00:08:52 <volantaryism1[m]> botcoinnotbot: i would like to know this too
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01:29:00 <louipc> lol 200. question is when was this published tho
01:29:45 <metacrisis[m]> <volantaryism1[m] "1619394548060.jpg"> I like bitcoin but lmao this is accurate
01:30:37 <louipc> bitcoins really unusable
01:30:53 <apotheon> I'm not sure what there is to like about BTC these days.
01:31:08 <metacrisis[m]> Yeah bitcoin ain't the best for sure codebase wise.
01:31:22 <louipc> i like that it keeps going up in price is about all
01:31:45 <apotheon> For all I know, it could be great code, but it doesn't seem to *do* anything useful these days.
01:31:57 <apotheon> Other things keep rising in price, too.
01:32:22 <apotheon> Ethereum and BCH seem to do better on that metric, from what I recall.
01:32:25 <metacrisis[m]> Yeah bitcoin by itself is a masterpiece IMO. But there are better Cryptos for sure
01:32:26 <Quotes> CRYPTO IS NOT CRYPTOCURRENCY ಠ_ಠ ~ IT REFERS TO CRYPTOGRAPHY, metacrisis[m]
01:32:28 <louipc> yea i should prob sell and swap for doge or something
01:32:35 <apotheon> (on their percent increases, I mean)
01:32:39 <louipc> yea
01:32:43 <metacrisis[m]> I don't like BCH at all though, probably my least favorite
01:32:54 <apotheon> Bitcoin started out amazing.
01:33:06 <metacrisis[m]> <Quotes "CRYPTO IS NOT CRYPTOCURRENCY ಠ_ಠ"> Man I just wanna type quickly
01:33:07 <apotheon> It was a game-changer, obviously.
01:33:40 <metacrisis[m]> Monero is def one of my favs
01:33:41 <apotheon> metacrisis[m]: What do you dislike about BCH?
01:33:50 <apotheon> Yeah, Monero's the most interesting to me right now.
01:33:50 <nioc> well if you like btc then by law you don't like bch and visa versa
01:34:18 <apotheon> There are others that seem interesting at first glance, but I'm having a difficult time finding something that holds up to scrutiny as well as Monero, at least from where I'm sitting.
01:34:27 <apotheon> nioc: Oh, I didn't realize that.
01:34:35 <nioc> :D
01:34:36 <metacrisis[m]> <apotheon "metacrisis: What do you dislike "> I've heard that have done some questionable things like trying to make people think BCH is "the bitcoin"
01:34:43 <metacrisis[m]> A couple other things too
01:34:55 <volantaryism1[m]> People tend to disregard BCH as just BTC with bigger blocks but there is a lot more too BCH
01:35:12 <metacrisis[m]> They also own bitcoin.com AFAIK which makes it easy to mislead beginners
01:35:17 <apotheon> nioc: What if I just think of BCH as a better BTC, but am not extremely enthused with BCH at the moment either because it's less interesting than something else (Monero)?  Am I breaking the law?
01:35:25 <louipc> nioc: lol why cant you like both
01:35:32 <volantaryism1[m]> new BCH node upgrade was release a few days ago that allows for up to 150 unconfirmed tx chains
01:35:51 <apotheon> metacrisis[m]: The "BCH is Bitcoin" thing is a matter of philosophy and ideology, not deception, generally.
01:35:52 <metacrisis[m]> Monero is amazing, it is fast, low fee, anonymous and good for CPU
01:35:53 <nioc> I see we have some free thinkers in here
01:36:12 <volantaryism1[m]> apotheon: BCH is more BTC than btc anyway
01:36:17 <apotheon> metacrisis[m]: The only reason BTC got to more-generally keep the name is the foundation, as far as I'm aware.
01:36:24 <metacrisis[m]> <apotheon "metacrisis: The "BCH is Bitcoin""> Yeah I kinda see that, yet I still think bch is very questionable
01:36:40 <volantaryism1[m]> metacrisis: how?
01:37:03 <nioc> metacrisis[m]: bitcoin.com was owned by one of the bch people years before there was bch
01:37:04 <metacrisis[m]> Reason I listed above
01:37:15 <apotheon> If you can provide some more details about what's wrong with BCH, I'd be interested to learn about them.
01:37:20 <metacrisis[m]> <nioc "metacrisis: bitcoin.com was owne"> Interesting
01:37:25 <metacrisis[m]> Didn't know that
01:37:29 <apotheon> I've just decided I don't call either BTC or BCH "Bitcoin" any longer.
01:38:03 <metacrisis[m]> I just call og bitcoin "bitcoin" and BCH "Bitcoin cash"
01:38:14 <nioc> he didn't like where btc was going so bch was started,  $$ may have been another factor who knows
01:38:17 <metacrisis[m]> There is no need to make the names overlap at all
01:38:51 <volantaryism1[m]> Monero is bitcoins philosophical succesor anyway, the cryptonote white paper by nicholas is 90% pointing out the flaws in bitcoin and proposing solutions
01:39:41 <metacrisis[m]> Yeah monero is honestly amazing.
01:39:44 <apotheon> 01:38 < metacrisis[m]> There is no need to make the names overlap at all
01:39:55 <apotheon> BCH people would argue the same thing, except that the BTC people should give up the name.
01:40:03 <apotheon> . . . so that doesn't convince me of anything one way or the other.
01:40:12 <louipc> lets call all coins bitcoins hehehehue
01:40:16 <apotheon> sure
01:40:20 <apotheon> bitcoinage
01:40:20 <volantaryism1[m]> apotheon: bch is literally bitcoin... but with different rules
01:40:25 <apotheon> bitcurrency
01:40:30 <louipc> yea
01:40:47 <volantaryism1[m]> Not really decentralization if nothing else is allowed to be called bitcoin
01:40:51 <apotheon> volantaryism1[m]: . . . and BTC is also literally bitcoin with different rules!  Whee!
01:40:58 <metacrisis[m]> <apotheon "BCH people would argue the same "> Nah, they should stay how they are makes it less confusing. Would you name a government revolution the same as the government you are overthrowing?
01:41:09 <louipc> yes
01:41:16 <nioc> monero was initially called..... bitmonero
01:41:17 <nioc> you will still see this in the code
01:41:20 <louipc> good psyops
01:41:28 <metacrisis[m]> Fair
01:41:30 <apotheon> metacrisis[m]: I wouldn't want a new government.  Let's try not having one for a while.
01:41:39 <apotheon> I don't have one.  I just get bullied by (at least) one.
01:41:55 <metacrisis[m]> <apotheon "I don't have one.  I just get bu"> Yeah.
01:42:03 <apotheon> nioc: with monero being Esperanto for coin, so yeah, that's great
01:42:44 <nioc> apotheon: only 1 govt?  I have 5 layers of govt and I get to vote for each one
01:43:02 <volantaryism1[m]> metacrisis: if you are arguing that your are the real government it wouldnt aid you to change your name
01:43:10 <louipc> wow even the shadow govt
01:43:14 <apotheon> To me, things like BTC and BCH are just places one might consider parking some fiat currency value in hopes of an ability to get more purchasing power out of it than put into it.
01:43:31 <apotheon> nioc: note "at least"
01:43:35 <nioc> oh
01:43:41 <apotheon> nioc: Hell, I even have to deal with a fucking HOA sometimes.
01:44:07 <nioc> humans gunna organize
01:44:15 <metacrisis[m]> Yup
01:44:17 <nioc> sorta what they do
01:44:30 <apotheon> I hereby declare myself transhuman, no longer mere "human".
01:44:42 <apotheon> I am transitioning to posthuman.
01:44:43 <nioc> I identify as mammal
01:44:48 <apotheon> (My username here is relevant.)
01:44:56 <apotheon> I am an individual.
01:45:01 <apotheon> That's what really matters.
01:45:02 <metacrisis[m]> I am now, sentient microwave
01:45:22 <louipc> i am pure energy
01:45:30 <apotheon> . . . the song?
01:45:32 <apotheon> That's a good song.
01:45:57 <apotheon> The actual title is What's On Your Mind (Pure Energy), though.
01:46:16 <metacrisis[m]> Honestly though, why shill over a pioneer and one of its alternatives when there is a better alternative.
01:46:20 <apotheon> The missus is four pages away from finishing a book, so I'm probably going to go soon.
01:46:37 <metacrisis[m]> Eg bitcoin vs BCH, vs Monero
01:46:43 <apotheon> I'll just relax in the knowledge that Monero beats 'em both.
01:46:57 <metacrisis[m]> <apotheon "I'll just relax in the knowledge"> Yup, exactly my point lol
01:47:06 <apotheon> On a sale of 1 to 10, BTC is 3, BCH is 4, and Monero is 98.
01:47:30 <apotheon> ta
01:48:21 <metacrisis[m]> I find it kinda wild how monero does stuff anonymously, like idk how it even does it. Gonna find out at some point though
01:50:29 <volantaryism1[m]> metacrisis: web.getmonero.org/library/Zero-to-Monero-2-0-0.pdf
01:51:34 <nioc> less technical but a bit outdated cause of changes to the code is https://masteringmonero.com/
01:51:49 <nioc> free pdf there as well
01:53:53 <volantaryism1[m]> Would something like this be possible for monero? twitter.com/PeterRizun/status/1247554984968777729
01:55:09 <metacrisis[m]>  Thanks😀
03:16:22 <dknsmoaeurgc> FUK has bееn intеnsеly hostilе to Monеro for ovеr 4 yеars. Making minеrs for Monеro, making a pool for Monеro, making codе that Monеro copiеd, not using bugs to stеal millions from еxchangеs. Wow. Such grеat hostility.
03:25:16 <Guest16789> dknsmoaeurgc: Who is the FUK?
03:38:46 <nioc> Guest16789: you are talking to a spam bot
03:39:51 <Guest16789> nioc: They're getting better and better. Seems almost like a person
03:40:00 <Guest16789>  * nioc: They're getting better and better. Seems like a person
03:40:29 <nioc> well written by a person but posted by a bot(/)
03:40:44 <nioc> just joins, posts and leaves
03:40:59 <nioc> *bot(?)
03:41:06 <nioc> erryday lol
06:10:04 <mechanic41turk[m> <Guest16789 "dknsmoaeurgc: Who is the FUK?"> FUK ur mum if you want FUK.
06:10:22 <Guest16789> Har har
06:39:50 <sir_poppins[m]> any one her know a good XRM to ETH converter ?
09:45:13 <glix>  /part
12:01:31 <jonah_xd[m]1> anyone here can post the matrix community ?
12:07:04 <louipc> yea?
12:10:28 <jonah_xd[m]1> yes
12:26:46 <ern> .faucet
12:26:47 <Wallet> ​ern: What number i​s EIGHT
12:26:50 <ern> 8
12:26:51 <Wallet> ern: @bonuspot tipped 0.000001 XMR to ern [692750bb] Wait ≈23 hrs 58 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01735987
12:27:02 <ern> .help
12:27:02 <Wallet> ern: I'm a cool multi-coin multi-platform bot by Bill48105. Docs: https://bill48105.github.io/wallet/ | My core commands: .balance .deposit .faucet .ping .soak .tip .val .withdraw  | .help <games|share|misc|other> to see others | .help <cmd> for more details.
12:27:15 <ern> .balance
12:27:15 <Wallet> ern: • Your balance is: 0.0000189 XMR (≈0.01 USD)
12:27:22 <ern> Hardcore
13:01:39 <Inge-> .faucet
13:01:41 <Wallet> I​nge-: Dog,​ head, monkey and soup: how many animals in the list
13:01:47 <Inge-> 2
13:01:47 <Wallet> Inge-: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000027 XMR to Inge- [9efa1ca3] Wait ≈23 hrs 57 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01735717
13:03:11 <Inge-> .balance
13:03:12 <Wallet> Inge-: • Your balance is: 0.0051942 XMR (≈1.96 USD)
13:21:32 <vdo[m]> .balance
13:21:32 <Wallet> vdo[m]: Access denied for balance. Are you logged in?
13:21:59 <vdo[m]> hmm I guess I have to go back to IRC
13:22:22 <vdo> .balance
13:22:22 <Wallet> vdo: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command.
13:22:22 <Wallet> vdo: • Your balance is: 0 XMR
13:22:46 <vdo> oh, I had balance in the old bot
13:22:52 <vdo> </scam>
13:24:20 <hmmp> .faucet
13:24:21 <Wallet> h​mmp: How ma​ny letters in BTC
13:24:24 <hmmp> 3
13:24:24 <Wallet> hmmp: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000018 XMR to hmmp [1da44163] Wait ≈23 hrs 56 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01735537
13:26:07 <regaloranium> Hello
13:26:25 <regaloranium> i have a question about monero
13:26:37 <Inge-> cool
13:26:51 <regaloranium> one second
13:27:06 <regaloranium> i use google translator
13:27:33 <regaloranium> how i can get monero?
13:28:30 <Inge-> considered asking Rostislav Solod ?
13:30:02 <Inge-> 1. You can mine it with CPU, 2. You can buy locally with https://localmonero.co/ - If you have BTC or other crypto, you can trade on exchanges like Binance, Kraken, Kucoin, Tradeogre. You can also use Morphtoken, or exchange crypto with the Cake Wallet for iOS/iPhone
13:30:25 <Inge-> You can also buy it with BTC on the Distributed Exchange bisq
13:30:55 <regaloranium> okay
13:31:09 <regaloranium> thx you very much!
13:31:18 <Inge-> You are welcome :)
13:49:11 <mabtmoexvt> What kind of person steals from own community? shorturl.at/jmDM4 Your own leaders are laughing at how stupid you are falling for thier 'Magical Crypto Friendship'.
15:44:36 <nvtleafeapfh_> “I thought, ‘I’m going to pump it and dump it,’ because I was interested and taking the ideas and implementing them in bitcoin. The bitcoin code base was far more interesting to me than monero, and I thought, ‘I’m not going to work on this codebase, it’s terrible,'” he recalls - fluffypony in an interview about Monero
16:33:06 <nioc> <vdo> oh, I had balance in the old bot <<>> you can go to #tippero and message pony, he has db with balances owed
17:05:56 <volantaryism1[m]> What happens when the asic manufacturers make a motherboard that can fit 6+ cpus for mining lol
17:10:39 <charolastra> nothing, motherboads are already cheap
17:30:01 <ndorf> apotheon: sure, go ahead
18:36:19 <abcdefg_irssi> hello
18:36:55 <bicknell> buenas tardes
18:49:12 <PiRATA> buenas tardes bicknell :)
18:54:06 <raecarruth> buenas tardes PiRATA
18:56:37 <fibonacci> o/ raecarruth
18:57:21 <raecarruth> fibonacci: <3
21:24:06 <pixelized[m]> to whom it concerns
21:24:29 <pixelized[m]> since today i have a kaweco liliput in copper in my possession and it is epic
21:24:32 <pixelized[m]> that's all
21:25:52 <PiRATA> very nice (Borat's voice)
21:32:50 <apotheon> pixelized[m]: Congrats!
21:33:49 <apotheon> I ordered dot grid 68gsm Tomoe River top-wirebound A5 notepads.  They're supposed to arrive this week, or maybe next (coming from Taiwan).
21:35:17 <apotheon> I recommend Taroko Design for paper products.  Their 68gsm Tomoe River products are awesome, and very reasonably priced.  The Enigma A5 notebook is cheaper per page than equivalent Rhodia products, which is quite impressive for Tomoe River paper.
21:36:40 <pixelized[m]> thanks for the congratulations, and thanks for the advice as well
21:36:47 <pixelized[m]> i'll look into taroko design
22:02:39 <wajtryjvxy> I can tell you why you can't stop the 'spam'. You are thinking in cult doctrine. If it was real spam, and I was selling Viagra for example - you could easily ban keywords and urls. Instead, stop being a sheep, think like a cult leader. Recoginse that this 'spam' is just some bullshit that you tell to the sheep.
22:07:02 <zwischenzug_> 12
22:20:32 <PiRATA> wth
22:48:53 <botcoinnotbot[m]> hey is it possible to automatically ban this spamming using the index of coincidence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_coincidence)? all of these spam accounts have randomly generated usernames which do not have the same IOC as normal usernames
22:49:47 <botcoinnotbot[m]> it is possible to autoban accounts that fall out of the normal IOC distribution for english?
22:50:19 <botcoinnotbot[m]> *this spammer
22:55:47 <bogsuv> 10 MH/s hashrate monero on this FPGA board https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/programmable/solutions/partners/partner-profile/bittware-inc-/board/a10p3s-arria-10-gx-sx-3-4-length-pcie-board-with-quad-qsfp-and-ddr4.html
22:57:03 <botcoinnotbot[m]> bogsuv: i doubt that, that is equivalent to 710 3900x CPUs
22:57:40 <Norkle> .faucet
22:57:42 <Wallet> N​orkle: 10, __​, 8, 7
22:57:45 <Norkle> 9
22:57:45 <Wallet> Norkle: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000035 XMR to Norkle [45ad4c5f] Wait ≈1 day 54 sec before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01733187
23:00:57 <bogsuv> botcoinnotbot[m]: there is Verilog code, not C++
23:02:46 <selsta> who claims 10MH/s?
23:03:35 <bogsuv> selsta: Chia Coin developers
23:03:56 <selsta> link?
23:05:29 <botcoinnotbot[m]> bogsuv: why are chia coins (a hard drive coin) making claims about monero hashrate lol
23:05:37 <botcoinnotbot[m]> *chia coin developers
23:06:00 <selsta> 10MH/s using FPGA is BS
23:08:11 <apotheon> Maybe they're actually getting 10mH/s.
23:08:57 <selsta> lol
23:09:19 <apotheon> Someone made a capslock error.
23:09:59 <botcoinnotbot[m]> monero.how April tx estimate XMR: 763,412 BTC: 8,382,226 RATIO: 9.11%
23:10:19 <botcoinnotbot[m]> thats a 1.45% ratio increase this month
23:10:27 <selsta> >No. Chia is not planning an ICO. Instead, our goal is to take the company’s equity public on an American stock exchange
23:10:31 <selsta> also lol
23:10:49 <botcoinnotbot[m]> 47347 tx count increase vs March
23:16:17 <bogsuv> fpga Arria 10 on that board has 1150K equivalent LEs
23:17:20 <selsta> can you link to where they claim 10MH/s?
23:17:36 <nioc> if their claims of 10MH/s on Monero is true then I will give you all my moneros
23:18:09 <bogsuv> nioc: all ?
23:18:16 <nioc> yes
23:18:39 <bogsuv> hoe much ?
23:18:41 <nioc> disclaimer: I am risk adverse
23:18:45 <bogsuv> *how
23:19:01 <nioc> an undisclosed amount
23:27:20 <bogsuv> selsta: 10 XMR for the link, tip me here and I will give you the link
23:27:30 <selsta> lol
23:27:32 <selsta> nice scam
23:28:16 <bogsuv> .tip selsta 0.0001
23:28:17 <Wallet> bogsuv tipped 0.0001 XMR (≈$0.04) to selsta [21758710]
23:30:31 <selsta> Verilog means nothing. Every FPGA is designed with Verilog / VHDL.
23:32:28 <bogsuv> 1 150 000 LEs, 40 GBytes of DDR4 SDRAM
23:32:37 <sech1> 10 MH/s Ethereum, not Monero
23:33:15 <bogsuv> .soak 0.0002
23:33:17 <Wallet> bogsuv soaked 0.00001 XMR (0.0002 Total) upon 15 users @ 1320 minutes chaper FIBONACCI vdo Inge- sech1 RaeCarruth xmrbot louipc nioc selsta PiRATA ndorf diso charolastra Wallet @bonuspot (0.00005 scraps) [542ed3f3]
23:33:18 <sech1> I really need to go sleep though :D
23:33:59 <PiRATA> what .soak does?
23:34:05 <PiRATA> .soak
23:34:06 <Wallet> PiRATA: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command.
23:34:06 <Wallet> PiRATA: Soak how much?
23:34:37 <Wallet> PiRATA: Ooops!
23:34:58 <PiRATA> .soak 0.001
23:34:59 <Wallet> Unable to share 0.001 XMR: Not enough in balance
23:35:07 <PiRATA> ahhh ok
23:35:27 <bogsuv> .deposit
23:35:28 <Wallet> bogsuv: Send XMR to 85j4MghFDzwCRBmEtdfTWk2TGPiZuiKeDgFLFr7N3PueeDuk9dAEYDy7yZjWL1SB2i28kM63m6YNo6UKkMsfvMBgL9mbMLQ | credited after 3 confirms.
23:35:59 <PiRATA> very nice
23:37:31 <bogsuv> .withdraw
23:37:32 <Wallet> bogsuv: Help: .withdraw <address|info> <amount|all> - Sends 'amount' coins to the specified address. Use 'all' for amount to send the whole balance
23:41:22 * bogsuv installing Quartus Prime Pro Edition
23:45:26 <heynick> monero
23:45:52 <volantaryism1[m]> monero
23:47:02 <heynick> can obfuscation techniques from monero be combined with something like ipfs ?
23:48:08 <moneromooo> Can you ask a more precise question ? Your is very unclear.
23:49:08 <moneromooo> ie, do you intend to use ipfs to provide some more privacy somehow ? Somehting else ?
23:49:18 <heynick> yes exactly
23:50:01 <heynick> so files are served by a mix of nodes or similar to ring signatures
23:51:10 <moneromooo> So, monero nodes would double up as ipfs nodes and serve the blockchain using the ipfs protocol ?
23:51:55 <moneromooo> The blockchain itself is public, and identical among network participants, so they all expose the same downloadable blockchain data.
23:52:18 <moneromooo> So there's no point in hiding the source of any particular part of the chain.
23:52:45 <moneromooo> IPFS is also not meant to preserve privacy.
23:53:37 <moneromooo> The point of ipfs is to know where to find the info, with participants optionally caching.
23:54:01 <moneromooo> So ideally you get the data stored in many places (in theory anyway). Monero already does this: every node caches the chain.
23:54:07 <heynick> i think where i was going at was decentralized and private file serving ... i do understand that ipfs is public by design, no way around it
23:54:58 <moneromooo> Well, Monero is a decentralized file store for one big, append only (or close to it) file.
23:56:58 <moneromooo> AIUI, when you lookup some data on ipfs, a DHT tells you where to look - usually the original publisher of that data.
23:57:34 <moneromooo> So for transactions, it'd make things worse than what we have now, where this information is not part of the protocol.
23:58:14 <heynick> mhm i get it, but my question was not about modifying the monero blockchain at all
23:59:37 <heynick> i was wondering whether multiple nodes/people can serve files privavtely so that when you're fetching these files you don't know the exact peers ...