01:05:54 <swrangsar> does xmrig run on 32 bit hardware?
01:11:01 <Norkle> .faucet
01:11:02 <Wallet> N​orkle: Three Little Pigs + th​eir houses
01:11:15 <Wallet> Norkle: Oops that is not correct. Try again later. (No not immediately or I'll just ignore you..)
01:11:15 <Norkle> 4
01:32:21 <supus>  /exit
01:42:49 <swrangsar> is there any crypto currency that could be mined on 32 bit linux?
01:51:59 <FasXmut[m]> I think 32 bit or 64 bit is not the problem.
01:57:33 <swrangsar> have a spare 32 bit hardware that could be put to use
02:05:01 <apotheon> You'd probably need a huge cluster of 32b Intel x87 CPUs for that to work out.
02:05:06 <apotheon> err
02:05:10 <apotheon> s/x87/x86/
02:24:20 <yanmaani> swrangsar: monero if anything
02:24:22 <yanmaani> give it a shot
02:53:33 <ishikawa[m]> I'm thinking about taking all my other crypto assets and putting them into monero only.
02:53:33 <ishikawa[m]> All these altcoins make my head spin sometimes.
02:59:42 <Kontvolkoren> @ishikawa[m]: I was thinking the same today!
03:00:13 <Kontvolkoren> There's no reason to HODL every shitcoin
03:02:19 <ishikawa[m]> <Kontvolkoren "There's no reason to HODL every "> Agreed! and everytime i make a swap or trade on a KYC exchange...thats a taxable event.
03:02:48 <ishikawa[m]> I like to keep things simple, i dont think i need all these coins
03:02:55 <Kontvolkoren> True that
03:03:25 <Kontvolkoren> So, say you swap everything to Monero. How about taxes?
03:04:05 <Kontvolkoren> You just tell them you spend your crypto?
03:05:52 <ishikawa[m]> Well put it all into monero, im going to report my tax for this year and after that im going to "sell" all my monero.
03:06:11 <Kontvolkoren> Not sure how everything works when it comes to taxes, depends on your country too... In the US you don't have to pay taxes when you're just hodling, right?
03:06:28 <ishikawa[m]> <Kontvolkoren "Not sure how everything works wh"> That is true
03:06:38 <ishikawa[m]> If your making trades your going to have to pay tax
03:06:46 <ishikawa[m]> Well were i am anyway
03:07:10 <ishikawa[m]> I feel they make up the laws as they go along
03:07:30 <nioc> hold more than a year and you pay the lower rate long term capital gains
03:07:31 <Kontvolkoren> Yeah, I believe here in the Netherlands you have to give up the price of your crypto of every 1st of januari
03:07:34 <bobbieweirder[m]> ishikawa: always playing catch up lol people are always one step ahead
03:07:38 <nioc> your state will vary
03:08:08 <nioc> usa ofc
03:09:45 <Kontvolkoren> Ah, it's even different by state
03:10:19 <nioc> I believe most states have an income tax
03:10:23 <ishikawa[m]> I plan to sell off my alt coins.
03:10:23 <ishikawa[m]> And "sell" off my monero.
03:10:23 <ishikawa[m]> And that person will probably put it in cold storage somewhere
03:10:25 <nioc> some don't
03:10:47 <ishikawa[m]> were im from its taxed as capital gains tax
03:10:58 <ishikawa[m]> everytime you make a trade
03:11:02 <nioc> of the ones that do some treat gains as regular income
03:11:04 <ishikawa[m]> has to be reported
03:11:41 <bobbieweirder[m]> ishikawa: just “sell” it at cost basis to said person
03:11:53 <nioc> and in some states some cities have income tax lol
03:12:17 <bobbieweirder[m]> ishikawa: if you are SO UNLUCKY as to lose money on your XMR god forbid then at least you’d be able to get a deduction ;)
03:12:28 <ishikawa[m]> <bobbieweirder[m] "ishikawa: just “sell” it at cost"> Yes, and then said person can use non KYC exchanges from then on out .
03:12:30 <bobbieweirder[m]> or just spend four months in Puerto Rico
03:12:31 <nioc> you might have to report it at fair value
03:13:44 <nioc> even if you gift someone your crypto you have to pay taxes on gains at market value
03:13:49 <bobbieweirder[m]> nioc: he would sell it when XMR dumps
03:14:04 <Kontvolkoren> @nioc: Ugh
03:14:09 <nioc> sounds like someone I knew lol
03:14:54 <ishikawa[m]> <nioc "sounds like someone I knew lol"> Yeah this also sounds like someone i know.
03:15:06 <Kontvolkoren> That's what I hate about crypto and KYC... I mean like, when I give someone some cash as a gift I don't have to report that either
03:15:30 <Kontvolkoren> Or maybe I do, but no one does that
03:15:41 <nioc> you already paid taxes on the cash
03:15:56 <Kontvolkoren> Ah yes, of course
03:16:05 <ishikawa[m]> Yeah crypto tax laws are all over the damn place.
03:16:05 <ishikawa[m]> Particularity were i'm from.
03:16:09 <bobbieweirder[m]> ishikawa: i don’t think “sell” is the right word. you should “spend” it because you might get in trouble for selling it with money service business laws
03:16:49 <ishikawa[m]> <bobbieweirder[m] "ishikawa: i don’t think “sell” i"> oh yes thats what i meant.......spend
03:16:57 <nioc> in the us on the first page of the tax return there is a checkbox asking if you ever did anything with crypto
03:17:12 <bobbieweirder[m]> ishikawa: yes yes yes. def talk to a CPA well versed in crypto
03:17:22 <ishikawa[m]> Same here im my country, apparently there cracking down on it this year hard
03:17:34 <ishikawa[m]> And its confusing alot of people
03:17:58 <ishikawa[m]> <bobbieweirder[m] "ishikawa: yes yes yes. def talk "> Will do ;)
03:18:24 <nioc> talk to 2 people and get 2 different answers :D
03:19:16 <bobbieweirder[m]> nioc: yes. at least in the US the tax person just needs to be able to make a legally justified position, and reasonable minds differ on tax ref interpretation
03:19:26 <Kontvolkoren> So yeah, here in The Netherlands you can only have to report the price of your crypto once a year, you give the price what it was on January 1st. If you spend your crypto before that date, you don't have to declare it
03:19:28 <bobbieweirder[m]> so def shop for answers lol
03:19:38 <nioc> hopefully by now there is more guidance and agreement on what is correct
03:20:18 <bobbieweirder[m]> Kontvolkoren: stimulate the monero economy!!🥳
03:20:54 <nioc> wealth tax
03:21:07 <Kontvolkoren> I have never really thought of it... And it makes my head spin
03:21:42 <Kontvolkoren> Also, I don't feel like they need to know I own crypto
03:21:54 <Kontvolkoren> But yeah, I did KYC in the past...
03:22:00 <bobbieweirder[m]> nioc: i wish i were rich enough to hire one of those cryptonomad guys
03:22:43 <ishikawa[m]> I think if you KYC in the past you can still get "out" right?
03:22:43 <ishikawa[m]> And not own any cryptos right?
03:23:03 <ishikawa[m]> Is this logic correct
03:23:44 <ishikawa[m]> Lets just say i dont want to be on KYC exchanges anymore, and i want to get rid of all my cryptos.
03:23:44 <volantaryism1[m]> nioc: good luck taxing me behind 9 stealth addresses
03:23:44 <ishikawa[m]> Is this possible?
03:23:45 <Kontvolkoren> I've never left my crypto on an exchange, not sure if that works in my favor
03:23:52 <bobbieweirder[m]> what do you mean? you can technically do whatever you want as long as the tax man gets a slice
03:24:08 <Kontvolkoren> @bobbieweirder[m]: lol indeed
03:24:24 <ishikawa[m]> <bobbieweirder[m] "what do you mean? you can techni"> Lets just say i pay my tax this year and then "get out"
03:24:36 <bobbieweirder[m]> like full defi?
03:24:40 <ishikawa[m]> Give him this years slice
03:24:49 <ishikawa[m]> and "get out"
03:24:55 <Kontvolkoren> Yes, you can
03:25:01 <Kontvolkoren> And stay in Monero
03:25:04 <bobbieweirder[m]> yeah of course
03:25:09 <volantaryism1[m]> Monero circular economy when
03:25:13 <ishikawa[m]> <bobbieweirder[m] "yeah of course"> correct
03:25:30 <Kontvolkoren> On the other hand, you can still mine/buy other crypto, just don't use it
03:25:33 <ishikawa[m]> <Kontvolkoren "Yes, you can"> correct
03:25:40 <bobbieweirder[m]> if you make money elsewhere, like in stocks or whatever, it might just make sense to harvest your losses and “get out”
03:25:56 <bobbieweirder[m]> start over in a more, let’s say, “tax hygienic” way
03:26:01 <ishikawa[m]> sorry i keep quoting the wrong message lol
03:26:03 <Kontvolkoren> kek
03:26:25 <ishikawa[m]> <bobbieweirder[m] "start over in a more, let’s say,"> Yeah this was the plan
03:26:36 <ishikawa[m]> Non KYC etc
03:26:56 <Kontvolkoren> They'll come for the KYC exchanges first
03:27:06 <bobbieweirder[m]> Kontvolkoren: low hanging fruit
03:27:07 <Kontvolkoren> Then they'll try to analyze the blockchain
03:27:22 <bobbieweirder[m]> we basically hand out info out on a platter begging them to take our money
03:27:25 <Kontvolkoren> Not only to tax you, but just to spy on you
03:27:40 <ishikawa[m]> Yeah they are getting weird about cryptos in my country.
03:27:40 <ishikawa[m]> Its fully transparent what there plans are.
03:27:46 <ishikawa[m]> <Kontvolkoren "Not only to tax you, but just to"> Yes this
03:27:47 <volantaryism1[m]> Kontvolkoren: use a different addresses 1 time
03:28:00 <Kontvolkoren> Well, the thing is... People shouldn't get wealthy, that's not the plan
03:28:21 <Kontvolkoren> They're losing control this way
03:28:38 <volantaryism1[m]> Kontvolkoren: not on transparent chains
03:28:45 <volantaryism1[m]> Only getting worse
03:28:49 <ishikawa[m]> Im really only into coins and tech that support and respect privacy.
03:28:49 <ishikawa[m]> For me thats what is so powerful about projects like monero and i want to support and be a part of that.
03:29:38 <bobbieweirder[m]> Kontvolkoren: but only wealthy people have healthcare or will be able to afford water when the climate apocalypse comes😢
03:29:39 <ishikawa[m]> I dont really care to much about making big $$$ i mean thats nice but this shit is more than that to me.
03:29:39 <volantaryism1[m]> I read a few papers today where researchers were able to identify IPs of bitcoin addresses by owning only a few nodes
03:29:54 <ishikawa[m]> I want to people using monero more and more
03:30:10 <ishikawa[m]> When my friend owns me anything, he pays in monero
03:30:14 <bobbieweirder[m]> <volantaryism1[m] "I read a few papers today where "> can you share?
03:30:24 <Kontvolkoren> Hmm, is an IP address logged when you do a transaction?
03:31:12 <Kontvolkoren> I'm on a VPN anyways
03:31:26 <volantaryism1[m]> Kontvolkoren: bitcoin doesnt have dandelion++, so if you can see the IP of thr first node a tx
03:31:43 <nioc> can use btc with tor
03:31:47 <volantaryism1[m]> *the ip of the first node a tx is broadcast from
03:31:49 <bobbieweirder[m]> i know this is amateur hour but can someone point me to some reputable resources on risks of BTC 2nd layer privacy?
03:31:57 <ishikawa[m]> <nioc "can use btc with tor"> I second this
03:31:58 <Kontvolkoren> Ah, true that
03:32:15 <ishikawa[m]> Get a whonix install running with electrum
03:32:23 <ishikawa[m]> and monero gui/cli
03:32:34 <volantaryism1[m]> bobbieweirder: have to connect with IP address 24/7 to have channel open
03:32:49 <ishikawa[m]> or just us samouri/wasabi both which connect via tor
03:33:02 <ishikawa[m]>  * or just us samorai/wasabi both which connect via tor
03:33:03 <volantaryism1[m]> Also dont use bitcoin wallets that reuse refund addresses
03:33:19 <bobbieweirder[m]> volantaryism1: this is LN?
03:33:37 <Kontvolkoren> The more I think of it, the more I only want to be in Monero
03:33:41 <volantaryism1[m]> bobbieweirder: yes LN nodes must be kept online or risk losing funds
03:34:04 <ishikawa[m]> <Kontvolkoren "The more I think of it, the more"> Could not agree more! the more things go on
03:34:23 <volantaryism1[m]> There are some methods to snoop of LN as a lot of txs are routed through a few super connected nodes
03:34:31 <nioc> I believe I have shared this visual aide before  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoNazPsXEAIe7VQ?format=jpg&name=small
03:34:31 <Kontvolkoren> And they'll come for you. They'll try to tax the shit of everything
03:34:36 <volantaryism1[m]> *snoop on
03:35:05 <ishikawa[m]> There are alot of changes going on in the regulatory sectors regarding crypto right now its fucked
03:35:10 <volantaryism1[m]> nioc: and it still wont work lol
03:35:40 <Kontvolkoren> Are the [m] guys on Matrix/Element?
03:36:42 <volantaryism1[m]> Transparent chains that utilize a lot of coinjoin like bitcoin cash have decent privacy as if you join enough coinfusions the number of possible inputs and outputs soon reaches number of atoms in the universe level
03:36:55 <bobbieweirder[m]> volantaryism1: what is the LN privacy mechanism?
03:37:10 <volantaryism1[m]> Bitcoin cash has built in auto cashfusion that automatically coinjoins in background
03:37:33 <bobbieweirder[m]> volantaryism1: but isn’t this kind of like wasabi? if you’re an outlier, meaning your transaction size is bigger than the rest, you’re still screwed
03:37:42 <ishikawa[m]> People have still be burned becauue of coinjoin
03:37:50 <ishikawa[m]> I dont trust it
03:38:11 <volantaryism1[m]> bobbieweirder: not an expert in lightning but i believe the privacy benefit is that tx are not recorded on chain
03:38:27 <ishikawa[m]>  * People have still be burned because of coinjoin
03:39:03 <volantaryism1[m]> bobbieweirder: coinjoins on bitcoin cash are a bit more advanced than in bitcoin but the drawbacks are similar
03:40:16 <bobbieweirder[m]> volantaryism1: i get that but the whole revolutionary point of crypto is blockchain. if it’s not on chain it’s just like a fancy venmo
03:40:52 <bobbieweirder[m]> i know i sound like an idiot i just really don’t understand the point of LN
03:40:58 <volantaryism1[m]> Lets say you join a fusion with similar outputs X, and you put in Y (which is X + Z not joined) the Z is not considered anon and must be kept separate from X
03:41:20 <bobbieweirder[m]> i guess if a bunch of people already have BTC and they want to use it it’s a bandaid to fix base layer problems...
03:42:18 <bobbieweirder[m]> volantaryism1: i think this makes sense to me
03:42:35 <volantaryism1[m]> True, UX of lightning is 100x times worse than lightning, its no surpirise that there is only 1200BTC on lightning but around 160,000 wrapped BTC on eth
03:42:49 <volantaryism1[m]> *100X worse than venmo
03:43:50 <volantaryism1[m]> Coinjoins could help btc privacy but they are so expensive i actually read a paper today that stated that because of high coinjoin fees all txs should be from malicious actors...
03:43:59 <bobbieweirder[m]> volantaryism1: i think there are people in some developing countries who use LN and it’s much better than when they were sans LN
03:44:20 <bobbieweirder[m]> some BTC maxis don’t want people to use LN though
03:44:42 <bobbieweirder[m]> but i mean also how do you expect people to pay $27 fees for a $25 tx
03:44:57 <volantaryism1[m]> bobbieweirder: they are probably using a custodial wallet - all of the popular ones are, so you destroy the whole point
03:45:27 <volantaryism1[m]> bobbieweirder: read some maxis twitter... fees are good aparently😂
03:45:28 <bobbieweirder[m]> <volantaryism1[m] "True, UX of lightning is 100x ti"> this literally defeats the entire purpose
03:46:09 <bobbieweirder[m]> <volantaryism1[m] "bobbieweirder: they are probably"> anything that is not on chain theoretically destroys the whole point
03:48:00 <volantaryism1[m]> They call on chain a settlement layer... as if txs are unsettled elsewhere lol
03:49:05 <bobbieweirder[m]> volantaryism1: on LN it is not really “settled” in the technical sense right?
03:49:56 <bobbieweirder[m]> it’s like on Venmo if you send money to someone they see that money in their account right away
03:50:27 <bobbieweirder[m]> but it’s not actually “settled” until both banks are cleared. in a sense Venmo is just fiat layer 2 😂
03:50:53 <volantaryism1[m]> You can pay someone on LN and have that removed from your balance, seems settled to me lol
03:52:48 <bobbieweirder[m]> but it’s not settled on chain!!😭
03:53:59 <bobbieweirder[m]> i see what you are saying. i just feel like we are replicating the fiat/venmo problem on BTC/LN
03:54:11 <bobbieweirder[m]> royal “we”
04:14:06 <L[m]2> Anyone here ?
04:14:20 <L[m]2> Interested in learning more about XMR
04:15:04 <bobbieweirder[m]> 🦍 L 🦍: pretty sure i scared everyone off😂
04:15:10 <osineofine> yes 667 people are here. try reddit.com/r/monero or https://www.getmonero.org/
04:15:44 <L[m]2> <bobbieweirder[m] "🦍 L 🦍: pretty sure i scared ev"> I scare dopeheads & crackheads off IRL - I think we can be besties
04:15:59 <abcdefg_irssi> hey
04:16:05 <abcdefg_irssi> in order to change my node on my vps to public
04:16:11 <abcdefg_irssi> what do i add to the .conf file
04:16:16 <abcdefg_irssi> i have it working as a private remote node rn
04:16:25 <L[m]2> I want to learn how XMR works on the technical side
04:16:34 <L[m]2> I've been in BTC since 2012
04:16:38 <L[m]2> and in ETH 2016
04:16:44 <L[m]2> but I think XMR is the way forward
04:17:06 <bobbieweirder[m]> 🦍 L 🦍: have you had a chance to read the whitepaper yet?
04:17:13 <L[m]2> Link ?
04:17:27 <selsta> L[m]2: https://masteringmonero.com
04:17:32 <L[m]2> btw I have a BA/MA in Econ , Math Minor - Ex Wall St Quant
04:17:38 <selsta> free book if you are interested in learning monero
04:17:51 <L[m]2> I need like technical shit
04:17:53 <L[m]2> like the white paper
04:17:57 <selsta> if you are more interested in the math part look into https://web.getmonero.org/library/Zero-to-Monero-2-0-0.pdf
04:18:00 <L[m]2> and programmers
04:18:06 <selsta> that's as technical as it will get :P
04:18:07 <bobbieweirder[m]> 🦍 L 🦍: https://www.getmonero.org/resources/research-lab/pubs/whitepaper_annotated.pdf
04:18:15 <L[m]2> <selsta "if you are more interested in th"> thats the shit homie !
04:18:22 <L[m]2> bobbieweirder: nice tnx
04:18:36 <L[m]2> Who running nodes here ?
04:18:44 <selsta> I run a couple
04:18:58 <L[m]2> Want to TLDR me on nodes ?
04:19:03 <abcdefg_irssi> im trying to set one up rn
04:19:15 <abcdefg_irssi> well it is set up i just need to make it public
04:19:25 <abcdefg_irssi> can you run a hidden service node and a clearnet off the same vps lol
04:19:28 <L[m]2> Are there any interesting XMR clone projects or people building on the network ?
04:19:35 <L[m]2> Like L2s ?
04:19:59 <L[m]2> Polkadot doing L0s
04:20:20 <L[m]2> kinda got sold into looking more into it but still didnt have time to do it
04:20:22 <bobbieweirder[m]> 🦍 L 🦍: check out Haveno. it’s not layer two but it’s a really interesting project. defi fiat <> XMR and all XMR based pairs
04:20:34 <bobbieweirder[m]> but that’s not layer two
04:20:35 <selsta> L0? layer 0?
04:21:01 <L[m]2> Yea
04:21:12 <L[m]2> Supposed to secure L1 chains
04:21:21 <L[m]2> Havent had time to read the white paper yet
04:22:15 <L[m]2> 🦋 B 🦋:
04:22:16 <L[m]2> https://web.getmonero.org/library/Zero-to-Monero-2-0-0.pdf
04:22:16 <L[m]2> https://www.getmonero.org/resources/research-lab/pubs/whitepaper_annotated.pdf
04:22:22 <L[m]2> Take a look B
04:24:40 <L[m]2> 🦋 B 🦋:  <-- Bitch with a 144 IQ
04:24:54 <bobbieweirder[m]> there is a clean version on getmonero (not annotated) but i found the annotated v to be very helpful
04:25:15 <L[m]2> Anyone day trade here or want to learn ?
04:25:28 <L[m]2> I teach people free on my room ( STC.MAIN.OFFICIAL. )
04:25:41 <bobbieweirder[m]> check out monero markets
04:25:45 <L[m]2> trying to do something with Matrix and XMR now
04:25:50 <L[m]2> Like link the two
04:26:05 <L[m]2> IRC -> Blockchain
04:26:18 <L[m]2> Could be a fun project to anyone who program here
04:26:55 <bobbieweirder[m]> #monero-markets:monero.social
04:27:02 <L[m]2> tnx
04:28:39 <L[m]2> <bobbieweirder[m] "#monero-markets:monero.social"> Whats this room ?
04:28:49 <selsta> price talk / markets / trading
04:29:31 <L[m]2> #STC.MAIN.OFFICIAL.:matrix.org <- My room
04:29:42 <L[m]2> I've been day trading 15 yrs and Ex Wall St.
04:30:02 <L[m]2> Series 7/63 CFA L2
04:30:18 <L[m]2> Used to do Quant Equity Research under a Ph.D. Accountant on Wall St.
04:30:34 <osineofine> lol an equity researcher calling himself a quant
04:30:45 <L[m]2> umm no
04:30:51 <L[m]2> I wasnt a scrub
04:30:57 <L[m]2> I covered like 5.5k stocks
04:30:59 <L[m]2> homie
04:31:33 <L[m]2> About 2.5k domestic and 3k international
04:31:50 <L[m]2> My former bank makes Goldman look poor
04:32:00 <L[m]2> Private
04:32:27 <L[m]2> osineofine: <-- This faggot is clearly poor LOL
04:34:53 <selsta> I traded like 1 stock
04:34:55 <selsta> w0w
04:35:39 <L[m]2> Dont sweat it , traditional markets for have no leverage for people with small accounts
04:35:45 <L[m]2> not even worth it
04:35:50 <L[m]2> FX & Cryptos is where its at
04:35:57 <nioc> I just listen to my Cat
04:36:07 <nioc> she made a great trade yesterday
04:36:09 <L[m]2> That nigger hates you
04:36:21 <nioc> called the bottom
04:36:30 <Norkle> .faucet
04:36:30 <L[m]2> Will eat your eyeballs as soon as you dont feed her
04:36:31 <nioc> it's all about Love
04:36:32 <Wallet> N​orkle: Of 6 ​? 2, which is 6
04:36:36 <Norkle> 6
04:36:37 <Wallet> Norkle: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000011 XMR to Norkle [aa5f1301] Wait ≈23 hrs 59 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01729644
04:37:14 <L[m]2> Remember when DOGEshit faucets were everywehere
04:37:22 <L[m]2> now people so dumb they pay for it lol
04:37:24 <L[m]2> FREECOIN
04:37:25 <L[m]2> LOL
04:43:48 <abcdefg_irssi> whats going on
04:43:54 <abcdefg_irssi> how the fuck do i get this node to be public
04:44:09 <L[m]2> Tell you what
04:44:18 <L[m]2> go to STC.MAIN.OFFICIAL.
04:44:21 <abcdefg_irssi> no
04:44:21 <L[m]2> ima look into it now
04:44:28 <L[m]2> well fuck you then faggot
04:44:36 <abcdefg_irssi> seethe dweeb
04:44:52 <L[m]2> what can I tell you continue to be a mediocre dumbass who cant get a node up
04:44:59 <abcdefg_irssi> well
04:45:03 <abcdefg_irssi> it works as a private node rn
04:45:06 <abcdefg_irssi> im trying to make it public
04:45:06 <L[m]2> I'm not the one with the problem here
04:45:15 <L[m]2> You are lol
04:45:26 <abcdefg_irssi> well im not joining your trade channel or whatever it is
04:45:32 <B[m]1> FACTS.
04:45:38 <abcdefg_irssi> ill idle in here until someone wants to help me
04:45:51 <bobbieweirder[m]> <L[m]2 "That nigger hates you "> dude not cool
04:46:06 <L[m]2>    🦋 B 🦋:  <-- This bitche's DOGE has a higher IQ than him --> abcdefg_irssi
04:46:28 <osineofine> are you getting this error message: "No incoming connections - check firewalls/routers allow port 18080"
04:46:29 <L[m]2> <bobbieweirder[m] "dude not cool"> bro grow some balls
04:46:36 <abcdefg_irssi> no
04:46:37 <L[m]2> I grew up in Brooklyn
04:46:40 <abcdefg_irssi> 18080 is allowed
04:46:56 <selsta> abcdefg_irssi: post the output of "status"
04:47:09 <arfteemczdx> You will DO what Monero tells you to do. You will JUMP when you are told to jump. And most importantly you will DISCONNECT whoever Scientology^H^H^H^H^H I mean Mnero tells you to disconnect. Otherwise you WILL end up like lh1008 here:
04:47:10 <arfteemczdx> monerologs.net/monero-community/20210114#c181614 And you will do it all for FREE. Because Monero is open souce :D Just like Linux is there to pay for $700k watches that Torvalds wears.
04:47:27 <abcdefg_irssi> i can connect to the node using --daemon-login
04:47:31 <abcdefg_irssi> but cannot without it
04:47:44 <L[m]2> <arfteemczdx "You will DO what Monero tells yo"> or you can just grow some RIDGES. and rewrite the code to do whatever the fuck you want it to do
04:47:46 <abcdefg_irssi> it gives me 1. Daemon either is not started or wrong port was passed. Please make sure daemon is running or change the daemon address using the 'set_daemon' command.
04:47:59 <abcdefg_irssi> when i try to connect
04:48:04 <abcdefg_irssi> without the --daemon-login
04:48:12 <abcdefg_irssi> if it helps im running it as a hidden service
04:48:31 <abcdefg_irssi> so do i use the --rpc-restricted-bind-ip with the .onion address instead of the IP address?
04:49:21 <abcdefg_irssi> 2021-04-24 04:49:10.744	I Monero 'Oxygen Orion' (v0.17.2.0-release)
04:49:21 <abcdefg_irssi> Error: Problem fetching info-- rpc_request:
04:49:23 <abcdefg_irssi> Height: 2346065/2346065 (100.0%) on mainnet, mining info unavailable, net hash 2.29 GH/s, v14, 0(out)+0(in) connections
04:49:29 <abcdefg_irssi> is status
04:49:53 <abcdefg_irssi> actually thats not accurate
04:49:56 <selsta> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/docs/ANONYMITY_NETWORKS.md#wallet-rpc
04:50:06 <abcdefg_irssi> i wasnt on the tmux tab when i ran that status
04:50:06 <selsta> might help
04:50:09 <abcdefg_irssi> nice
04:50:10 <abcdefg_irssi> ty
04:50:12 <abcdefg_irssi> let me check it out
04:52:42 <abcdefg_irssi> selsta you run public nodes right now right?
04:52:57 <selsta> yes but not behind tor
04:53:33 <abcdefg_irssi> what commands do you use when starting monerod
04:53:57 <abcdefg_irssi> or do i need to change anything in the bitmonero.conf file
04:56:03 <selsta> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/6792b4f8/
04:56:15 <bobbieweirder[m]> <L[m]2 "I grew up in Brooklyn "> ain’t mean shit. you wanna learn about monero and be part of the community that’s welcomed but doesn’t matter where you’re from. you’re being rude af
05:01:14 <L[m]2> <bobbieweirder[m] "ain’t mean shit. you wanna learn"> Nigga I would fuck you up if you said anywhere close to that to my face
05:01:25 <L[m]2> I will run my mouth until someone knocks me out
05:01:35 <L[m]2> and no one accomplished that in Rikers x3
05:01:42 <L[m]2> So shut the fuck up
05:01:47 <DisBotXMR1> <TcidenebEH> I’m from England what, what So I must speak proper posh.  If you run your mouth you will get digitally knocked out
05:02:12 <DisBotXMR1> <TcidenebEH> @needmoney90
05:03:53 <L[m]2> bobbieweirder: HHAHHAHHHA
05:03:59 <abcdefg_irssi> you know what i think im just stupid
05:03:59 <L[m]2> This nigger didnt last 5m in MAIN.
05:04:00 <L[m]2> #STC.MAIN.OFFICIAL.:matrix.org
05:04:06 <abcdefg_irssi> and wasnt restarting monerod after making changes
05:04:12 <L[m]2> <abcdefg_irssi "you know what i think im just st"> Didn't I tell you this ?
05:04:16 <L[m]2> Tried to even help you
05:04:23 <L[m]2> You were too stupid to accept help
05:04:50 <DisBotXMR1> <TcidenebEH> Don’t think that.
05:04:52 <abcdefg_irssi> yep thats what it was
05:05:10 <abcdefg_irssi> L2 post tax return
05:05:22 <abcdefg_irssi> let me see how much bread you got
05:05:33 <abcdefg_irssi> post private view key
05:05:38 <osineofine> haha I did something similar yesterday with my wallet and daemon
05:06:00 <L[m]2> <abcdefg_irssi "let me see how much bread you go"> bro I have hard ( physical ) BTC checks from 2012
05:06:06 <L[m]2> I havent sold a BTC
05:06:15 <abcdefg_irssi> ok post wallet address
05:06:19 <L[m]2> did ETH mining in 2016 blew out breakers in NYC building
05:06:23 <abcdefg_irssi> then send a satoshi somewhere
05:06:31 <L[m]2> you're an idiot
05:06:39 <L[m]2> how you even saying that in an XMR channel
05:06:50 <L[m]2> like wow
05:06:54 <abcdefg_irssi> so ur broke
05:06:55 <abcdefg_irssi> ?
05:07:03 <L[m]2> no wonder you dont know to run a node
05:07:09 <abcdefg_irssi> broke boy
05:07:11 <L[m]2> you dont even UNDERSTAND why XMR exists
05:07:15 <abcdefg_irssi> lets see those tax returns big boy trader
05:07:24 <L[m]2> <abcdefg_irssi "lets see those tax returns big b"> imagine paying taxes
05:07:26 <L[m]2> lol
05:07:31 <abcdefg_irssi> u have btc checks post wallet addresses
05:07:33 <L[m]2> do I look like I work ?
05:07:47 <abcdefg_irssi> u probably look like ur seething rn
05:07:57 <L[m]2> Tell you what if you figure this out ill post a pic for you
05:08:03 <L[m]2> this question
05:08:03 <abcdefg_irssi> no
05:08:08 <L[m]2> LOL
05:08:11 <L[m]2> dumbbasss
05:08:22 <abcdefg_irssi> broke boi
05:08:35 <abcdefg_irssi> i dont answer to ppl who dont clear at least 1.2 a year
05:08:47 <L[m]2> <abcdefg_irssi "broke boi"> I am so broke
05:08:52 <abcdefg_irssi> i know
05:08:53 <abcdefg_irssi> i can tell
05:08:55 <L[m]2> I eat ramen noodles in my moms basement
05:09:02 <L[m]2> like no hot water man
05:09:04 <L[m]2> its bad
05:09:05 <abcdefg_irssi> do you sell forex signals too
05:09:12 <L[m]2> I snort the powder and pretend its coke
05:09:18 <L[m]2> <abcdefg_irssi "do you sell forex signals too"> nah man
05:09:25 <abcdefg_irssi> u seem like the type of guy
05:09:27 <L[m]2> 2Sigma wanted to buy my model
05:09:30 <L[m]2> I LOL'ed at them
05:09:42 <abcdefg_irssi> do u make ig videos about your new altcoin investment and the big gains u make
05:09:51 <L[m]2> ig ?
05:09:54 <L[m]2> whats that ?
05:09:55 <abcdefg_irssi> to your 235 followers and 150 views
05:09:56 <osineofine> clearly a genius ex wall street "quant equity researcher" has nothing better to do than shill TA lessons in an IRC channel on a friday night
05:10:15 <L[m]2> People who show their face online are poor
05:10:22 <L[m]2> zero question about that
05:10:22 <abcdefg_irssi> just join his matrix channel and learn to day trade bro
05:10:31 <abcdefg_irssi> he will teach u how to make millions day trading
05:10:39 <L[m]2> nah I joined for two links
05:10:41 <L[m]2> and I got em
05:10:53 <L[m]2> ima clone XMR and clown on you fools
05:10:59 <abcdefg_irssi> good luck
05:11:07 <L[m]2> I don't need luck
05:11:09 <osineofine> if you do will you promise to go away
05:11:13 <L[m]2> I'm not afraid of hard work
05:11:23 <L[m]2> <osineofine "if you do will you promise to go"> no
05:11:34 <L[m]2> dont make me bot this room with tranny porn 24/7
05:11:47 <abcdefg_irssi> nobody cares
05:11:54 <L[m]2> You fucking with the wrong person faggot
05:12:00 <abcdefg_irssi> oh boy im so scared
05:12:05 <mechanimist[m]> PSA: If you use Element (and perhaps other matrix clients) then you can ignore obnoxious users, hiding their past messages and any of their further messages.
05:12:13 <selsta> same on IRC /ignore L[m]2
05:12:17 <B[m]1> B.CONFIRM>
05:12:20 <abcdefg_irssi> mean internet man is going to harass me
05:12:25 <L[m]2> B you're dumb af lol
05:12:32 <L[m]2> cant type the command correctly lol
05:12:38 <mechanimist[m]> oh cool I didn't know irc had that
05:12:50 <L[m]2> you people so mediocre
05:12:52 <abcdefg_irssi> ill probably block him when he stops being entertaining
05:12:53 <B[m]1>  * B.CONFIRM.
05:13:00 <L[m]2> you cant even hang over text chat LOL
05:13:04 <L[m]2> you need a safe space LOL
05:13:21 <L[m]2> what kind of useless thin skinned faggots are these people IRL 🦋 B 🦋
05:13:30 <abcdefg_irssi> can we go back to the topic about fucking with the wrong person
05:13:33 <abcdefg_irssi> what type of person are you
05:13:51 <abcdefg_irssi> what will you do to me
05:14:02 <L[m]2> nothing
05:14:05 <L[m]2> youre a peasant
05:14:06 <B[m]1> Safe word is worcestershire
05:14:06 <L[m]2> lol
05:14:22 <abcdefg_irssi> oh right you cant actually do anything
05:14:26 <abcdefg_irssi> thats good to know
05:14:47 <L[m]2> yup enjoy your own mediocrity
05:14:57 <abcdefg_irssi> enjoy being broke
05:15:20 <L[m]2> you're not special enough for me to waste time on you
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05:17:29 <L[m]2> abcdefg_irssi: im gucci
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05:26:35 <DisBotXMR1> <SpaceKitty> which matrix client yall be using?
05:26:51 <DisBotXMR1> <SpaceKitty> checking on the list there: https://matrix.org/clients-matrix/
05:26:59 <DisBotXMR1> <SpaceKitty> but like, the fuck do i know 🤷‍♀️
05:29:01 <selsta> afaik most use Element
05:29:12 <bobbieweirder[m]> Element!
05:30:09 <DisBotXMR1> <SpaceKitty> alrighty, thanks :3
05:39:07 <L[m]2> D M X - FleshOfMyFlesh BloodOfMyBlood FULL ALBUM
05:39:07 <L[m]2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-DtmDav8fA
05:39:17 <L[m]2> Grow some balls.
05:39:57 <Kontvolkoren> https://twitter.com/thenewsoncnbc/status/1385741341817180170
05:40:21 <L[m]2> Imagine having to say that
05:40:24 <L[m]2> thats embaressing
05:40:28 <L[m]2> just do it lol
05:40:32 <Kontvolkoren> inb4 $XMR is an evil coin used by criminals. We should make it illegal and ban it
05:40:48 <L[m]2> <Kontvolkoren "inb4 $XMR is an evil coin used b"> It is thats why I like it
05:40:53 <L[m]2> You cant ban crypto tho
05:41:02 <L[m]2> Which is why I am ALL.IN. on it
05:41:09 <Kontvolkoren> I know man, but look at what the media is doing
05:41:17 <Kontvolkoren> I can already smell their next move
05:41:39 <L[m]2>  Btich you cant smell your own shit after you drop the cosbys by the pool
05:42:00 <L[m]2> If you could you would have more money and thats a FACT.
05:42:02 <Kontvolkoren> They're trying the same thing they did with Bitcoin, but they don't have to worry about that surveillance coin anymore
05:42:18 <L[m]2> BTC is almost at 51% controlled by CHINA
05:42:28 <L[m]2> World needs something new
05:42:34 <Kontvolkoren> I'm talking to a bot or something?
05:42:45 <th0rr[m]> Best exchanger from BTC TO XMR friends?;)
05:42:50 <L[m]2> <Kontvolkoren "I'm talking to a bot or somethin"> you talking to a LEGIT. motherfucker FAGGOT.
05:43:04 <L[m]2> <th0rr[m] "Best exchanger from BTC TO XMR f"> DIS.NIGGER.FUKS.
05:43:21 <L[m]2> AtomicWallet.io <-- just switch for 1%
05:43:24 <abcdefg_irssi> he sends a couple messages then shills his matrix channel where he sells stock tips or something
05:43:28 <L[m]2> or take it to Binance
05:43:32 <Kontvolkoren> It's gonna be an interesting year for crypto
05:43:36 <L[m]2> its an exchange i fuck with
05:43:36 <osineofine> https://localmonero.co for btc to xmr
05:43:44 <abcdefg_irssi> tradeogre
05:43:49 <abcdefg_irssi> is what i use for btc to xmr
05:43:53 <L[m]2> <Kontvolkoren "It's gonna be an interesting yea"> you're a NEWFAG.
05:43:54 <L[m]2> lol
05:43:58 <L[m]2> 2012 OG here
05:44:19 <Kontvolkoren> Who's this 4chan kid?
05:44:54 <L[m]2> Bitch ill post RECEIPTS.
05:45:57 <abcdefg_irssi> >likely protected by the russian government
05:45:58 <abcdefg_irssi> lmao
05:46:06 <L[m]2> Well I am Russian
05:46:26 <L[m]2> 97% Eastern European genes
05:47:13 <abcdefg_irssi> damn is that why youre broke
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05:48:53 <L[m]2> Does that look like I am BROKE. ?
05:49:26 <abcdefg_irssi> you have carpet floors yes it does
05:49:37 <L[m]2> what is that nigger ?
05:49:49 <abcdefg_irssi> popcorn ceiling too?
05:49:59 <L[m]2> what is that?? ? ?
05:50:02 <L[m]2> tell me
05:50:53 <abcdefg_irssi> look up at your ceiling youll see what im talking about
05:51:32 <L[m]2> abcdefg_irssi: <-- PLEASE. Tell everyone what is that item in the last picture.
05:52:11 <L[m]2> @room is waiting
05:52:54 <abcdefg_irssi> do u keep everything in cardboard boxes
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05:54:32 <spacekitty420[m]> like wut
05:54:40 <spacekitty420[m]> got dm'ed by that bot when joining the channel
05:54:43 <spacekitty420[m]> what  should i do?
05:54:53 <spacekitty420[m]> bot dont wanna talk me :'(
05:55:56 <L[m]2> <abcdefg_irssi "do u keep everything in cardboar"> Something from 2012, yes.
05:55:59 <L[m]2> What is that ?
05:58:40 <L[m]2> Then calculate how much BTC that ONE unit mined
05:59:10 <L[m]2> THen take a look at your checking account, savings accounts, your 401(K), the amount of Equity in your house.
05:59:23 <L[m]2> Then cry yourself into a hard corner of mediocracy
05:59:47 <spacekitty420[m]> 🦍 L 🦍: what even is u talking about?
06:00:00 <L[m]2> 3rd gen BTC mining
06:00:27 * spacekitty420[m]  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/hNIuSkKfUsMPLzLCwUKyOIMO/message.txt >
06:00:34 <L[m]2> 1st gen CPU
06:00:34 <L[m]2> 2nd gen GPU
06:00:34 <L[m]2> 3rd gen FPGA
06:00:45 <L[m]2> but you good
06:00:49 <spacekitty420[m]> asics is not fpga
06:01:03 <L[m]2> ASIC is a specialized FPGA , 4th gen
06:01:24 <L[m]2> FPGA's can be reprogrammed, ASICS hard coded to do one thing
06:01:59 <L[m]2> that baby was poping out 5 BTC / day
06:02:09 <spacekitty420[m]> yeah, is why asics on btc are paperweight, single purpose bullshit hardware that getting obsolete real quick to become e-waste
06:02:20 <L[m]2> I got into BTC @ 2nd GEN
06:02:37 <spacekitty420[m]> btc is shitcoin nowadays tho
06:02:54 <L[m]2> true but its still $50k / coin
06:03:02 <L[m]2> not bad for electricity cost
06:03:18 <spacekitty420[m]> doesnt matter, shitcoin is shitcoin
06:03:19 <spacekitty420[m]> if you cant sell it who gives a fuck about what coinmarketcap telling you what price it is
06:03:29 <L[m]2> DOGE is a shitcoin
06:03:38 <spacekitty420[m]> ur mom is shitcoin
06:03:40 <L[m]2> BTC is still DIgital Gold until quantum computers
06:03:47 <spacekitty420[m]> lmao
06:03:48 <L[m]2> <spacekitty420[m] "ur mom is shitcoin"> my mom is SATAN
06:04:06 <spacekitty420[m]> gold is fungible, btc isnt
06:04:06 <spacekitty420[m]> monero is digital gold, not btc
06:04:07 <abcdefg_irssi> damn sorry bro i didnt realize u were that cool
06:04:20 <L[m]2> Told her to invest in BTC in 2012, ETH in 2016 , GME in 2021
06:04:26 <L[m]2> She dumb as fuck likes to WAGECUCK.
06:04:41 <L[m]2> Master's degree so she makes 6 figures more than you POORFAGS.
06:04:54 <abcdefg_irssi> post your matrix channel again
06:04:57 <spacekitty420[m]> who gives a fuck about $ tho
06:05:06 <L[m]2> <abcdefg_irssi "damn sorry bro i didnt realize u"> Tony Stark wishes he was this cool
06:05:13 <L[m]2> <spacekitty420[m] "who gives a fuck about $ tho"> Well I dont
06:05:15 <L[m]2> I give it away
06:05:29 <L[m]2> <abcdefg_irssi "post your matrix channel again"> nah fuck you lol
06:05:30 <abcdefg_irssi> damn bro... can u front me a dub..
06:05:43 <L[m]2> <abcdefg_irssi "damn bro... can u front me a dub"> how much you need ?
06:05:51 <spacekitty420[m]> only people empty in the inside that even more of that $ cant fill them enough to be a happy being still caring about some more even of that $ in the hope they wont be that empty but it just dont work ya know
06:05:54 <L[m]2> the QUEEN went to bed she has the petty cash accounts
06:06:10 <L[m]2> Otherwise I would send you some BNB for funzies
06:06:14 <abcdefg_irssi> just want a 40 and some tacos can u front me till i get paid next friday bro
06:06:24 <L[m]2> I can do that
06:07:08 <abcdefg_irssi> thanks next friday is rent tho so ill pay u half then ill pay u the other half my next paycheck
06:07:16 <L[m]2> #STC.MAIN.OFFICIAL.:matrix.org
06:07:23 <L[m]2> I know how it is being a POORFAG>
06:07:29 <abcdefg_irssi> thats for being such a cool guy who has so much btc and his own matrix channel
06:07:29 <L[m]2> no shame in it bro
06:07:56 <L[m]2> <abcdefg_irssi "thanks next friday is rent tho s"> I dont need money you can have it
06:08:14 <L[m]2> learn to trade man
06:08:19 <L[m]2> won't need money after that
06:08:26 <L[m]2> just capital to trade
06:08:33 <spacekitty420[m]> jfc that channel just so cringe
06:08:37 <L[m]2> FX offers 50x-100x leverage
06:08:39 <spacekitty420[m]> fucking wallstreet wannabe up in here lmao
06:08:45 <L[m]2> do that math on a 100k account
06:08:48 <abcdefg_irssi> hes a quantum trader bro
06:08:53 <L[m]2> 2% one trade is $2,000
06:09:13 <L[m]2> bro thats more than your rent in 5m of work
06:09:28 <L[m]2> <spacekitty420[m] "fucking wallstreet wannabe up in"> I worked on Wall St homie
06:09:37 <L[m]2> Series 7/63 RECEIPTS.
06:09:38 <spacekitty420[m]> that's the only thing you can talk about, "$" lmao, fuck... that's sad
06:09:50 <L[m]2> Nah man I call them Clown Dollars
06:10:04 <L[m]2> its going downhill FED printing them like its going broke
06:10:06 <L[m]2> bc it is
06:10:17 <L[m]2>  Merals, Crypto & GME is what is safe now
06:10:22 <L[m]2> *metals
06:10:22 <spacekitty420[m]> prob being the type of dipshit telling everyone how much dem shoes be costing or that jacket and whatnot
06:10:34 <spacekitty420[m]> so cringe
06:10:45 <L[m]2> I mean I have HUGO boss shoes for $650 but I wear vibrams
06:10:52 <L[m]2> and my shoes from Rikers
06:10:56 <L[m]2> no one can get
06:11:03 <spacekitty420[m]> yeah, nobody gives a fuck
06:11:07 <spacekitty420[m]> you're cringe
06:11:13 <L[m]2> and ?
06:11:26 <L[m]2> you're too poor to have an opinion anyone cares about spacekitty420:
06:11:56 <spacekitty420[m]> fair, am a broke ass bitch but idgaf :3
06:12:52 <spacekitty420[m]> at least i can talk about other shits with people than "oooh $$$$ LOL SOME MORE $$$ RETARD REEEEE AUTSTICAL SCREECHING $$$" :derp: 😹
06:14:00 <spacekitty420[m]> like, how about you find yourself a life 🦍 L 🦍:
06:14:20 <L[m]2> Bro I can literally send you more BTC than you will ever need in your life
06:14:26 <L[m]2> and it will be an accounting error on my books
06:14:28 <abcdefg_irssi> yo im here
06:14:30 <abcdefg_irssi> in your matrix room
06:14:34 <abcdefg_irssi> start a conference call
06:14:41 <spacekitty420[m]> but i dont give a fuck about your shitcoin, go shill it to someone else lmao
06:14:41 <abcdefg_irssi> talk shit over the mic
06:14:58 <L[m]2> <spacekitty420[m] "but i dont give a fuck about you"> money doesnt stink homie
06:15:07 <spacekitty420[m]> yours does
06:15:14 <L[m]2> maybe
06:15:19 <L[m]2> but ppl still want it
06:15:30 <spacekitty420[m]> ppl dont want your dirty ass bitcoin lmao
06:16:06 <spacekitty420[m]> and even if they wanted to, how about when you get that long ass blocktime cause difficulty readjustment is every 2016 blocks
06:16:11 <spacekitty420[m]> like.... few weeks long block
06:16:16 <spacekitty420[m]> cause no one mining that shit
06:16:29 <spacekitty420[m]> cause fees got taken offchain with segwith and LN and all those 2nd layer bullshits
06:16:34 <L[m]2> <spacekitty420[m] "ppl dont want your dirty ass bit"> I got millions of DOGE
06:16:39 <L[m]2> want some DOGEshit ?
06:17:01 <spacekitty420[m]> who gives a fuck, like, good on you, nobody gives a fuck tho
06:18:17 <L[m]2> you can have it free just suck my dick for it lol
06:20:12 <spacekitty420[m]> i mean......... we could do that but then dont come crying if i get the knife out to cut it then peg your wallstreet wannabe ass with your own dick
06:22:56 <L[m]2> Bro LOL
06:23:11 <L[m]2> First knife fight ive been in was 2 v 1 when I was like 12 yo
06:23:17 <L[m]2> I grew up in Brooklyn
06:23:37 <spacekitty420[m]> oooooh that makes more sense, a retard american wall street wannabe lmao
06:23:37 <L[m]2> I didnt start with the knife I was rolling my newborn brother from daycare
06:23:43 <L[m]2> Lets fuck
06:24:44 * spacekitty420[m] uploaded an image: (605KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/GDoXiZOgfWXMobGYCpieJATy/image.png >
06:24:46 <L[m]2> and thats a GOOD neighborhood in brooklyn FAGGOT.
06:24:59 <spacekitty420[m]> MURICA
06:25:02 <spacekitty420[m]> lmao 😹
06:25:59 <riceweasel> just kiss already jesus what is this couple fighting
06:26:45 <binaryFate> please keep it civil in this channel
06:27:45 * spacekitty420[m]  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/YOkBRvhMeMUWgEyTaPNUICiP/message.txt >
06:28:02 <spacekitty420[m]> there aint no cypherpunks no more, only dipshit wallstreet wannabes
06:37:26 <abcdefg_irssi> binaryfate you should probably just ban this guy
06:37:36 <abcdefg_irssi> already dropped hard r's in the channel
06:38:42 <binaryFate> yeah maybe, I didn't scroll through all
06:43:53 <bobbieweirder[m]> binaryFate: i reported several
06:47:46 <Mochi102> oh man... thought I was in pools. ;)
06:58:46 <L[m]2> <bobbieweirder[m] "binaryFate: i reported several"> Imagine being a thin skinned FAGGOT. like that LOL
06:58:56 <L[m]2> do you tell on you wife to your mom too ?
07:04:08 <bobbieweirder[m]> thanks binaryFate
07:04:59 <bobbieweirder[m]> really didn’t appreciate people in here being called the N word or the F word for trying to help
07:07:00 <ishikawa[m]> What's was that guys deal? I left then came back and then he was still going lol
07:07:17 <bobbieweirder[m]> 🤣
07:07:17 <Mochi102> Probably smoked a bit too much mETH
07:07:26 <ishikawa[m]> Talking with no purpose
07:07:34 <bobbieweirder[m]> abcdefg_irssi challenged him to a conference call
07:07:42 <ishikawa[m]> Ahahaha
07:07:43 <bobbieweirder[m]> respect
07:07:59 <ishikawa[m]> Mad respect lol
07:08:54 <ishikawa[m]> Remember people he's from Brooklyn
07:09:01 <ishikawa[m]> Lol lol
07:09:23 <ishikawa[m]> I'm sure he mentioned that multiple times
07:10:33 <ishikawa[m]> Still have no idea why he was going on like that I think Mochi102 was right.
07:10:33 <ishikawa[m]> Perhaps to much meth
07:11:31 <bobbieweirder[m]> ishikawa: while you were gone $ARRR flipped $ZEC
07:12:03 <ishikawa[m]> <bobbieweirder[m] "ishikawa: while you were gone $A"> What!? Lol
07:12:17 <ishikawa[m]> Maybe my dad is on to something here
07:12:39 <bobbieweirder[m]> (in market cap)
07:12:57 <bobbieweirder[m]> maybe he is😂
07:12:57 <ishikawa[m]> Interesting
07:13:17 <bobbieweirder[m]> secretly hurting
07:13:24 <ishikawa[m]> While I was gone I also sold all my alts
07:13:33 <ishikawa[m]> All in XMR now baby
07:14:04 <ishikawa[m]> Sick of dealing with all these pairs in want to simplify my trading
07:14:14 <bobbieweirder[m]> did you get off exchange!?
07:14:17 <ishikawa[m]> * Sick of dealing with all these pairs i want to simplify my trading
07:14:50 <ishikawa[m]> <bobbieweirder[m] "did you get off exchange!?"> Not yet I'm going to get my trade csv file of all trades and I'm out
07:15:16 <ishikawa[m]> Going to report for this tax season and I'm then I'm ghosting
07:16:06 <ishikawa[m]> So I can plug the csv file into crypto  tax software and be done with it
07:16:55 <bobbieweirder[m]> WHAT crypto tax software
07:17:02 <bobbieweirder[m]> 🤯
07:17:07 <ishikawa[m]> Yeah it does it all for you
07:17:15 <ishikawa[m]> I will find a link one sec
07:17:46 <ishikawa[m]> https://cryptotrader.tax/
07:18:15 <ishikawa[m]> Need to test it out more though
07:18:45 <ishikawa[m]> Hopefully it does not count sending to another wallet as selling or something like that.
07:21:11 <bobbieweirder[m]> thanks i’ll check it out
07:24:32 <ishikawa[m]> Yeah hopefully it makes the process smoother.
07:24:32 <ishikawa[m]> You can plug the api directly also as "read only"
07:26:00 <ishikawa[m]> Can't wait to get of these KYC exchanges it feels skummy. These exchanges are really the banks and regulators bitches right now. I don't want to be a part of it.
07:26:47 <ishikawa[m]> Its interesting to see what the future will bring regarding crypto
07:27:45 <ishikawa[m]> Monero seems to have the best use case right now in terms of privacy and real value.
07:27:49 <bobbieweirder[m]> it went from cypherpunk to very not cypherpunk very quickly
07:28:03 <bobbieweirder[m]> crypto in general
07:28:37 <bobbieweirder[m]> shilling on twitter, 125x futures on binance lol
07:29:13 <bobbieweirder[m]> but it’s all just part of the whole deal. if we want everyone to use crypto there needs to be a place for everyone i suppose
07:29:32 <ishikawa[m]> Yeah agreed, it turned into people arguing over coins. And calling everything but btc a shitcoin.
07:30:18 <bobbieweirder[m]> listen to the new monero talk episode
07:30:38 <ishikawa[m]> Will do for sure
07:31:07 <ishikawa[m]> What's it hosted on?
07:31:20 <bobbieweirder[m]> i listen on stitcher
07:31:20 <ishikawa[m]> Would love to check it out
07:31:42 <bobbieweirder[m]> but i think it’s “anywhere you get your podcasts”
07:32:25 <mechanimist[m]> also yt: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3Hx81QYLoEQkm3vyl4N4eQ
07:33:46 <ishikawa[m]> Thanks tuning in now 😎
07:34:56 <bobbieweirder[m]> seth’s episode from last week also
07:35:16 <asymptotically> ishikawa[m]: but really though, almost everything except for btc is a shitcoin. monero is a rare exception
07:35:58 <asymptotically> bitcoin might be quite broken (not fungible, no privacy) but at least it was fairly launched with no premine or ico and no bs
07:36:12 * ishikawa[m]  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/MhKwTgCPRzlIlgNasdrddOtC/message.txt >
07:36:24 * ishikawa[m]  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/fIxDJhjdAJCYWdtyBIMSYgby/message.txt >
07:36:59 <bobbieweirder[m]> if you know anyone who owns retail businesses help them set up XMR payments
07:37:53 <ishikawa[m]> <bobbieweirder[m] "if you know anyone who owns reta"> Great idea. Its actually really easy to set up. In was looking into not that long ago
07:38:07 <bobbieweirder[m]> last week for moneroversary doug was selling coffee and if someone wanted to pay in cash it was $10 and he would help them set up a wallet and send them their change in XMR
07:38:21 <bobbieweirder[m]> you can incorporate something like that between friends
07:39:15 <bobbieweirder[m]> otherwise i just keep having conversations and stick monero stickers everywhere like a mad person
07:42:48 <ishikawa[m]> bobbieweirder: this is awsome!
07:42:48 <ishikawa[m]> My friend recently owed me some money so I made him set up an xmr wallet and transfer me that and anytime he owes me he just uses that.
07:42:48 <ishikawa[m]> I have set up about 4 friends so far.
07:43:19 <ishikawa[m]> And vice versa
07:43:59 <bobbieweirder[m]> people in my life always complain about XMR being too hard/expensive to get
07:48:13 <ishikawa[m]> That's were my persuasive nature comes into play.
07:48:14 <ishikawa[m]> I really try and tell them why it benefits them directly
07:48:24 <apotheon> 07:37 < ishikawa[m]> <bobbieweirder[m] "if you know anyone who owns reta"> Great idea. Its actually really easy to set up. In was looking into not that long ago
07:48:38 <apotheon> What's your process for getting someone set up to use Monero in retail?
07:48:48 <apotheon> Do you have it described online anywhere?
07:50:45 <ishikawa[m]> <apotheon "What's your process for getting "> There are integrated solutions you can use with existing pos systems also
07:51:03 <ishikawa[m]> https://www.monerointegrations.com/index.html
07:51:41 <apotheon> Oh, this seems to be about online stuff.
07:51:48 <apotheon> I was thinking brick and mortar.
07:52:04 <ishikawa[m]> https://www.getmonero.org/community/merchants/#payment-gateways
07:52:38 <asymptotically> apotheon: https://github.com/amiuhle/kasisto
07:53:16 <apotheon> Yeah.  The problem is they also need some accounting knowledge for dealing with it (re: payment gateways), and it'd be difficult to get someone on board without being able to give them some kind of useful information.
07:53:47 <apotheon> Kasisto looks interesting, though.  Thanks for that.
08:00:03 <apotheon> Well . . . off to bed.  G'night!
08:07:51 <ishikawa[m]> Fyi that guy that got banned is going at it again in monero markets ahahah lol
08:08:00 <ishikawa[m]> Does not give up lol
08:08:00 <abcdefg_irssi> dude
08:08:04 <abcdefg_irssi> the L guy?
08:08:14 <abcdefg_irssi> I just spent like 2 hours in his matrix channel bullying him
08:08:23 <abcdefg_irssi> hes insanely cringe
08:08:25 <abcdefg_irssi> like
08:08:32 <abcdefg_irssi> its wild people like that exist
08:08:41 <ishikawa[m]> Yeah that guy
08:08:54 <ishikawa[m]> Yeah it baffles me
08:09:12 <abcdefg_irssi> he posts like weird GME memes in his channel, claims to be a 15 year stock broker with a PHD that owns billions in bitcoins
08:09:22 <abcdefg_irssi> its like some weird wallstreetbets matrix channel
08:09:39 <abcdefg_irssi> I just sat there for 2 hours berating him and asking him to post a single asset he owns that is over 1k since he claims to be rich
08:09:45 <ishikawa[m]> Dude wtf!? That's cringe as fuck
08:09:59 <abcdefg_irssi> yea
08:10:38 <ishikawa[m]> People really out there, what stumps me the most is.....why?!
08:10:38 <ishikawa[m]> What motivates him ahahaha
08:10:58 <abcdefg_irssi> i think hes underage
08:11:04 <abcdefg_irssi> and trying to be cool or something
08:11:08 <abcdefg_irssi> thats what i got
08:11:18 <abcdefg_irssi> from interacting with him for a couple hours
08:11:32 <ishikawa[m]> Hahhaah that's better than what i got
08:11:42 <ishikawa[m]> Let's see if he gets another ban
08:11:56 <ishikawa[m]> Where will he go from there I wonder
08:12:02 <ishikawa[m]> * Where will he go from there I wonder
08:18:10 <bobbieweirder[m]> abcdefg_irssi: he’s in momo markets now i think 😂 mumuks threatened to ban
08:18:30 <ishikawa[m]> Yeah I just seen that now ahahaha
08:18:50 <bobbieweirder[m]> abcdefg_irssi: did you get on that conference call
08:18:54 <ishikawa[m]> Looks like spacekitty420 joined ahahah
08:19:08 <ishikawa[m]> Lol lol
08:19:08 <spacekitty420[m]> what's up
08:19:34 <Mumuks[m]1> <bobbieweirder[m] "abcdefg_irssi: he’s in momo mark"> He posted the link to his room earlier and I let it stand. Then a few hours later he posted the link again. Once is enough.
08:19:39 <ishikawa[m]> spacekitty420: your friend in monero markets
08:19:50 <spacekitty420[m]> 🤷‍♀️
08:20:10 <bobbieweirder[m]> Mumuks: he already got banned from here earlier
08:20:36 <Mumuks[m]1> <bobbieweirder[m] "Mumuks: he already got banned fr"> Yeah, I have too much patience
08:22:45 <ishikawa[m]> <spacekitty420[m] "🤷‍♀️"> I was talking about that guy you roasted  progressed to another monero channel to continue his lameness.
08:22:56 <bobbieweirder[m]> i think as long as the n words and f words get deleted it’s fine. we get spam bots all the time and we just coexist
08:23:51 <ishikawa[m]> <bobbieweirder[m] "i think as long as the n words a"> Yeah people here are pretty chill and open minded and to get banned from a chat like this is kinda lame lol
08:24:13 <spacekitty420[m]> eh, just cant be bothered with these people anymore nowadays tbh
08:24:32 <ishikawa[m]> Yeah gets a bit much
08:27:02 <ishikawa[m]> Any opinions on good non KYC exchanges apart from tradeogre?
08:27:36 <ishikawa[m]> Possibly  Tor friendly
08:27:47 <ishikawa[m]> * Possibly Tor friendly
08:28:04 <spacekitty420[m]> <ishikawa[m] "Any opinions on good non KYC exc"> there's a decent list over there: https://kycnot.me/
08:33:24 <ishikawa[m]> Tradeogre would be awesome if it let you use Tor.
08:35:13 <ishikawa[m]> Either way its good and there are other options as well.
08:35:13 <ishikawa[m]> Localmonero seems to be the ticket.
08:35:39 <ishikawa[m]> I just like how easy tradeogre is
08:35:41 <bobbieweirder[m]> i wish i were the localmonero guy in my area
08:36:28 <ishikawa[m]> Ahaha same here! Maybe we can be the local monero guys in our area
08:43:04 <mechanic41turk[m> be the change you want to see
08:43:19 <Mumuks[m]1> <bobbieweirder[m] "i think as long as the n words a"> I have a mod bot that removes the spam in #monero-markets:monero.social , it just needs to be made mod, I could bring it here if you guys want
08:43:36 <Mumuks[m]1> If you decide you want it, just ping me
08:48:55 <Kontvolkoren> https://odysee.com/@MoneroTalk:8/aleksandar-svetski-on-bitcoin's:0
08:49:02 <Kontvolkoren> Ugh, so painful to watch this
08:50:01 <Kontvolkoren> Those Bitcoin maximalists...
08:51:21 <spacekitty420[m]> "I'm at a point I don't even want Bitcoin anymore. Just give me Monero and I don't have to worry about anything."
08:51:21 <spacekitty420[m]> same
08:51:44 <Kontvolkoren> True
08:51:52 <mechanic41turk[m> <Kontvolkoren "https://odysee.com/@MoneroTalk:8"> add this to your RSS reader! https://lbryfeed.melroy.org/channel/odysee/@MoneroTalk:8
08:51:59 <mechanic41turk[m> > <@spacekitty420:matrix.org> "I'm at a point I don't even want Bitcoin anymore. Just give me Monero and I don't have to worry about anything."
08:51:59 <mechanic41turk[m> > same
08:51:59 <mechanic41turk[m> based
08:58:23 <spacekitty420[m]> OH! i saw the meme he talking about x)
09:07:53 <spacekitty420[m]> <Kontvolkoren "https://odysee.com/@MoneroTalk:8"> oki so dumbfuck didnt get the memo that chainalysis got the $625k from irs BECAUSE of LN, he being all like "LN is private" and whatnot, jfc.....
09:16:38 <mechanimist[m]> He doesn't seem stupid to me. I think he's a believer in BTC's firstness and the momentum it gained because of that. He thinks that that momentum is crucial for the success of a cryptocurrency. He admits that if monero were the one that was first, then it would probably be the one to support instead
09:17:17 <mechanic41turk[m> muh first mover
09:17:20 <mechanimist[m]> some of us on the other believe that monero provides a significant enough value as an innovation that it will not matter that it's not first
09:17:30 <mechanimist[m]> other hand*
09:17:41 <mechanimist[m]> i tend to think that too
09:18:46 <mechanimist[m]> the monerotalk is really good at these interviews!!
09:18:51 <mechanimist[m]> monerotalk host*
09:19:19 <spacekitty420[m]> he contradicts himself tho, being like he aint in it to make a quick buck and then saying shits like its censorship-resistant because how much money in it and then even saying that the public ledger is one of the reason its censorship resistant
09:19:19 <spacekitty420[m]> am still at the begining of the thingy for now but... because the ledger is public is the reason why anyone can be like "aint doing business with you cause you received a payment from that other someone that believes pepsi is better than coca-cola"
09:19:45 <asymptotically> to be fair, i don't want to deal with anyone brainwashed into thinking that pepsi is better than coca-cola
09:19:51 <asymptotically> maybe transparent blockchains are the way to go after all
09:20:01 <spacekitty420[m]> x)
09:25:19 <andrewjackson> Do you have any evidence that pepsi is better than coca-cola?
09:26:06 <DisBotXMR1> <SpaceKitty> how many people ended up ded which in their lives been drinking coca-cola? :hyperthonk:
09:26:07 <Quotes> super ded
09:29:43 <asymptotically> /kickban andrewjackson
09:31:57 <mechanimist[m]> <mechanic41turk[m "muh first mover"> having watched more of it i feel like his entire position boils down to this
09:35:36 <ishikawa[m]> I'm watching the talk now and its seems like he is talking about monero then I realise he's not.
09:36:23 <mechanic41turk[m> monero is what bitcoin maxis think they have.
09:50:59 <vekin> coca-cola isn't as sweet as pepsi, you just lack the extra incentive and dopamine hit from consuming it
10:14:38 <ishikawa[m]> <mechanic41turk[m "monero is what bitcoin maxis thi"> This guy in the talk says he's a libertarian/anarchist I don't see how Bitcoin follows that thinking model.
10:16:19 <mechanimist[m]> He sort of mentally teleports to a beautiful stateless future where privacy on the main chain doesn't matter anymore
10:16:28 <ishikawa[m]> Yeah exactly
10:16:44 <mechanimist[m]> But I feel like the main issue is that he underestimates how much better monero is at getting there, if that's where we are headed
10:17:17 <ishikawa[m]> I was trying to be open minded watching it and take on board his viewpoint bit it all just falls flat for me tbh
10:17:47 <ishikawa[m]> What's censorship resistance without privacy?
10:18:12 <ishikawa[m]> <mechanimist[m] "He sort of mentally teleports to"> This hit the nail on the head
10:18:31 <mechanimist[m]> IDK I feel like I see where he's coming from if I also mentally teleport to a stateless future, but I get hung up on how he expects BTC to be able to get us there from here
10:19:16 <ishikawa[m]> Yeah he mentions talk is cheap and I'm kinda seeing a bit of that from him
10:20:32 <ishikawa[m]> I do understand what he is saying but i think there is not much behind it apart from his view of this stateless future were privacy doesn't matter.
10:20:32 <ishikawa[m]> And his version of privacy is the LN
10:20:50 <mechanimist[m]> yeah
10:21:18 <ishikawa[m]> Kinda got me fuled up to buy more XMR
10:21:28 <mechanimist[m]> His view of the future of BTC seems to be similar to the gold standard in the past
10:21:43 <mechanimist[m]> where banking layers got built on top of an underlying gold network
10:21:56 <mechanimist[m]> he wants banking layers to be built on top of an underlying BTC network
10:22:04 <mechanimist[m]> but how is that more state resistant?
10:22:19 <ishikawa[m]> Some of the most censorship resistance we have had has comes from privacy based projects.
10:22:37 <ishikawa[m]> Not fucking banks
10:22:50 <mechanimist[m]> yup
10:23:45 <ishikawa[m]> This BTC Maxi's i swear!
10:27:32 <spacekitty420[m]> he didnt know about:
10:27:33 <spacekitty420[m]> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/mh41vl/so_it_begins_major_mining_firm_says_it_will_only/
10:28:27 <spacekitty420[m]> https://cointelegraph.com/news/the-blacklist-marathon-only-mining-fully-compliant-bitcoin-transactions
10:29:29 <spacekitty420[m]> talking about "censorship-resistant" while btc is already being censored....
10:30:47 <spacekitty420[m]> and going to his happy place of his own utoia in which btc is the only currency for all 10 billions of people of the earth as a counter argument....
10:30:58 <spacekitty420[m]> utopia*
10:34:06 <ishikawa[m]> Yes this 👆
10:34:37 <ishikawa[m]> Top comment on that post:
10:34:37 <ishikawa[m]> "if only there was a cryptocurrency where censorship was impossible and mining centralization didn't exist....."
10:36:57 <ishikawa[m]> It all sounded very cypherpunk, Anarchistic, libertarian.
10:36:57 <ishikawa[m]> But fell flat the moment he went off into his utopia vision for "his" version of the future.
10:37:36 <ishikawa[m]> Shit keeps coming full circle back to monero for me every damn time
10:38:16 <mechanimist[m]> i am quite sympathetic to his vision, but i still think his argument for not supporting monero falls flat because of consideration about how to actually get to that future
10:38:56 <ishikawa[m]> Yes don't get me wrong I Love the vision!!!
10:39:14 <ishikawa[m]> That's why I thought he was talking about monero ahaha
10:39:21 <mechanimist[m]> haha exactly
10:39:54 <ishikawa[m]> I was Like dope vision dude, we sound  like we have similar views and then he said all that shit.
10:40:10 <mechanimist[m]> yup :/
10:41:28 <spacekitty420[m]> the mining part, specially like "you can get energy from anywhere so you can mine it from literally anywhere" like... he talking about monero when he thinking he talks about btc..... the centralized nature of asics makes it very niche and expensive market for a selected few, he didnt even have a counter argument to monero mining but "nah, asics just better lolol"
10:42:56 <ishikawa[m]> Maybe he got confused about this utopia and he's actually talking about monero?
10:43:10 <ishikawa[m]> Actually yes that's what happened
10:43:17 <ishikawa[m]> It all makes sense now
10:45:35 <mly> hello
10:45:38 <spacekitty420[m]> idk, thats just too weird, like host mentioned "hypocrisy"
10:45:42 <spacekitty420[m]> henlo o/
10:46:21 <mly> what do you think of a federated online marketplace?
10:46:55 <spacekitty420[m]> what does federated means in that context?
10:47:00 <grc001[m]> a chinese btc mining farm went down recently, and i heard that the hash rate dropped like 20% (from one major farm goin down).
10:47:16 <grc001[m]> centralized
10:47:21 <ishikawa[m]> ooft
10:47:38 <spacekitty420[m]> enjoy dem slow blocks with readjustment in 2016 blocks o.o
10:48:39 <mly> federation is like matrix many servers but on the same network
10:50:03 <moneromooo> The biggest monero pool controls more than a third of the hash rate.
10:50:15 <mechanic41turk[m> <grc001[m] "a chinese btc mining farm went d"> yeah, and following that, the transaction fees have skyrocketed to 20 bucks.
10:50:42 <mly> i am working already on this
10:50:45 <mly> i am collecting ideas, people and donations
10:51:11 <grc001[m]> btc is fkn stupid
10:51:13 <mechanic41turk[m> mly: you got a git published somewhere?
10:51:20 <grc001[m]> it goes without saying
10:51:38 <ishikawa[m]> <mechanic41turk[m "yeah, and following that, the tr"> My friend has a BTC transaction stuck at the moment with no confirmations
10:51:51 <ishikawa[m]> Hopefully it drops off the chain eventually
10:51:56 <mechanic41turk[m> <ishikawa[m] "My friend has a BTC transaction "> many such cases.
10:52:22 <mly> yes https://github.com/o-nly/xopow
10:52:24 <ishikawa[m]> Stuck in mempool
10:53:15 <grc001[m]> i kept having to "bump fees" and then i said fck it im out and then dumped it all for xmr
10:53:20 <mly> i have a channel too: #xopow:disencord.disenthrall.me
10:53:33 <ishikawa[m]> Actually whats the best way to get a stuck transaction out?
10:53:34 <mechanimist[m]> <mechanic41turk[m "yeah, and following that, the tr"> why would that affect transaction fees? I thought that the PoW difficulty scales to keep the number of blocks per unit time constant. i would think that this would keep fees the same after a change in the hash rate. fees are people bidding on getting their transaction put into the next block, right? they are not bidding on hashes. What am I missing here?
10:53:52 <jonah_xd[m]> Is there an expiration date on mempool transactions, like imagine i put 1 tenth of a cent as a transaction fee
10:54:33 <moneromooo> Fewer blocks mean smaller throughput.
10:54:52 <mechanic41turk[m> mechanimist: 20 percent of the hashrate is gone suddenly. But due to 2016 block difficulty readjustment constant, the network didn't drop the difficulty immediately following the hashrate drop.
10:55:09 <mechanic41turk[m> so it got more difficult to find blocks.
10:55:10 <mechanic41turk[m> people had to wait more and more time for the blocks to be found.
10:55:23 <mechanimist[m]> mechanic41turk: oh i see, so there's a delay in the hash rate adjustment. interesting!
10:55:30 <mechanic41turk[m> this drove the transaction price up.
10:55:30 <mechanimist[m]> block difficulty adjustment**
10:55:31 <mechanic41turk[m> <mechanimist[m] "mechanic41turk: oh i see, so the"> yeah. it's anachronistic rather than interesting, really.
10:56:22 <mechanic41turk[m> <mechanimist[m] "block difficulty adjustment**"> yeah
10:56:23 <mechanic41turk[m> <mechanic41turk[m "this drove the transaction price"> NUMBA GO UPP BABBBYY !!!
10:56:25 <mechanic41turk[m> matt_odell.jpeg
10:56:26 <mechanic41turk[m> DESIGNED TO PAMP
11:04:23 <grc001[m]> <moneromooo "The biggest monero pool controls"> thats disconcerting, no?
11:04:40 <mechanimist[m]> uh huh
11:05:43 <grc001[m]> or u mean thats a good thing?
11:06:02 <grc001[m]> sorry, im above my pay grade here
11:06:23 <spacekitty420[m]> not good, centralization bad
11:06:52 <grc001[m]> yea i figured, but xmr is growing, hopefully more pools and stuff
11:07:28 <grc001[m]> i wanna mine but pc will melt if i do
11:07:34 <mechanimist[m]> they're pointing out that the mining network is not currently much better than bitcoin's in terms of centralization, if not worse
11:08:05 <mechanimist[m]> (but monero has much more potential for decentralized mining )
11:08:25 <spacekitty420[m]> there's alot of pools already:
11:08:25 <spacekitty420[m]> https://miningpoolstats.stream/monero
11:08:25 <spacekitty420[m]> but same as the cryptocoins, btc having majority with the "dominance" stat thingy
11:09:33 <asymptotically> mechanimist[m]: bitcoin's is a bit different. iirc the top few pools are basically owned/controlled by bitmain anyway so it's all just a front
11:09:34 <spacekitty420[m]> there's some coins that even adopted the "pool-resistance" ideology for few years now, everyone a node, fully decentralized
11:09:44 <asymptotically> and also everyone needs to get their miners from bitmain (after they're done mining with them for themselves)
11:10:08 <mechanimist[m]> ah didn't know that
11:10:58 <moneromooo> So what's the share of bitmain's bitcoin hash rate then ?
11:11:15 <spacekitty420[m]> 100%
11:11:20 <spacekitty420[m]> or close
11:11:56 <moneromooo> Sorry, I meant the pools, now actual hardware.
11:12:06 <moneromooo> I assume that changes the answer...
11:12:18 <spacekitty420[m]> haha fair :P, idk tho x)
11:13:16 <asymptotically> antpool (13%) + viabtc (13%) + btc.com (9%), so it's not as bad as i remembered :p
11:14:06 <moneromooo> Oh, viabtc is bitmain... THanks, good info.
11:14:11 <spacekitty420[m]> 35% then but guessing the other % majority of it is still centralized in china tho
11:14:32 <grc001[m]> never heard of bitmain, just searched n found an article 'Bitmain Mining Monopoly - Dancing with the Devil' - ima giv it a read
11:25:56 <mechanic41turk[m> <mechanimist[m] "they're pointing out that the mi"> Moneros mining decentralization is waay ahead of bitcoins
11:26:29 <mechanic41turk[m> Apparently ~70 percent of bitcoin mining facilities are located in chinese soil
11:26:54 <mechanic41turk[m> And some whopping 80 percent or some mining pool operators are chinese nationals.
11:27:14 <mly> gumroad looks cool
11:28:32 <mechanimist[m]> mechanic41turk: do we have stats of that sort for monero?
11:31:25 <mechanic41turk[m> <mechanimist[m] "mechanic41turk: do we have stats"> There are websites listing monero pools
11:37:54 <mechanic41turk[m> holy shit just tried to listen to that latest ep of monero talk, and that super maxi boi extreme delux bitcoiner sounds maximally cringe.
11:38:08 <mechanic41turk[m> Literally just spitting off the nakamoto institute articles he read
11:38:21 <mechanic41turk[m> Daniel Krawicz's writings
11:38:36 <mechanic41turk[m> and some parts of MIses' human action, and mostly saifedean's "everything is fiat now" line
11:38:39 <mechanic41turk[m> bruuuh
11:38:56 <mechanic41turk[m> don't they realize how cringe, simplistic, and honestly, insufferable they sound?
11:38:56 <kayront> <mechanic41turk[m> Apparently ~70 percent of bitcoin mining facilities are located in chinese soil
11:38:58 <kayront> this is fine™
11:39:02 <kayront> (:D)
11:39:19 <kayront> but - they will tell you - 100% of monero mining facilities are located on EARTH!
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11:49:09 <spacekitty420[m]> <kayront "but - they will tell you - 100% "> indeed, patoshi were mined from outerspace UwU
11:49:22 <moneromooo> Crap. I deopped -_-
13:37:15 <xvcesvcx> Word of guys running Monero community should be BELIEVED. Why would anyone that stole money and laughed at the losers that took the bait ever have a reason to lie to you? http://removeddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6d6okb/fluffypony_needs_to_give_up_his_commit_access_and/ (changed link to removeddit since /r/monero mod removed to try to cover it up - maybe fluffy himself?)
13:39:50 <grc001[m]> hahaha this fkn guy
13:40:30 <grc001[m]> chew a dick. and u cant respond back haha
13:42:16 <asymptotically> grc001[m]: best just to ignore :D maybe your client lets you filter out messages containing keywords so you don't have to see it anymore
13:45:50 <grc001[m]> i got no probs with it, just wanted to respond once. ure right not good to feed the trolls
13:46:47 <botcoinnotbot[m]> kayront: its worse than that, 85% of hashrate is controlled by mining pools in china or hong kong
13:53:09 <apotheon> 06:37 < abcdefg_irssi> already dropped hard r's in the channel
13:53:14 <apotheon> What is a "hard r"?
13:53:30 <apotheon> 06:28 < spacekitty420[m]> there aint no cypherpunks no more, only dipshit wallstreet wannabes
13:53:35 <mechanimist[m]> n word ending in an r
13:53:36 <apotheon> spacekitty420[m]: You just aren't looking in the right places.
13:53:48 <apotheon> mechanimist[m]: Oh, fun.
13:53:58 <apotheon> I didn't read enough of that disaster going on earlier to notice that.
13:54:12 <apotheon> mechanimist[m]: Thanks for clearing that up for me.
13:54:23 <mechanimist[m]> :)
14:16:36 <rupee[m]> .soak $1
14:16:37 <Wallet> rupee[m]: Really soak 0.00275879 XMR? y/n (10s)
14:16:42 <rupee[m]> y
14:16:43 <Wallet> rupee[m] soaked 0.00018 XMR (0.00275879 Total) upon 15 users @ 470 minutes riceweasel xvcesvcx vekin Kontvolkoren Mochi101 Mumuks Wallet abcdefg_irssi moneromooo asymptotically nsee AndrewJackson binaryFate kayront chaper @bonuspot (0.00005879 scraps) [b654cb5a]
14:17:34 <apotheon> rupee[m]: Hi.  How's life?
14:18:17 <rupee[m]> great! how are you?
14:18:28 <apotheon> Not too shabby.
14:18:36 <apotheon> I'm awake much earlier than I'd like, though.
16:12:27 <gaulderson> Hi there! I am having some issues retrieving my monero balance on the gui via ledger and was hoping someone here may be willing to help me out.
16:13:19 <moneromooo> Check the value of "restore from height" or similar name in the options. Is it higher than the block height you got yout first transaction ?
16:15:18 <selsta> "Wallet restore height" in Settings -> Info
16:15:22 <gaulderson> The value of the restore height is 1455028. The last transaction I made was a withdrawal from binance in April 2018
16:15:54 <gaulderson> 2019*
16:16:22 <selsta> When was the first transaction?
16:17:42 <gaulderson> Good question. I had to reset my ledger around that time so I think it should also be around then. I'm honestly not too sure though
16:19:50 <selsta> your restore height should be ok
16:20:18 <selsta> which "wallet mode" are you using? You can also see that in Settings -> Info
16:20:22 <gaulderson> simple
16:20:30 <selsta> version?
16:20:46 <gaulderson> 0.17.2.1-8444a956 (Qt 5.15.2)
16:21:14 <selsta> ok, did you wait for the scanning process to finish?
16:21:23 <selsta> does it say on the left side daemon and wallet are synchronized?
16:21:26 <gaulderson> Yeah, it says wallet and daemon are synced
16:21:46 <selsta> I assume you also saw it sync for 20+ minutes?
16:21:52 <gaulderson> yeah
16:22:07 <selsta> ok, can you verify that the address matches your old address?
16:22:23 <gaulderson> The address does not match
16:22:47 <selsta> did you change the account setting on your Ledger settings?
16:23:04 <selsta> you have to select account #0
16:23:06 <gaulderson> I tried the 9 different accounts on my ledger
16:23:21 <selsta> all 9 don't match?
16:23:53 <gaulderson> no. When I first opened the gui, I also selected "create new wallet from ledger" on accident instead of restore old wallet from ledger. Is it possible the new wallet overwrote the old one?
16:24:04 <selsta> no
16:24:36 <selsta> create new wallet from ledger / restore from ledger is just related to your restore height
16:24:41 <gaulderson> oh okay
16:25:07 <selsta> do you use a ledger passphrase?
16:25:11 <gaulderson> yes
16:25:35 <selsta> https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005214529-Advanced-passphrase-security
16:25:38 <selsta> this?
16:26:07 <selsta> if you initially did not use a passphrase and now use one it will regenerate a different account
16:26:20 <selsta> > The passphrase is essentially a password added to your 24-word recovery phrase that provides access to a whole new set of accounts.
16:27:19 <gaulderson> oh. sorry. I confused that with the pin I enter
16:27:23 <gaulderson> I don't have a passphrase
16:29:03 <selsta> The first step is you have to have the same address displayed on your Ledger as you had 2 years ago
16:29:29 <selsta> 18:17 <gaulderson> Good question. I had to reset my ledger around that time so I think it should also be around then. I'm honestly not too sure though <-- did you reset your Ledger with a new seed?
16:30:10 <gaulderson> Yes, but the funds were withdrawn to the new seed ledger
16:31:24 <gaulderson> I lost my old 24 word recovery phase so I deposited monero to binance, resetted ledger with new seed so I could write it down, then withdrew to new ledger
16:32:00 <gaulderson> this was in april 2019
16:36:29 <selsta> Does your address on your Ledger start with 4?
16:36:33 <gaulderson> yes
16:44:25 <selsta> ok, like I said the address on the Ledger has to match the address on the binance withdrawal
16:44:34 <selsta> then you can restore in the GUI
16:44:43 <gaulderson> I am confused as to why they do not
17:16:17 <gaulderson> so unless I can figure out why the addresses don't match I'm screwed?
17:16:36 <gaulderson> I'm running out of ideas
17:25:51 <botcoinnotbot[m]> hey my node has banned like 20 nodes in the last few minutes
17:26:17 <botcoinnotbot[m]> did a reverse search on the ips and they are all coming from a VPS provider in https://www.ovh.co.uk/
17:26:24 <botcoinnotbot[m]> is the cause for concern?
17:27:48 * botcoinnotbot[m]  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/jHLuBxYZqaXUvMAruoGzqrff/message.txt >
17:27:50 <botcoinnotbot[m]> ips
17:28:26 <moneromooo> Yes, they're probably known asshole nodes, trying to mess with you. Just igore them.
17:28:33 <mechanimist[m]> my node also banned a few and they trace back to the same provider
17:40:59 <volantaryism1[m]> Is this the same person/group that tried to attack the network in nov/dec?
17:50:41 <hyc> probably
17:51:08 <hyc> even if it's not the same group, we have no idea so will keep blaming the original asshole
17:57:02 <selsta> are the IPs in https://gui.xmr.pm/files/block.txt ?
17:57:08 <selsta> if yes it is the same person
18:09:09 <yanmaani> Has anyone tried to do peephole optimization of randomx?
18:16:22 <sech1> yanmaani it's pretty useless, try to find any sub-optimal places in the code here: https://xmrchain.net/randomx/2346463
18:18:38 <yanmaani> sech1: ixor_r r2, r1 could be replaced by nop
18:18:57 <yanmaani> same goes for most of the stuff in the beginning
18:19:40 <sech1> no it couldn't
18:19:46 <sech1> these are different registers
18:20:10 <yanmaani> sech1: yes, but they both start as 0x0
18:20:30 <sech1> it's inside the loop
18:21:16 <yanmaani> the stuff with r1: could be determined that r1 gets loaded to, so r1 is only interesting in terms of what it does for r3
18:22:44 <sech1> do you know that all registers are XOR'ed with values from scratchpad in the beginning of each iteration?
18:22:52 <sech1> they're not even 0 when this code starts executing
18:23:18 <yanmaani> but it says r1: r1: 0x0000000000000000 right there
18:24:05 <sech1> this is before first loop iteration
18:24:20 <sech1> https://github.com/tevador/RandomX/blob/master/src/asm/program_loop_load.inc
18:24:26 <sech1> this is how each iteration starts
18:24:35 <sech1> and only then goes that code
18:27:18 <yanmaani> well, OK
18:27:21 <yanmaani> what about the branches?
18:27:38 <sech1> what about them?
18:27:45 <yanmaani> If there's only a 1/256 chance of them being taken, couldn't a miner strip them all out, heavily optimize the code, and then take the risk?
18:28:42 <sech1> each program runs 2048 iterations, 2048/256=8
18:29:05 <sech1> it's better to continue in #monero-pow
18:29:07 <yanmaani> You mean the 8 different programs part?
18:35:01 <illegaltransacti> In Monero why is there a primary address and subaddresses if they're functionally identical? Why not just present them as 'addresses'? Why is there a distinction?
18:35:05 <botcoinnotbot[m]> selsta: just checked one of the ips and they match the banlist
18:35:34 <selsta> botcoinnotbot[m]: yea they never took down the malicious nodes
18:36:14 <botcoinnotbot[m]> can you give me a qrd on how to automatically incorporate the banlist into my node please
18:36:36 <raecarruth> illegaltransacti: you may not want to give your actual address to people
18:36:46 <raecarruth> it's nice to have an alias
18:39:24 <selsta> botcoinnotbot[m]: either start with --enable-dns-blocklist
18:39:43 <selsta> or download block.txt on your computer and start node with --ban-list /path/to/block
18:43:56 <moneromooo> illegaltransacti: historical reasons, and also mining can only be done to the standard address (for code simplicity).
18:44:30 <moneromooo> Subaddresses are comparatively new, and backward compatibility was needed.
18:46:26 <yanmaani> what can the malicious nodes even do? monitor transactions?
18:47:04 <moneromooo> Monitor traffic, feed you bad data, not relay your data.
18:47:13 <moneromooo> DoS you.
19:02:04 <abcdefg_irssi> will subaddresses help prevent EAE attacks
19:02:24 <abcdefg_irssi> If youre using a new subaddress for each transaction?
19:06:56 <botcoinnotbot[m]> they prevent different identities being linked by the same address
19:07:55 <botcoinnotbot[m]> after listening to the breaking monero series you can prevent EAE attacks with churning but others probably know more than me
19:08:50 <moneromooo> Churning is probably not a hugely effective countermeasure.
19:09:10 <moneromooo> Kinda depends how you do it. And the details are... unclear.
19:13:35 <f3r0x> ok so monero is faster, with lower tx fees and more private than BTC
19:13:46 <f3r0x> but what would happen if monero was as popular as BTC
19:13:51 <f3r0x> would those things still be true
19:13:57 <hyc> it would still be faster, lower tx fees, and more private
19:13:58 <sech1> The world would've been a better place
19:14:35 <osineofine> monero has dynamic block sizes which alleviates tx problems and the privacy features would not change, although they might attract more attention from people trying to crack it
19:15:47 <abcdefg_irssi> I watched the breaking monero episode
19:15:49 <abcdefg_irssi> on EAE
19:15:55 <abcdefg_irssi> and I'm just trying to figure out how to avoid that
19:16:05 <abcdefg_irssi> because that to me seems to be the most common scenario
19:16:42 <abcdefg_irssi> controlled buy -> monitor outputs -> exchange co-operates
19:16:57 <moneromooo> Monero txes take longer to verify than Bitcoin txes. They're way more private though. Transaction fees would still be lower.
19:17:59 <moneromooo> And if Monero was more popular (I assume a proxy for usage), it'd become even more private,
19:19:05 <botcoinnotbot[m]> abcdefg_irssi: coin control can help protect you from mixing outputs in a tx
19:19:07 <moneromooo> If we switch to triptych with higher ring size, tx verification will become slower too (though more private).
19:19:56 <hyc> I presume most people still want triptych and higher ring size
19:35:31 <botcoinnotbot[m]> https://youtu.be/uHKq-n2c0PE?t=1408 <- not sure if I understood exactly what is being said here, however, is it true that triptych will improve blockchain verification time?
19:36:50 <moneromooo> Unlikely. It's faster per ring member I think, but ring size will almost certainly increase.
19:36:51 <hyc> it's faster for a given ringsize
19:37:05 <hyc> but yeah, ringsize increase will completely cancel that
19:42:27 <apotheon> hyc: I hear a rumor you might have working i2pd+monerod config.
19:42:56 <hyc> yes, it wasn't too complicated
19:43:01 <hyc> lemme see where it went
19:43:04 <apotheon> Cool.  Thanks.
19:43:24 <apotheon> Youse guys are awesome.
19:44:26 <hyc> https://paste.debian.net/1195032/
19:45:10 <apotheon> Thanks.
19:45:41 <apotheon> What about the i2pd side of things?  (I haven't actually used i2pd yet.)
19:46:00 <apotheon> Oh, wait.  Is this the i2pd config?
19:46:12 <apotheon> criminy, I'm ignorant about this still
19:47:27 <hyc> that goes in /etc/i2pd/tunnels.conf.d/monero.conf
19:48:06 <apotheon> gotcha
19:48:24 <apotheon> How about the monero side, then?
19:49:04 <hyc> there's a bunch of cmdline flags, yeah
19:49:08 <hyc> one sec
19:49:25 <hyc> actually that should be in the ANONYMITY_NETWORKS.md doc already
19:49:31 <apotheon> Many thanks.  I'll stick that in an alias, or a service script, or something.
19:49:34 <apotheon> ah
19:49:51 <apotheon> If that suits the i2pd setup, then I'll use that.  Thanks.
19:50:05 <apotheon> (I'll read documentation of the options, of course.)
19:50:55 <hyc> the pertinent flags are /monerod --anonymous-inbound wqcbpmrlvulvhv7vn4r6jbx7d6qgodvh676amtlynn5eg32umc4q.b32.i2p,127.0.0.1:8061 --tx-proxy i2p,127.0.0.1:8060
19:51:10 <hyc> obviously you use your own i2p address there instead of mine
19:52:21 <apotheon> one would hope
19:52:26 <apotheon> hyc: Thanks much.
19:52:31 <yanmaani> what's triptych gonna end up at?
19:52:32 <hyc> no prob
19:53:18 <hyc> btw the -keys.dat file goes in /var/lib/i2pd
19:53:24 <apotheon> noted
19:54:05 <hyc> I don't have the command used to generate the keys. it was in the i2pd docs anyway
19:54:32 <apotheon> I'll look at those.
20:20:37 <endor00[m]> That's for relaying transactions via i2p, right?
20:21:07 <hyc> yeah
20:22:04 <endor00[m]> And if I want more i2p peers I can add more --anonymous-inbound destinations, right?
20:22:28 <hyc> I don't think that's how it works
20:40:49 <ecvuxcbal> When Tari finally comes out, will you dump your Monero to buy it? Will others?
20:43:10 <volantaryism1[m]> ecvuxcbal: just want all spooks, jannies, IRS agents, shills and bitcoin maxis to know that I am never ever ever ever going to sell my monero
21:10:38 <Inge-> Any ideas on how many non-mining nodes there are in monero?
21:12:13 <volantaryism1[m]> Inge-: utxobr found 4320 yesterday
21:12:22 <volantaryism1[m]> Not sure how many were mining tho
21:12:38 <CCosta[m]> 4320 reachable, 16k total (clearnet)
21:13:15 <CCosta[m]> added socks5 support today, will run some numbers again soon
21:13:17 <Inge-> kk
21:13:20 <Inge-> cool
21:34:00 <Inge-> .faucet
21:34:00 <Wallet> I​nge-: How many were Three Little Pigs wi​thout eyes
21:34:05 <Inge-> 0
21:34:05 <Wallet> Inge-: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000023 XMR to Inge- [ceb48845] Wait ≈23 hrs 59 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01741293
21:37:41 <abcdefg_irssi> .faucet
21:37:43 <Wallet> ab​cdefg_irssi: Octagon is how many sides​?
21:37:47 <abcdefg_irssi> 8
21:37:47 <Wallet> abcdefg_irssi: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000233 XMR to abcdefg_irssi [5f05da5f] Wait ≈23 hrs 55 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01738963
21:43:15 <charolastra> .faucet
21:43:15 <Wallet> charolastra: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in?
21:43:57 <charolastra> yes i am. Wallet exit scammed on me?
21:44:19 <azy> .facuet
21:44:33 <azy> .faucet
21:44:35 <Wallet> ​azy: Whic​h is bigger, 3 or 1
21:44:38 <azy> 3
21:44:38 <Wallet> azy: @bonuspot tipped 0.000005 XMR to azy [5022e786] Wait ≈23 hrs 55 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01738463
21:44:45 <azy> .balance
21:44:46 <Wallet> azy: • Your balance is: 0.0001992 XMR (≈0.08 USD)
21:51:19 <Mochi102> .faucet
21:51:21 <Wallet> Mochi102: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in?
21:51:28 <Mochi101> .faucet
21:51:28 <Wallet> Mochi101: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in?
21:51:41 <Mochi101> Come on.
21:51:59 <Mochi101> I want my $0.0000012 cents today!
21:52:02 <Mochi101> .faucet
21:52:03 <Wallet> Mochi101: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in?
21:53:15 <sech1> .faucet
21:53:16 <Wallet> s​ech1: Octagon is h​ow many sides?
21:53:19 <sech1> 8
21:53:19 <Wallet> sech1: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000035 XMR to sech1 [48db8c56] Wait ≈1 day 1 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01738113
21:53:28 <sech1> Mochi101 your turn to be denied now :P
21:53:40 <Mochi101> No sense for me!
21:56:56 <mfoolb> .faucet
21:56:59 <Wallet> m​foolb: How ​many letters in VTC
21:57:03 <mfoolb> 3
21:57:04 <Wallet> mfoolb: @bonuspot tipped 0.000001 XMR to mfoolb [56d6e169] Wait ≈23 hrs 59 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01738013
21:57:22 <mfoolb> .balance
21:57:23 <Wallet> mfoolb: • Your balance is: 0.00645954 XMR (≈2.55 USD)
21:57:56 <nioc> .faucet
21:57:56 <Wallet> nioc: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in?
21:58:10 <nioc> spllllllllit
22:00:13 <Mochi101> .faucet
22:00:13 <Wallet> Mochi101: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in?
22:05:20 <nioc> .faucet
22:05:20 <Wallet> nioc: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in?
22:17:37 <grc001[m]> are the bots playin up? monerobux i think mite be sleepin in markets room
22:18:21 <nioc> there was a netspilt
22:18:44 <nioc> things still coming back and you will need to login again
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22:24:23 <grc001[m]> sweet az. nioc u were the first person to help us wen i first came here. champ.
22:25:07 <nioc> I still can't login yet
22:25:35 <nioc> I help where I can :)
22:28:26 <grc001[m]> i logged back in
22:29:16 <nioc> .faucet
22:29:23 <grc001[m]> yea champion. no homo tho.
22:29:32 <nioc> guess me too
22:30:26 <Mochi101> We're all Guests here.
22:30:48 <nioc> no, u r Mochi101
22:45:00 <Beags[m]> .faucet
22:46:42 <nioc> wallet must be ded after the split
22:47:26 <Mochi101> RIP old friend
22:57:40 <dirtmount[m]> Is Monero a clunky research project or something actually ready to be used as a currency by the world?
22:58:08 <volantaryism1[m]> dirtmount: ready bro! The clunky code shit is baseless fud
23:01:37 <moneromooo> It's kinda between both I'd say.
23:01:40 <Guest21078> https://twitter.com/rottenwheel/status/1386059630950993924
23:02:13 <moneromooo> It's supposed to be solid. However, it can't reasonably scale to world currency atm.
23:02:30 <moneromooo> Then again, neither can anything else really.
23:03:59 <dirtmount[m]> How much can it currently reasonably scale?
23:04:03 <volantaryism1[m]> moneromooo: i have faith in the exponential power of computing that bu the time it gets to that the network can handle it but that is just my bullish opinion
23:05:05 <volantaryism1[m]> *but
23:07:20 <moneromooo> Depends on your definition of reasonably. It's a continuum. It doesn't seem to have any trouble atm, for example.
23:11:24 <volantaryism1[m]> ArticMine is the one to ask about scaling
23:12:39 <jesusthehealer[m> I found a Monero wallet file that's about 4 years old I think, and the GUI freezes and completely crashes when I try to open it. Do I need to do something special with it?
23:13:39 <[r|y`a_n]> what happens when you open it with the cli?
23:13:42 <moneromooo> Open it with monero-wallet-cli.
23:14:05 <jesusthehealer[m> I
23:14:08 <jesusthehealer[m> I'll try that.
23:14:18 <moneromooo> Also, if you know how to get a stack trace for hte GUI crash, post it to paste.debian.net
23:15:22 <selsta> jesusthehealer[m: do you use ledger?
23:15:54 <grc001[m]> hey does the gui auto-update? i see theres a new gui version out but it didnt auto-update (or "check for updates"). Im not using macOS.
23:15:58 <jesusthehealer[m> Nope
23:17:16 <volantaryism1[m]> https://web.getmonero.org/downloads/
23:23:11 <moneromooo> It checks TXT records. They're still at 0.17.1.9.
23:25:36 <grc001[m]> the newest version is 0.17.2.1
23:26:33 <grc001[m]> so itll auto-update, or just check for update, when it deems it neccessary for one's os or otherwise?
23:27:14 <selsta> grc001[m]: we did not activate the auto updater yet
23:27:40 <selsta> we only activate it if the new release has new major bugs reported
23:28:13 <selsta> currently the latest GUI release has issues with multiple displays so we did not activate the auto updater
23:28:23 <grc001[m]> sweet, cheers selsta. my gui has been working fine. im on the version previous to newest vrsion.
23:29:24 <grc001[m]> so to butt in with my question, jesus dude needs help... u fckrs r too good to us plebs, yous put in work helpin us out. cheers
23:29:34 <grc001[m]> *sorry to butt
23:32:05 <selsta> grc001[m]: so yea, in 1-2 weeks the auto update should pop up with v0.17.2.2
23:32:37 <grc001[m]> thats mad az, nice!
23:37:37 <nioc> grc001[m]: that's what this channel is for
23:54:03 <grc001[m]> MVPs, the lot of ya