00:29:02 I don't understand wtf kind of janky setups you all are on to get CF captchas 00:29:02 But it's easy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w 00:29:08 tor doesn't even give you them anymore 00:41:28 Monero is the best thing for privacy since PGP. Change my mind. (from 185.220.101.*) 00:50:36 doctorpepsi: Why would I want to change your mind? You might be right about that. 00:51:39 Petition to add the ability to make payments that execute at a specific time or future block to the gui 00:52:11 tell me more about the use case 00:52:12 Tor and I2P are pretty nice, though. So was Bitcoin, as the initial launch of the technology basis for Monero (though Monero is better in an evolutionary sense, improving upon Bitcoin). 00:52:25 Note that I mean original Bitcoin, not any particular branch from it that exists now. 00:53:30 One use case that comes to mind for me is being able to transact while you are personally not available to transact, so that your meatspace life activities can't be easily correlated in time with your Monero transactions. 00:53:51 "Original bitcoin" = minus SegWit & lightening? (from 185.220.101.*) 00:53:59 Of course, that's probably not as useful to me, personally, because I'd be more likely to just script the CLI wallet. 00:54:28 doctorpepsi: "original bitcoin" = the initial launch of a blockchain cryptocurrency 00:54:41 lza_menace: ability to set up reccuring payments for subscriptions, salaries, etc 00:55:14 doctorpepsi: Which you consider more significant is essentially a matter of semantics and criteria, in the case of OB and Monero. 00:55:26 Ah. Bitcoin, pre-Chainalysis. (from 185.220.101.*) 00:55:38 doctorpepsi: In practical terms, at this point in time, I'd definitely say Monero. 00:56:13 Of course, if we're talking about "practical terms, at this point in time", I'd say PGP is disqualified, as there are subsequent encrypted comms implementations that are better for privacy. 00:57:12 I guess what's going through my head ultimately reaches the point of "I'm not sure it's possible to make a coherent argument against the statement that Monero is the best thing since PGP unless one argues on the grounds of that not representing a coherent standard." 00:57:56 More in the apparent spirit of what you said, though, I agree that Monero is *tremendously* important for potential expansion of individual privacy right now. 00:59:03 It's potential for helping spread and improve privacy in economic transactions seems incredibly vast, and there's not much that can compare to economics in its importance of privacy for making lives, and the world, better. 00:59:10 s/It's/Its/ 00:59:22 damned fingers thought I was typing something else 00:59:59 Amen. (from 185.220.101.*) 01:00:07 sethsimmons https://www.coindesk.com/us-officials-arrest-alleged-operator-of-336m-bitcoin-mixing-service 01:00:44 Arrested for running a coinmixing service 01:01:28 God bless America. (from 185.220.101.*) 01:01:48 volantaryism1[m]: That's fucked up. 01:02:03 doctorpepsi: What's up with the network IP? 01:02:52 It looks like a Tor exit node is there, maybe. 01:03:09 Any particular reason why Ledger Live does not have support for the Ledger hardware? Ledger does have a Monero software that downloads to the hardware, but to interface with the hardware, you can't use Ledger Live. You have to use Monero's own software. (from 185.220.101.*) 01:03:32 volantaryism1: oh fuck here they come 01:04:03 "money laundering" 01:04:16 That's my guess. (I Haven't checked the article yet.) 01:04:48 Yep, I open the article and see money laundering mentioned twice before I even get to the body of the article. 01:04:57 for operator an MSB w/o a license 01:04:57 Wait. 01:04:58 What? 01:05:05 which is an AML law 01:05:07 "money laundering" and "money laundering without a license" 01:05:08 WTF 01:05:38 Is it possible to get licensed to launder money? 01:05:51 apotheon: it says money transmission without a license i think 01:06:05 "Roman Sterlingov faces three charges: unlicensed money transmission, money laundering and money laundering without a license." 01:06:12 really starting to worry about the localmonero guys 01:06:16 copypasta 01:06:31 They're coming for us now. 01:06:39 Luckily, I haven't done anything actionable! 01:06:46 I'm too slow to get things done. 01:07:47 apotheon: i think they sneakily fixed that lol 01:08:06 bobbieweirder[m]: Fixed what? 01:08:59 apotheon: the typo because it says money transmission without a license now 01:09:27 ah 01:09:30 why am i so scared suddenly 01:09:45 for DEXes and tumblers 01:09:48 It must've been fixed in a second or two between me opening the page and you doing so, I guess. 01:09:50 i hope i’m just paranoid 01:10:16 Mine still says "money laundering without a license". 01:10:23 . . . though maybe that's aggressive caching. 01:11:25 In retrospect, it seems very obvious that coinjoining might be regarded as a money laundering operation. 01:15:15 Hi (from 185.220.101.*) 01:16:11 Is the Monero team hiring? (from 185.220.101.*) 01:16:39 Actually I was going to ask the same thing. (from 176.126.253.*) 01:16:45 a refresher: 01:21:53 still waiting for the refresher 01:22:40 i just sent the FinCEN MSB definition did it not come through lol 01:23:35 nope 01:23:43 bobbieweirder: coin mixing services need to be hosted on a tor server 01:24:06 https://www.fincen.gov/money-services-business-definition 01:24:42 volantaryism1: what’s the significance of this? 01:25:09 bobbieweirder: tor services have a hidden location 01:25:25 Thats how darknet markets avoid being taken down 01:26:59 bobbieweirder[m]: I'm not sure how that pertains to money laundering, exactly. 01:28:01 Does anyone know of a crypto where each wallet creation is logged int the blockchain? 01:28:17 It's certainly interesting that USPS *specifically* qualifies as a money services business. I'd forgotten about that. 01:28:48 volantaryism1: ah i see. this person’s clients were sending him money straight from DNM 01:29:13 **BITCOIN 01:29:53 InigoMontoya: why lol? 01:33:58 apotheon: MSB is only one of FinCEN’s AML tools 01:36:27 sure 01:36:28 but it’s a low threshold to get people one. the actual criminal statute on “money laundering” have “intent” requirements. they’re always going to tag on the MSB law as a low hanging fruit 01:36:58 okay 01:53:43 disclaimer: I only read headlines but hear is the actual info that the media is reporting on 01:53:46 https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.230456/gov.uscourts.dcd.230456.1.1_2.pdf 01:54:06 *here 01:57:28 THAT SCREENSHOT MESSAGE IS SO SUS 01:57:43 it literally screams “FED!!!! ” 01:59:07 * bobbieweirder[m] uploaded an image: (372KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/fHyrUwcPGBzuISdBGMYdfDvm/ima_9d2bad9.jpeg > 02:00:46 seems they can twist `intent` any way they like. the .us seems to have no issues with exchanging money so long as you're `registered` to do so. more aml/kyc bullshit. 02:01:46 will we get to the point where: `hey bob, i have $10 of btc but i need to buy a sandwich at the diner that takes xmr. can you exchange?. sure, albert here you go. sirens...` ? 02:02:53 I live inflation. (from 185.220.101.*) 02:03:03 I love inflation. (from 185.220.101.*) 02:03:17 You and me both, Ben. (from 176.126.253.*) 02:37:30 freenode_j8bit[m]: probably not something so de minimis like $10 sandwhich, but something like a car maybe 03:00:36 https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/cypherstack-sarang-triptych-research.html 03:17:04 Hey whats up 03:33:34 Not alot, what you got going on? 03:34:40 .val xmr 03:34:40 InigoMontoya: XMR -> USD • Avg: ≈415.14 • ccc/HuobiPro: ≈$415.19 24HΔ: 2.63% Vol: 76.85K [0m] • cmc: ≈$415.08 24HΔ: 2.91% 7DΔ: 0.4% [< 5m] 03:35:40 nothing much, just got into monero. Kinda learning how to privatize everything cause I've been a bit spooked from the government lately lol 03:39:26 Zach: you came to the right place haha 03:40:44 thanks lol 03:43:42 Zach: where were you before monero? BTC? 03:44:00 Nothing really 03:44:16 I was into dogecoin 9 years ago but lost my wallet 03:44:46 man that would have been worth something now 03:45:06 ouch 03:45:07 yeah im really kicking myself in the foot over that 03:45:22 double ouch 03:45:41 Why does the Saviour of NASA take a group achievement award and present it as a proof of individual glory? twitter.com/hyc_symas/status/1203709575226183683 03:45:43 Found my old laptop I had it on but its broken 03:46:06 because you dont have a nasa group award 03:47:30 Zach: are you also @the_Z00B? 03:47:37 Zach: happens to the best of us 03:47:48 nope 03:47:56 kk 03:48:34 volantaryism1[m]: It seemed like it may be a good marketing point for a new currency idea didn't know if it was implemented yet. 03:52:03 InigoMontoya: what happens if wallet creations are logged on the chain? 03:58:29 bobbieweirder[m]: Anything or nothing.. I was considering ideas about not relying on probability to protect wallet duplication. 03:59:28 I understand it's very unlikely but unlikely things happen everyday. Furthermore most people don't think rationally so they could appreciate and unneccesary safegaurd 03:59:54 if for nothin other than they didn't have to waste the time trying to understand what a probability is 04:00:16 an not and 04:00:48 i think the concept makes sense to me 04:01:06 wait, what if someone just made a bunch of wallets in hopes of getting someone's? 04:01:23 it could happen albeit unlikely 04:01:36 You can do that now. If it was logged in the chain you could protect against that happening 04:02:02 I wonder what the chances are of that happening 04:02:09 InigoMontoya: but if it’s on the chain doesn’t it mean someone can see it? 04:02:13 something time 10^11 04:02:27 They can see some public key/hash 04:02:43 not the seed or public address 04:03:02 It's currently vaporware so you can make it what you want lol 04:06:40 Zach: https://twitter.com/cbarraford/status/1386345787853090821?s=21 04:08:12 InigoMontoya: so it would prevent the same wallet from being created twice, but it wouldn’t prevent what Zach is thinking of 04:09:32 InigoMontoya: it’s an interesting thought 04:10:10 well if somebody wanted to brute force how many wallets could they make per second and scan the amounts for 04:15:37 Based link: nitter.dark.fail/cbarraford/status/1386345787853090821?s=21 04:30:46 sarang already funded 04:31:28 nioc: that’s awesome👏🏼 04:32:20 bobbieweirder[m]: You could prevent brute force wallet duplication I think 05:44:15 InigoMontoya: how do you prevent spam? My GPU can generate over 600 million private keys a second 05:45:17 InigoMontoya: you would end up with a gigantic chain preventing something that would never ever ever (...) ever happen 06:02:46 Word of guys running Monero community should be BELIEVED. Why would anyone that stole money and laughed at the losers that took the bait ever have a reason to lie to you? http://removeddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6d6okb/fluffypony_needs_to_give_up_his_commit_access_and/ (changed link to removeddit since /r/monero mod removed to try to cover it up - maybe fluffy himself?) 09:18:46 so eh, whats the point? Someone who spent countless hours developting that thing actually took some money? Shame! 09:19:52 I do hope for my fellow wowneroleros that some of them got that lambo now - or something more appropiate for a grown up. 09:20:02 ksk!!!! 09:20:06 long time no see. 10:57:38 waht is more appropriate than a lambo 10:58:07 rx-7, official car of moonero 11:00:37 FC or FD chassis though? 11:01:27 fd=twin turbo? 11:06:34 The Monero car is the most boring commonplace car there is. Nobody notices you. 11:13:41 :D 11:21:53 So, a beat up ole truck of some sort, I can get in with that. 11:51:39 Unlike an address, leaving a key image lying around, can be immediately identified in the blockchain? 11:52:17 PapuaHardyNet: is this a serious quesion? https://see.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/7f557780-64d6-445c-a989-cb3a55452d2c-going-up.jpg 11:57:13 I'd like to day trade using monero, does anyone know any good decentralized exchanges? 11:58:19 Sounds like a great way to lose money :) 11:58:34 Are there other DEX'es than Bisq currently? 11:59:44 Haven't found any, you have to put up 500$ into Bisq in bitcoin to get in don't you? 12:00:59 you need btc collateral, yeah 12:01:09 also, probably a bit high fees 12:01:21 so I'd expect day trading to be pretty frustrating - also BTC block times? 12:02:04 i don't understand why all the crypto-crypto exchanges use btc as the base currency 12:02:15 why not bch or ltc 12:02:32 work in progress with Haveno to have XMR base currency 12:02:37 bisq clone 12:02:39 just legacy? or is it chosen for an actual reason 12:03:05 :0 12:03:25 Probally the easiest thing to pinm to other currencies, it's like why you have USD as a huge partner for forex. You do coin A -> BTC -> Coin B if A/B don't have a pair. 12:03:42

Yeah I guess you are right, would like to just find an exchange where all my info isnt tracked lol 12:03:48 Ideally, you'd have infinite pairs, but if there's no volume, there's no reason to setup systems to handle them. 12:04:06 Zach[m]: there are no-KYC exchanges out there that take monero 12:04:10 yeah i see, so BTC is just the one with the trading volume atm 12:04:13 IE: You don't need a TRX token/XMR pair, you'd do TRX/ETH, ETH/XMR 12:04:19 Zach[m]: binance, kucoin, tradeogre etc 12:04:36 Depends on where you live for ^ though. 12:04:47 IE: Binance gripes are you if you're in the US and hit their site. 12:05:04 Ah nice 12:05:05 Tone got a hard taste ofthat on BitMex 12:05:31 Honestly might just give up the idea of trading and just hold instead lol 12:06:09 As with all things, they have ups and down. Having access to an exchange means you can move in and out too if you'd like, past just day trading. 12:06:23 But depending on where you live, seek financial advice from a professional, yadda, yadda. 12:06:32 ♫ The best thing to do is simply to HODL ♬ 12:07:39 I'd love to put everything in monero but I'm worried mineXMR getting 51% 12:07:49 * I'd love to put everything in monero but I'm worried about mineXMR getting 51% 12:08:02 The rumours of 51% are exaggerated 12:08:23 but it would be nice if miners woke up and gave some love to smaller pools 12:09:11 Meh, as a pool op, I go back and forth on the issue. 12:09:51 I wish there was a way we could cryptographically prove we're using unmodified daemons to supply the BT's as that would solve most of the problems, as if we're running unmodified daemons, there's not really a way to do much with a 51% attack. 12:10:54 Particularly as most of the attacks really require modified daemons, except maybe a block-holdback you do w/ network rule blocking. 12:11:56 SupportXMR now with Intel(R) SGX(TM) technology! 12:12:03 Pretty much. 12:12:19 Except we need AMD's enclave because better H/S for verifications. 12:12:34 AMD Asic 12:15:31 I'm sure you could come up with some novel attacks for unmodified nodes, but it'd make the entire thing simpler, but I've yet to come up with a good solution. *shrug* 12:34:41 https://twitter.com/sethforprivacy/status/1387382630434418688?s=21 12:34:42 Absolutely nuts 12:34:44 Like, wow 12:34:53 10y old transaction traced sent him to jail 13:16:27 https://medium.com/themoneromoon/the-monero-moon-issue-15-96440ad06fb7 13:43:01 volantaryism1[m]: Are theses crypto algos quantum resiliant? I fill like the next 100 - 1000 years our impossible is going to be there trivial. 13:43:04 their 13:45:18 InigoMontoya: quantum resistant crypto is possible 13:45:58 and possibly a waste of time:D https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2019/01/15/quantum-computing-as-a-field-is-obvious-bullshit/ 13:48:48 quantum is bullshit? 13:50:09 The best thing about Quantum Physics is that you can't observe it or measure it - because that influences the outcome. 13:50:22 true 13:50:25 Perfect Catch 22 13:50:27 ;) 13:51:40 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22_(logic) 13:53:14 theres a way around it though isnt there? 13:53:40 It's a 1 and a 0 at THE SAME TIME! 13:53:53 Will you HODL XMR or dump it for Tari when it comes out? Will others? 13:54:04 Genius really... 13:54:24 if you get enough of them together in quantum entanglement then you can view the entangled particles without influencing the outcomes, i believe 13:54:25 Counds like some woke university wet dream. 13:54:40 but i dont know if thats how they are trying to do it 13:54:42 Sounds 13:56:00 Trying to do what? 13:56:59 observe the particles to get an outcome, if you observe it directly it influences it, but if you entangle a bunch of these you can view the ones on the sides without influence 13:57:45 The ligic is basically this: If I write down every letter of the English alphabet then I've already written everything that has been written and everything that could possibly be written in the future. 13:57:53 logic.. sorry... typos 13:59:14 But observing the entangled ones will influence the one you're observing as well, because they're entangled, so the one you're observing inherently has influence over the one you're indirectly observing. 13:59:26 no i dont think so 13:59:49 Well, you're the Quantum Physicist, not me. 14:00:03 But im not even a computer scientist, so im just saying what i have tried to understand. Its a mystery to me 14:00:15 I just clean toilets. 14:00:22 i dont even do that 14:00:38 i listen to podcasts and watch youtube 14:01:05 Fine, I was just bragging when I said I clean toilets... I actually cut grass with scissors. 14:02:02 .faucet 14:02:03 Mochi101: you joke but my neighbours do that :P 14:02:04 ern: 2, 4, __, 8 14:02:07 6 14:02:08 ern: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000066 XMR to ern [07a44527] Wait ≈23 hrs 56 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01722792 14:02:52 volantaryism1[m]: All I am trying to say is that if you want to replace a fiat currency it's needs to have the same longevity and majority people need to have confidence it's secure. 14:08:10 asymptotically, it;s relaxing actually 14:12:45 .faucet 14:12:50 sech1: How many digits do humans normally have on 1 hand 14:12:55 1 14:12:55 sech1: Oops that is not correct. Try again later. (No not immediately or I'll just ignore you..) 14:27:34 .faucet 14:27:36 Mochi101: How many digits do humans normally have on 1 hand 14:27:39 5 14:27:40 Mochi101: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000022 XMR to Mochi101 [1ad977a6] Wait ≈23 hrs 56 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01722572 14:35:49 wtf Mochi101 14:35:54 digits? 14:36:10 fingers/thumb 14:36:30 fucking English 14:36:40 I flipped my middle digit at the guy who cut me off on the highway. 14:39:06 sech1, you need some Russian specific questions? Maybe like: Best Russian Song Every recorded? 14:39:17 and the answer would be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDn4Qhx-uGo 14:39:22 .faucet 14:39:23 not clicking that 14:39:24 hmmp: What number is FOUR 14:39:27 4 14:39:28 hmmp: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000025 XMR to hmmp [a87fec80] Wait ≈23 hrs 54 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01722322 14:46:12 so next is 3 15:10:18 sech1, RU 15:10:18 Ани Лорак и Григорий Лепс - Зеркала <--- it was this song. 15:10:30 I'm glad I didn't click 15:10:34 hahahaha 15:10:44 I like that song actually. 15:11:01 But, I don't understand the words... so maybe that's why. 15:16:10 .faucet 15:16:12 Inge-: How many letters in BCH 15:16:14 3 15:16:14 Inge-: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000033 XMR to Inge- [63ed2e25] Wait ≈23 hrs 59 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01721992 15:31:36 .faucet 15:31:37 azy: What number is ONE 15:31:39 1 15:31:39 azy: @bonuspot tipped 0.000005 XMR to azy [c6338214] Wait ≈23 hrs 56 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01721492 15:31:44 .balance 15:31:44 azy: • Your balance is: 0.0002092 XMR (≈0.09 USD) 15:58:03 Can anyone recommend a good open-source trading bot? 16:06:07 if (line_go_up) 16:06:12 buy 16:07:31 if line go up = buyelse sell 16:07:41 * if line go up = buy, else sell 16:07:43 ez 16:08:49 Defining "line go up" is probably the hard part. 16:15:29 but when to hodl? 16:22:37 if line go down buy 16:22:50 the hold 16:22:54 then 16:23:24 if line goes up dream 16:23:31 then hold 16:25:04 .faucet 16:25:07 nioc: What number is SEVEN 16:25:11 nah imma gud 16:25:11 nioc: Oops that is not correct. Try again later. (No not immediately or I'll just ignore you..) 16:26:16 .faucet 16:26:16 lithiumpt: What number is TWO 16:26:19 2 16:26:19 lithiumpt: @bonuspot tipped 0.000002 XMR to lithiumpt [09310328] Wait ≈23 hrs 56 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01721132 16:26:44 in 2030 i'll buy a burger with this xD 16:34:40 lithiumpt: in 2025 you'll buy a house with that 17:12:23 http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/files/charts/historical.html from the 15th of Jan to the 20th the node count on bitcoin increased from 55,000 to 85,000 17:12:49 thats 30k extra nodes in around 3-5 days 17:13:00 what are the odds this is chainanalysis trying to get control of the entire network 17:14:54 there is no way 30k people just decide to turn on their node all at once 17:15:04 why would running nodes increase their control over the network? 17:16:24 Presumably, a node cannot tell whether another is a spy, so the spies dilute non spies in the node's peer selection. 17:16:37 could easily determine origin of transaction and link IPs to addresses? but I am just guessing 17:19:16 these are bitcoin nodes tho. I see nothing special to spy on 18:06:27 What's up? 18:08:59 xmr is up :) 18:09:01 against fiat 18:09:10 and btc 18:09:36 Diagnosis: you have installed your monitor upside down. 18:10:41 why is xmr up so big haha 18:10:47 good job though with atomic swap news 18:12:25 what news? 18:12:27 link? 18:16:59 .val 0.071082 xmr 18:17:00 InigoMontoya: ≈$30.2128 • ≈ value of: 0.071082 XMR • Source: cmc/ccc/altm 18:17:38 I better spend all my Monero before it dips a little 18:17:47 How do i sync my wallet with that bot? 18:19:03 This is just a concept for crypto currency in general. I feel like there really may be a need for custodial accounts with the lack of technical knowledge of the average person and the potential for disaster if they lose their private keys/info. I'm wondering if there would be more options (preferably a fee paid each month and insured from theft like a bank etc) start coming to Monero like they have with Bitcoin like Coinbase 18:19:03 etc. As much as I think monero will see such a large gain, I don't think the average person will be transacting in it or want to be able to lose all their capital in an instant if they "mess" up. 18:20:31 Wondering if anyone else feels the same sentiment. Not for anyone with crypto knowledge, but I think it is a good start. 18:21:08 raecarruth https://cointelegraph.com/news/atomic-swaps-and-network-upgrades-send-monero-xmr-price-to-a-3-year-high 18:24:22 next stop moon 18:26:15 Fly me to the moon. Let me play among the stars, and let me see what spring is like on Jupiter and Mars. 18:26:27 atoc: thanks :) 18:26:43 for sure - i wonder if we will get back to ATH 18:32:39 definitely, the bullrun on btc and eth might continue for a while but nobody wants their landlord to be mad about them not paying their rent while spending thousands of dollars on NFT's (which the landlord can see!) 18:34:27 .val xmr 18:34:28 InigoMontoya: XMR -> USD • Avg: ≈422.99 • ccc/OKEX: ≈$422.08 24HΔ: 8.11% Vol: 478.48K [0m] • cmc: ≈$423.91 24HΔ: 8.68% 7DΔ: 7.28% [< 5m] 18:38:00 it's so hard to predict the peak of crypto markets 18:38:07 but xmr is the best long term hold 18:38:43 Yeah . . . because eventually financial privacy will become a more obviously important factor. 18:39:01 I suppose its USD price might go up, too, but that's more a side effect. 18:47:54 apotheon I agree completely 18:50:36 entry1: these exist already 18:55:11 Referring to xmr, you're just talking about central exchanges like Kraken/Binance as far as a custodial account 18:57:21 entry1: why pay someone to hold your monero when you can leave it on the exchange you bought it from for free lol 18:59:08 Why pay for a safe deposit box when you can leave your valuables with your downstairs neighbour ? 18:59:31 wait 18:59:35 In this analogy . . . 18:59:46 Which is the safe deposit box service and which is the neighbor? 19:07:26 Agreed. So non-tech users should just keep their funds in an exchange with their identity connected to it? Like if someone dies and they give no one their keys, that wealth is gone. Unlikely that most people using monero are sharing the keys with anyone that has any technical knowledge to recover the wallet etc (even if they pass down the seed etc). A lot of crypto will be 19:07:26 permanently lost when generations pass. Can't really use the same analogy to something physical as any dipshit can take gold/silver to a pawn shop. How the hell are non-tech people going to know what to do with inherited crypto without being robbed 19:08:22 Just food for thought, not relevant to Monero as a whole. Feel like there are going to be a slew of issues in the coming years for transferring crypto from relatives etc. 19:10:14 People are smart enough to understand crypto - especially if given the right info 19:11:19 you tell where to find the seed and then which friend to contact for wallet recovery 19:11:42 Agreed, but that is going to take a long time for people to understand. Most people can't remember their email password. 19:11:53 That's currently what I do lol 19:12:14 :) 19:12:55 It would be good to do a write up. Maybe I'll do that because it may help someone out. Especially planning steps because that is 99% of the work. 19:30:39 .val xmr 19:30:39 InigoMontoya: XMR -> USD • Avg: ≈420.27 • ccc/LAToken: ≈$420.72 24HΔ: 7.85% Vol: 488.79K [0m] • cmc: ≈$419.82 24HΔ: 8.87% 7DΔ: 5.89% [< 1m] 19:56:03 420 20:28:32 .faucet 20:28:33 Norkle: What is sqrt of ONE 20:28:38 1 20:28:39 Norkle: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000056 XMR to Norkle [80802527] Wait ≈1 day 4 sec before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01720572 20:37:59 .faucet 20:37:59 abcdefg_irssi: Twins are how many 20:38:04 2 20:38:05 abcdefg_irssi: @bonuspot tipped 0.00005 XMR to abcdefg_irssi [3a7b2070] Wait ≈23 hrs 53 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01715572 21:24:53 .faucet 21:24:54 KSaunderson: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in? 21:25:13 .faucet 21:25:15 apotheon: How many letters in BTC 21:25:17 3 21:25:18 apotheon: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000083 XMR to apotheon [973e5920] Wait ≈1 day 15 sec before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01714742 21:25:24 I can count! 21:50:49 .faucet 21:50:51 sech1: How many letters in SOON 21:50:53 4 21:50:54 sech1: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000003 XMR to sech1 [d2cf1c4c] Wait ≈1 day 37 sec before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01715712 21:51:12 .faucet 21:51:12 Zach[m]: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in? 21:53:53 .faucet 21:53:53 LyzaLittle: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command. 21:53:54 LyzaLittle: What is the sqrt of 1 21:53:58 1 21:53:58 LyzaLittle: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000014 XMR to LyzaLittle [88581f24] Wait ≈23 hrs 58 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01715572 21:54:50 Finally got my monero node synced 21:55:44 .val smr 21:55:45 InigoMontoya: Sorry pair not found & cryptonator not yet implemented.. 21:55:48 .val xmr 21:55:49 InigoMontoya: XMR -> USD • Avg: ≈420.84 • ccc/LAToken: ≈$421.11 24HΔ: 4.72% Vol: 533.76K [< 1m] • cmc: ≈$420.57 24HΔ: 5.26% 7DΔ: 8.09% [< 6m] 21:56:09 .val 0.071654 xmr 21:56:09 InigoMontoya: ≈$30.186 • ≈ value of: 0.071654 XMR • Source: cmc/ccc/altm 22:41:23 .help 22:41:23 KSaunderson: Access denied for help. Are you logged in? 22:48:32 Harsh :D 22:51:50 hah 22:51:57 story of my life 23:30:31