. 03:05:13 DisBotXMR: bad for adoption is bad for the currency 03:06:22 adoption would come from actually exchanging it for goods and services, which would improve its currency properties 03:06:51 rather than predominantly exchanging for local currency at exchange 03:06:58 Explaining how monero solves a solution to a problem that people dont even know exists is hard enough, getting delisted would make that much harder 03:07:48 DisBotXMR: its a chicken/egg scenario - no users = no goods and services = no users 03:08:51 Monero does have a lot of real world exchange, regardless of gov approval of such goods 03:09:32 yeah you're basically bartering with Monero, but people would only want it if they're convinced of its utility - the utility may become more apparent with increased income tax, wealth taxes, surveillance, etc... which is the way things are tranding 03:11:42 Dont forget inflation tax and tax bracket creep ontop of that 03:12:45 very good point, hidden inflation tax will be a big one 03:14:27 * volantaryism1[m] uploaded an image: (74KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/BBUIJDPhZWGbXLlZBQphCQro/IMG_20210411_223506_772.jpg > 03:14:34 Memes are good for adoption 03:17:26 WrappedXMR is also good for adoption, it gives a lot of traders inital exposure to monero when they wouldnt encounter it otherwise 03:17:26 I know this is controversial as it removes xmr's privacy 03:17:56 It also locks up a lot of monero too 03:19:35 what is wrappedxmr? 03:22:05 floam412: 'wrapping' monero onto another blockchain by e.g turning it into an ERC-20 token that is redeemable for an equivalent amount of xmr 03:22:58 Wrapped xmr allows for decentralized xmr loans/lending/buying on ethereum or any other chains defi ecosystem 03:23:43 ah i c 03:23:47 Having xmr more avaliable to defi would help protect against exchange delistings 03:25:57 So far i am only aware of this https://twitter.com/BTSEcom/status/1346800594808406016 03:31:00 Hey guys did you hear about the new D.E.E.Z. protocol that monero will be adding, and do you know what it is? 03:33:12 tell me how to get out of income tax. i'm listening 03:33:20 0-0 03:35:50 Step 1: be billionaire 03:35:50 Step 2: ?????? 03:36:28 step 2 could be something like move to an arab country. i hear that some of them have no income taxes 03:45:57 Why does the Saviour of NASA take a group achievement award and present it as a proof of individual glory? https://twitter.com/hyc_symas/status/1203709575226183683 04:50:19 how to get out of income tax HA 04:50:24 do everything in cash 04:55:21 if you bought a house or a car with cash wouldn't the government find out about it? 04:58:02 how do you run that blockchain-stats 05:12:54 I think the best would be to open up a foundation, depending on the local legislation, many foundations have little or no government insight. 05:13:04 The foundation of being XYZ 06:45:41 the real trick to getting out of income tax is to open a S-corp and hire an accountant 06:46:11 heh 06:46:45 or i dont know.. get a plane ticket to the cayment islands and getyourself a bank account rofl 07:05:55 DisBotXMR: Is that a Part of the New Unified Transaction System? 07:08:30 Trooperz ^ 07:29:55 If only one of you gave Papa ChooChoo some TLC when I wrote a faster miner, instead of ignoring him, things could have happened differently https://np.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/5lsfgt/_/dbz0jnp/ 09:17:30 Is using a ledger nano s to store monero good for privacy? 09:17:38 And security? 09:18:07 Or just having the recovery seed on paper a better idea? 09:26:05 For normal use, I would not think it changes much for privacy. Unless you're worried about your family. 09:26:25 Or people who can be in your home. 09:27:56 Ok makes sense just wanted to get an opinion because i have one lying around 09:28:51 Im going to try and practice and put to memory my seed 09:29:14 brain wallet! 09:29:17 Thats probably the most secure lol 09:29:19 bam! 09:29:28 Love the brain wallet 09:30:36 it's cool but I always worry that the risk of forgetting your brainkey becomes worse than the risk of a materialkey falling into the wrong hands 09:32:29 Yeah i will have a backup of course! but really try and keep the brain wallet as the main 09:33:15 And put the paper backup somewhere safe. 11:20:56 :) 11:26:49 I think I reported 20 spammers by now 11:29:24 Thanks :) I'm probably past 50 easy :P 11:39:15 Hi 11:39:28 Can anyone recommend any good desktop light wallets? 11:39:29 hi 11:39:35 Mymonero ? 11:39:50 It doesn't run with the canonical daemon though, it's got its own. 11:40:42 Thank you 11:40:45 bootlegbilly: I think the "official" wallet is pretty good too 11:41:11 @mechanist[m] I know, but sync takes forever :( 11:41:25 Feather wallet also. 11:41:39 oh, even with the remote node thing? hmm 11:42:12 If you use third party nodes, you're at the mercy of them though. They can't steal your money, but they can spy on you, and genreally DoS you. 11:42:52 If you can sync on a SSD, it's *massively* faster than HDD. 11:43:39 took me half a day on an SSD a few days ago 11:45:28 @mechanimist what 11:45:32 whats the remote node thing? 11:45:55 @moneromoo very true, I just need a quick transaction 11:46:03 And sadly Im an hdd user 11:46:24 i just meant not running a local node and instead using the wallet to connect to a remote node that you... trust... for reasons 11:48:03 Oh alright 11:48:13 Ill look into that, thank you! 11:49:49 bootlegbilly: The wallet comes with a pdf guide, you can look for "remote node" in there 11:50:15 Thank you again! I appreciate it 12:02:37 - `monero-blockchain-stats`, using some hints from the following link for plotting: 12:06:22 sethsimmons: ok cool so it is an executable that exports data 12:07:44 Yes, it's part of the CLI download for Monero. 12:10:58 If you find out what it does, feel free to add it to a README in the src/blockchain_utilities directory, because I forgot what half of them do :D 12:11:28 In fact, they might well be best removed. Some of them were made for MRL purposes but that was probably more of a one off usage... 12:56:18 ok thanks 13:36:18 Is there a supposedly objective comparison of beam and monero available? 13:44:12 Is there any documentation on which daemon rpc methods are restricted by `--restricted-rpc` and how? The official docs (https://www.getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/daemon-rpc.html) don't seem to mention it 13:45:43 git grep MAP_.*_IF.*restricted src/rpc/core_rpc_server.h 13:46:28 There are a couple more things, mostly adding sanity limits to things like get_outs.bin IIRC. 13:59:40 dang, BTC blocks times are so crazy since this reduction in hashing power 14:01:23 Thanks moo 14:02:02 utxobr: miners went offline like 3 hours after difficulty adjustment 14:02:34 scary 14:03:24 utxobr: incoming long blocktimes are a good thing from maxis 14:22:32 781 MB / 300 MB mempool 14:22:40 180,405 TXs unconfirmed 14:22:50 * sethsimmons < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/EQtAmCXwxdzqpPausCUyLUqo/message.txt > 14:22:54 Insanity 14:23:13 predicted -38% diff adjustment because of a Chinese gov inspection 14:23:16 so decentralized 14:23:57 https://mempool.space/ 14:24:04 241 sat/byte in the last block 14:25:29 gotta <3 gemini not charging fees 14:25:37 (despite having the txn taking forever to confirm) 14:25:50 spam^ 14:25:54 Will you HODL XMR or dump it for Tari when it comes out? Will others? 14:26:30 * gotta <3 those not charging fees 14:26:35 updated ;) 14:26:40 > <@freenode_sech1:matrix.org> spam^ 14:26:40 * updated ;) my bad 14:26:55 no, I wasn't pointing to you 14:28:59 sethsimmons I think it's a best time to troll BTC maxis on twitter 14:29:55 I mean, their diff adjustment didn't change at all. Why would they think it's perfect and shouldn't be changed? 14:30:37 bad diff adjustment + fixed block size = disaster when hashrate drops 14:31:35 Cheap Transactions! Fast confirmation times! Come and get your crypto transactions confirmed! Cheap transactions! Fast confirmation times! 14:32:18 Like this?https://imgflip.com/i/56a3j6 14:34:05 Maybe. I have bad imagination 14:35:06 Also, 10 minute blocks are not good for fast diff adjustments. You need many blocks to get a good estimate of network hashrate. 15:48:48 Is Dr. Daniel Kim a scammer? 15:49:07 You missed the question mark. 15:49:19 RIP 15:49:21 too late 15:49:40 rottenwheel cursed me last night to flawed grammar and punctuation. 15:49:51 Not the real one afaik, but there could be scammers who try to impersonate him 15:49:55 am i the only one frequently getting "Unable to send transaction(s) to tor - no suitable outbound connections" when trying to use tx-proxy with the default seed nodes? 15:50:07 Punctuation? 15:50:16 All I see is a lack of question mark. 15:50:31 That's bad punctuation 😢 15:50:50 Oh. 15:50:57 But I see no grammar problems. 15:51:10 Yeah 15:51:15 Thankfully 15:51:39 Adam Back thinks Monero is a shitcoin. Should I listen to him? 15:52:38 No. 15:53:08 Why not? He's a smart dude. 15:54:36 ndorf: yea I get that too occasionally if I don't add a priority node 15:54:56 there still is a bug somewhere probably 15:55:16 https://twitter.com/adam3us/status/1384033845125664774?s=20 15:55:17 if I add 2 priority nodes it is quite stable 15:55:55 selsta: where do you find nodes to add, just fellow ircers and such? 15:56:00 i wonder if sethsimmons runs one :) 15:56:48 I do expose Tor RPC on my public node: https://sethsimmons.me/about/#high-performance-monero-nodes 15:56:49 But not p2p 15:56:58 rbpgdckle3h3vi4wwwrh75usqtoc5r3alohy7yyx57isynvay63nacyd.onion:18089 15:57:17 ndorf: can send you a couple I run 15:57:33 ndorf: I assume you allow incoming connections? 15:57:39 How's everyone doing today? 15:58:04 selsta: i allow incoming clearnet connections, haven't set up tor yet. i'm also not sure if i'm supposed to be allowing both tor and clearnot on the same node? 15:58:14 clearnet* 15:58:56 (i'm somewhat new at the tor stuff, in case that's not obvious) 15:59:03 hmm weird, usually if you don't allow incoming tor connections it should be stable without adding any priority nodes 15:59:07 what is the output of print_cn 15:59:11 does it show any tor peers? 15:59:43 just one, state = before_handshake 16:00:36 43 INC IPv4, 12 OUT IPv4, plus that one 16:00:41 how long is the daemon running? 16:00:53 tor itself does work, as evidenced by url --proxy socks5://localhost:9050 https://ifconfig.me 16:01:19 i rebooted ~40m ago, prior to that it was up for weeks with the same situation 16:01:39 url=curl btw 16:02:34 now my before_handshake peer is gone, and i have no outbound tor 16:03:16 which tor version? 16:03:33 0.4.5.6. 16:04:13 guess i'll try upgrading to .7. pity to lose such a sweet version number though ;) 16:04:54 dogegold: he is the ceo of a company that sells a side chain to btc 16:04:54 Less people using btc = less need for his sidechain 16:04:59 * dogegold: he is the ceo of a company that sells a side chain to btc 16:04:59 Less people using btc = less need for his sidechain 16:05:02 try adding v2jikw3aklmego53cmg5zb5yjh2z27dkx3ydepbcdtbhqdolnz3u26qd.onion:18083 as a priority node 16:05:27 will do, thanks 16:05:44 Btw if you look at a liquid network on a block explorer ther is like 1 tx per hour 16:06:05 Mempool.space/liquid 16:06:19 * Btw if you look at a liquid network on a block explorer there is like 1 tx per hour 16:07:13 selsta: thanks, that one seems to work straight away. immediately shows up in print_cn as 'normal', and stays there 16:07:26 we might need more seed nodes, not sure 16:09:26 selsta: is it recommended to accept clear and Tor P2P connections to the same node? or should it be just one or the other? 16:10:35 I don't see anything speaking against it 16:10:55 I run clearnet / tor / i2p with incoming and outgoing all on one node 16:11:38 from that thread it doesn’t seem like he is interested in talking about the technological aspects, just the social aspects of how people/investors interact with it. unfortunately the market doesn’t always immediately value tech by merit. 16:11:52 i guess it would be possible to "deanonymize" the hidden service, or associate the hidden service with the public IP address? 16:12:40 i suppose that might not matter, even if true, as long as the client stays anonymous 16:14:30 vtnerd can probably answer that better 16:14:47 dogegold: if the premise is if not BTC or BTC-denominated then = shitcoin, then there’s really not a lot of room for discussion 16:15:01 I run my nodes with the priority to contribute to the network and not to avoid hidden service / ip linkage, someone else might have other priorities 16:16:12 sorry if this is a dumb question, but is there a reason you don't add your node to the tor seed nodes? what is the requirement to be a seed node, anyway? 16:16:22 (is it just "be available most of the time" or what?) 16:17:15 I have two tor seed nodes already added 16:17:23 don't want that all tor seed nodes are mine lol 16:17:36 gotcha :) 16:18:02 i'll add tor p2p to my hosted node, was wondering if i should think about trying to get it added as a seed node once it's working 16:18:25 would be nice to have this tor stuff working "out of the box" 16:59:01 am i blind, or does the GUI not have a function to import_outputs ? i see offline signing, and key image export, but no output import 17:05:34 Possibly it assumes you never get out of sync ? Normally, outputs and key images piggy back on tx data transfers. 17:22:45 in this case the outputs aren't spent yet, OCD me just wants to see the correct balance in the cold wallet. (which i do, just had to use the CLI to import the outputs after failing to find option in gui) 17:24:57 cc selsta, someone else reported this too 17:25:10 what exactly? 17:25:48 selsta: am i blind, or does the GUI not have a function to import_outputs ? i see offline signing, and key image export, but no output import 17:26:04 I don't know :D I'm super unfamiliar with cold wallet stuff 17:26:34 FWIW it seems that the other two functions (key image export, and offline signing) do work :) 18:15:27 hm, interesting. it seems that after using `sweep_single` from a hot/cold wallet pair, that tx doesn't show up in `show_transfers` (in the hot/viewkey-only wallet) 18:15:40 it does correctly show up as spent in `incoming_transfers`. 18:16:07 normal transactions with change do show up in `show_transfers` as well, but not this sweep_single one 18:16:40 You're asking for all txes, right ? Tht is, not "show_tranfers in" or "show_transfers out" ? 18:16:52 yes 18:16:58 monero-wallet-cli ? 18:17:04 Yes. nvm. 18:17:07 yep 18:17:19 this is after exporting/importing all outputs and key images, FWIW 18:17:19 Can you file a bug please, so it doesn't get forgot ? 18:17:52 sure thing 18:28:19 #7673 18:29:57 i notice there's a `rescan_spent` command, but it doesn't seem to do anything. in fact it returns too quickly to plausibly be doing anything :) 18:31:03 it does something in some cases 18:34:16 i'll try to reproduce this with a stagenet wallet and update the issue 18:47:59 It's a quick function. It sends the daemon your key images, and looks them up in the spent key image table. 18:51:16 well, it does seem to know that the output *is* spent (incoming_transfers and balance are correct) 19:00:41 lol. 19:43:23 * volantaryism1[m] uploaded an image: (60KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/LrsUiYSRhdoCmVHZkZeiSpoC/IMG_20210419_204307_715.jpg > 19:43:40 Anyone know who is selling these stamps? 19:45:44 I wish 19:49:16 volantaryism1[m]: https://twitter.com/stampmonero?lang=en 19:49:21 seems to be inactive now 19:52:43 Why should I use Monero when it trends to zero against Bitcoin? 19:53:28 that's the price of club membership 19:53:54 This seems like some confused reasoning. Why should you use food if it's gone once you eat it ? 19:54:01 Just use your brain. 19:54:33 If you meant "why should I stash my money in something htat goes to 0", then the answer if obviously don't. 19:54:34 But why would I hold Monero if the amount of groceries I can buy with it goes down every week? 19:54:55 But confusing usefulness and monetary gains makes no sense :) 19:55:16 Use your brain, I just told you -_- Don't. 19:55:44 cutemountains: even if assuming your premise is true, arguendo, that would be an argument to use monero. nobody wants to spend something that’s going to be worth more tomorrow 19:56:19 You gotta learn to see the world and then apply some thinking. 19:56:42 I get that but why would anyone hold Monero if they can't get rich from the gains. 19:56:44 I mean, I'm not saying to spend months at it. Just small sanity checks. 19:57:03 Do you get rich from holding onto your significant other ? 19:57:20 Well, I dunno, maybe you're that kind of person, no offense. 19:57:31 cutemountains: i would say it’s the same reason people diversify any assets 19:57:41 But if you're here for money and know what future price changes wil be, use it :) 19:57:52 Then you're set for life and you can live :) 19:58:13 And seriously, you should learn to think for yourself. 19:58:23 I can think for myself. Are you a hodler? 19:58:33 remember every breath starts with an exhale, not an inhale 19:59:19 it’s risk management. even if you think bitcoin in the long run will outrun everyone else in the long run, some people may want to hedge by diversifying 19:59:20 Last I checked, Monero is not trending to zero against Bitcoin anymore 20:01:37 It's still mixing things, which typically makes you make bad decisions. I'd try to separate things. Monetary gains/losses in a corner. Other things (like privacy, in this case) in another. etc. Then you can compare. As it is, your question belies confusion due to this mixup. 20:01:57 Until you can separate things and compare, you'll just make bad decisions. 20:02:23 Anyway, that's my being helpful for the day. Back to code we go... 20:02:51 (and btw it's hard to do so, I'm not claiming to be able to do it well myself) 20:03:29 agreeing with moneromooo. many people value monero beyond the opportunity to get rich/big gains. you can value a project even if you know there is $$ opportunity cost to it in the short term 20:05:39 Wouldn't Zcash be safer? 20:07:47 cutemountains[m]: safer how? 20:08:06 What do you guys thinking about ARRR? 20:09:15 ARRR? Trusted setup, largely abandoned by the devs, ASCI mined 20:09:57 3 red flags, combo! 20:10:23 safer in terms of privacy or in terms of market gains? if the idea is to adopt a privacy project, monero is superior being less centralized than zcash. it is faster and easier to use, default privacy (which is more important than people think) 20:10:41 This 20:11:01 if you just want to get your toes wet with privacy projects, invest in both! but i think the more you read the more you will realize monero is much better positioned to achieve privacy 20:11:16 can I set a wallet directory for monero-wallet-cli? 20:11:27 the config file only lets me set a single wallet 20:13:20 ARRR sounded alright at first glance but has serious drawbacks compared to XMR 20:13:25 I want to be able to run something like "monerocli " from any directory 20:13:35 Yeah I agree 20:13:42 without typing the full paths each time 20:15:58 clavi: if you only have a couple wallets you can setup aliases in your shell 20:16:14 you mean a separate alias for each wallet? 20:16:26 yes 20:16:32 hmm 20:17:08 would be neat to have a "--wallet-dir" option in the CLI config file 20:17:17 I'd open a GH issue but they're locked atm 20:18:31 You could make a bash script that only takes the wallet name and appends that to a preconfigured wallet dir, then passes it to the wallet program 20:19:19 clavi: opened an issues for you https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/7674 20:19:31 thanks :) 20:20:53 I want to make a privacy focused dapp with Monero as the main token for transactions. Any examples of Monero marketplaces, usage like Metamask? How to get Monero in Web3? 20:21:42 you don't. afaik you need 'smart contracts' for that 20:25:43 Wouldn't the obvious conversion between non-Monero tokens and Monero in a contract expose your identity? Sucks that you would need to side chain / ETH convert to actually use Monero in a proper application. 20:26:29 Technically there's "wrapped xmr", but yes: since it's an eth-based token, it loses the privacy features of 'native' Monero 20:27:08 Though you may be interested in following the development of Tari (a Monero-based smart contract plaftorm) 20:29:31 You can easily integrate Monero in things that aren't dapps. Not everything needs to run on a smart contract to be "decentralized". Just look at Haveno, for instance 20:30:01 ChristopherTrimb: haveno is a DEX based on BISQ code, with XMR as the base currency. COMIT and FarCaster are true atomic swap projects for BTC <--> XMR (and with Taproot, will be indistinguishable from any other taproot tx) 20:30:02 A well-implemented multisig escrow can get you a long way 20:30:32 no reason why you wouldn't get eth <--> xmr atomic swaps too 20:31:50 Oooh, imagine the potential of eth-xmr atomic swaps in the context of smart contracts 20:32:29 eth smart contract that pays out xmr ;) 20:32:32 (Then again, I guess I'm probably just reimagining wrapped xmr?) 20:32:55 Xmr mining pool that runs on eth :D 20:33:24 Would be cool as a concept, except the gas fees would be obscene 20:36:08 Cool, thanks for the info, I'll look into these projects. Found this on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/m2h8sc/bounty_for_trustless_ethereum_wrapped_xmr/ 20:37:02 Use wXMR and create a bounty on gitcoin lol 20:37:35 Has anyone seen a bookstore for banned bools in XMR? 20:38:31 i.e. dr seuss, pgp, come and take it. 20:39:15 Banned books both from a legal perspective & private book seller perspective i.e. amazon ebay 20:42:21