00:00:37 <apotheon> I think you kinda *have* to call that an "attack", because there's no sensible reason for someone to forego so much value in fees as a miner other than to try to undermine (pun intended) how the blockchain works.
00:00:50 <apotheon> I say "kinda" because, I suppose, one could just be making up other shit to say.
00:14:58 <volantaryism1[m]> ra33it0: bitcoin now faces an everpresent 51% attack by goverments
00:15:26 <louipc> ouch
00:15:54 <volantaryism1[m]> Bitcoins always repeat muh game theory but if 51% of pools become compliant they can refuse to mine ontop of non complaint
00:16:06 <volantaryism1[m]> Bitcoiners*
00:16:20 <louipc> i wonder how much monero resists that by being cpu mined
00:20:49 <charolastra> that would still leave 49% of pools that would happily include your tx in the very next block
00:24:36 <botcoinnotbot[m]> louipc: cant censor what you cant see
00:26:50 <louipc> tru that does help
00:27:09 <louipc> botcoinnotbot[m]: they could just do a hate campaign against all of monero tho
00:27:31 <louipc> i think... i dunno the protocol that well
00:27:51 <louipc> pretend to accept transactions but dont process them..?
00:29:51 <botcoinnotbot[m]> louipc: not gonna turn off my miner because of a CNN article lol
00:30:16 <louipc> of course not
00:30:23 <botcoinnotbot[m]> louipc: no such thing as pretending to accept, their nodes could refuse to pass on transactions tho
00:31:12 <louipc> or spam the network with bogus data
00:34:20 <volantaryism1[m]> Nodes that do that get added to your nodes banlists
00:36:43 <apotheon> I'm not sure it's possible to DoS the blockchain by mining empty blocks.
00:38:17 <apotheon> It would probably just be cheaper to spam shuffle-the-deck-chairs transactions at the blockchain until you overwhelm mining resources, I guess.
00:38:34 <apotheon> (cheaper than trying to mine bogus transactions)
00:39:01 <ra33it0[m]> <volantaryism1[m] "ra33it0: bitcoin now faces an ev"> When I heard they are calling it clean blocks I knew some shit will be happening
00:41:40 <ra33it0[m]> <louipc "i wonder how much monero resists"> Monero has a lot of benefits compared to Bitcoin but one thing monero is worse in is protection against 51%attacks
01:11:29 <N4RT[m]> what do you mean?
01:12:01 <N4RT[m]> why is it worse in protection against 51% attacks?
01:12:24 <N4RT[m]> random-x IS a protection against 51% attacks
01:12:55 <DisBotXMR1> <BrianTX> Maybe he is referring to the current situation with pools.
01:13:00 <louipc> how
01:13:21 <DisBotXMR1> <BrianTX> https://www.poolwatch.io/coin/monero
01:18:05 <DisBotXMR1> <BrianTX> https://miningpoolstats.stream/monero
01:18:09 <DisBotXMR1> <BrianTX> Probably better.
01:18:49 <DisBotXMR1> <BrianTX> https://miningpoolstats.stream/bitcoin
01:19:54 <DisBotXMR1> <BrianTX> BTC largest pool 18.2%.  XMR largest pool 44%
01:24:38 <nioc> 44% of known HR which is 40% of network HR
01:35:02 <kijari[m]> I found out why my XMR earnings was so low. Not sure how but my config.json file got reset to a 5% donation with XMRig. Not sure how that happened either because I simply copied and pasted my config.json file from my old XMRig version to the new version. I'll just assume it was because it was the first time running XMRig after installing a new version from source which automatically changes the file just that one time. Not
01:35:02 <kijari[m]> entirely sure though.
01:53:34 <nibabaa> hello?
01:53:40 <nibabaa> anyone there?
01:53:48 <bobbieweirder[m]> hi
01:54:11 <nibabaa> Is there a hacker?
02:00:26 <N4RT[m]> <nioc "44% of known HR which is 40% of "> there are better pools though - 1% fee is high, 0.5 minimal payout as well
02:02:17 <nioc> Yeah, many people equate bigger with better but you get the same payout over time regardless of the size of the pool
02:02:32 <kijari[m]> I currently use supportxmr.com but I think I'll change that after my next payout to a much smaller pool such as maybe 2miners or something.
02:02:59 <kijari[m]> I chose the pool before I knew that supportxmr.com and minerxmr.com combined own over 50% of the network.
02:03:40 <N4RT[m]> there are a lot of good pools to make some decent gains
02:03:47 <nioc> The only difference is variance but again that is only in the short term
02:04:16 <nioc> I am on a very small pool
02:04:48 <nioc> pool.xmr.pt
02:05:17 <nicopok> would you know why MoneroOutgoingTransfer in MoneroTxWallet does not always have destination ?
02:05:48 <nibabaa> hello
02:06:08 <nibabaa> alalla
02:06:28 <Duvio> I have heard that cryptonote.social is a good pool
02:06:34 <nibabaa> dudududdu
02:06:46 <Duvio> Fuck off
02:07:56 <nioc> They say that they have no fee but they withhold 2% to offset how they make payout
02:08:45 <nioc> you get paid for your hashes independent of when they find a block
02:08:51 <Duvio> And yes, yall have to tell everyone not to use the two or three top pools, minexmr almost got 51%, it currently has 41%
02:09:49 <Duvio> And after being repeatedly told that they have to do something about this, they just refused to even acknowledge that they are a threat
02:10:08 <nioc> Some people like that but saying no fee is misleading
02:10:32 <kijari[m]> Yeah, if just two pools agreed to work together (supportxmr.com and minexmr.com) they could easily do a 51% attack with over 60% of the network at the moment.
02:11:04 <kijari[m]> Obviously it would be terrible for Monero but they theoretically could if they wanted to.
02:11:06 <nioc> People could leave the pools
02:12:41 <Duvio> But they dont
02:12:46 <Duvio> That's the problem
02:12:59 <N4RT[m]> potential 51% attacks can happen to any currency
02:13:05 <N4RT[m]> firo just had recently one
02:13:07 <nioc> I was saying as, if then
02:13:27 <kijari[m]> I will be shortly the moment I get my next payout. My main thing when finding a new pool is a low fee (preferably 0.5% to 1%) and having a somewhat okay interface that isn't a massive pain in the ass. I think it was sparkpool or something. To change any mining payout settings you had to enter your email and other information which was obnoxious and often failed to apply.
02:13:30 <throwd> Is there a certain hr/watt y'all aim for?
02:14:42 <Duvio> No since i dont pay my electricity bills (trollface)
02:15:04 <N4RT[m]> <N4RT[m] "firo just had recently one"> lol they still have 71% hashrate on one pool
02:15:12 <nioc> pool.xmr.pt has a 0.4% fee 0.2 payout and an interface similar to supportxmr
02:15:30 <nioc> Again they are a very small pool
02:15:38 <nioc> #31
02:15:47 <kijari[m]> I'm currently thinking 2miners could be a decent one. I just know the website and servers are reliable and they are small enough that I am helping decentralize the network. I could go to a smaller pool but in my experience they often have server or website issues. Some are bad enough that they have 3 hours or more of downtime every 24 hours. Then again those were extremely tiny pools so I know that's not always the case.
02:16:05 <nioc> have been around 3 or 4 years
02:16:42 <N4RT[m]> > <@chr0n05:privacytools.io> firo just had recently one
02:16:42 <N4RT[m]>  * lol, one pool has still 77% hashrate
02:31:59 <DisBotXMR1> <hennyh> hi all, does anyone know how to get permission to post in #monero-dev? I've tried connecting via mIRC and kiwiirc and it seems my messages don't go through :/
02:54:55 <kijari[m]> <kijari[m] "I'm currently thinking 2miners c"> I just did a payment request on the pools I was on and moved over to smaller pools for Ethereum and XMR. Fees are small enough that I don't care that much anyway.
02:56:22 <Bill48105> .xmr
02:56:23 <Wallet> Bill48105: ≈$472.6256 • ≈ value of: 1 XMR • Source: cmc/ccc/altm
02:56:26 <Bill48105> nice
02:56:32 <Bill48105> 472 each isnt too shabby
03:05:43 <Duvio> .faucet
03:05:45 <Wallet> D​uvio: How many ​letters in fell
03:05:48 <Duvio> 4
03:05:49 <Wallet> Duvio: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000055 XMR to Duvio [168c06dd] Wait ≈23 hrs 54 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01690971
03:26:16 <anonmon777[m]> I have really specific security question. Is this a good place to ask?
03:26:16 <anonmon777[m]> Are there security flaws for using the Monero wallet private key also for a crypto lock login system (https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/Monero-Crypto-Lock)?
03:31:09 <anon_82641[m]> Yeah just dont loose your private key
03:31:18 <anon_82641[m]> It's irrevocable
03:45:06 <anonmon777[m]> <anon_udxf6fdz[m] "It's irrevocable"> Why? The only thing I will do is a signature with the private key.
04:22:39 <throwd> Why did I start running a node a pi. What have I done to myself
04:27:39 <nioc> pi sucks
04:27:43 <nioc> no AES
04:32:21 <throwd> I should be able to just copy over a sycned data dir for it right?
04:35:50 <nioc> a chain that you synced elsewhere? I believe so
04:40:22 <nibabaaaa> hello
05:31:46 <kijari[m]> Does anyone know what cryptocurrencies are allowed to checkout on unstoppabledomains.com? I know Ethereum is supported but I can't remember what else.
05:38:56 <kijari[m]> Made a dummy test account to check and took a screen shot so I don't forget and never have to do that again. Going to share the screen shot so others may know as well just in case someone else was wondering.
05:39:05 * kijari[m] uploaded an image: (134KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/TtYSTZVTUmXUmXuQQIrQdJSp/Unstoppable_Checkout.png >
07:03:29 <azy> .faucet
07:03:31 <Wallet> ​azy: How ​long is the word meal
07:03:33 <azy> 4
07:03:33 <Wallet> azy: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000033 XMR to azy [9ed959cc] Wait ≈23 hrs 56 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01687641
08:05:07 <kijari[m]> I seriously love open source projects but sometimes I take for granted how well documented some are. I tried using an open source mining program for my GPU and I had to piece together tiny bits of information for 12 issues (some of which were closed), 3 pull requests, edit 3 build files, use an unrelated website to find out what dependencies were required and use someone's obscure fork of the repository just for me to be
08:05:07 <kijari[m]> able to install the program from source. Their binary is so outdated that it only works on Ubuntu 16 and 18 and for some reason is tied to a specific version of a dependency which means it doesn't work since I have a newer version. I'm happy that most projects aren't that bad with documentation.
08:07:05 <ra33it0[m]> Does someone know if Wownero is legit or a scam?
08:07:11 <sech1> kijari[m] let me guess, it was https://github.com/RavenCommunity/kawpowminer ?
08:07:30 <sech1> Wownero = Dogecoin of Monero
08:07:35 <sech1> totally legit
08:08:25 <sech1> kijari[m] xmrig supports kawpow too
08:09:38 <kijari[m]> @sech1 Yeah, kawpowminer. I know XMRig supports it as well but I wasn't sure how well XMRig plays with itself since I already have it running to mine Monero.
08:10:08 <sech1> you can run two copies of xmrig on two different coins, just run them from different folders
08:10:58 <kijari[m]> Good to know! Just not sure how to setup XMRig for GPU-only mining but the configuration file isn't that difficult to work with. I could probably have that fixed and running within a few minutes.
08:11:10 <kijari[m]> How is kawpowminer so bad with documentation and maintenance?
08:14:08 <sech1> just add --no-cpu to the command line or set "enabled": false, in the "cpu" section of config.json
08:15:25 <sech1> Yeah, I remember having big problems with compiling kawpowminer too
08:32:41 <kijari[m]> Yeah, I personally have lots of issues with building xmrig-cuda. For some reason it never builds and it throws so many errors that it's extremely difficult to fix. I already have kawpowminer working so I'll just keep using that. Don't care that the repository sucks and that it may be deemed as outdated because it works and there are no other kawpow miners other than XMRig and maybe a couple others that are open source and
08:32:41 <kijari[m]> have zero developer fees.
08:37:47 <kijari[m]> Ravencoin makes more sense for my graphics card at the moment as well. Unless I mine on ethermine.org which gives payouts every 2 weeks, other pools can take 300+ days for me to reach the minimum payout. I guess it does technically make less money but I don't care that much in all honesty. I care more about the quantity of a cryptocurrency I am obtaining than the fiat amount I'm earning from mining.
09:57:49 <kijari[m]> I'm concerned over the fact that minexmr.com has 43.7% of the hashrate at the moment but I sadly know as well that people are unlikely to change pools to further decentralize the network. It's scary.
10:01:13 <glix> 43.7? that should be very concerning! Shouldn't it?
10:01:58 <asymptotically> it's more like 35% of the network hashrate and 43.7% of known pools hashrate (which is still terrible :p)
10:04:47 <kijari[m]> I'm so confused as to why people that mine don't try to use the smaller pools. Is it because everyone just assumes "bigger is better" without learning anything about how pools or mining works?
10:07:18 <moneromooo> Why do so many people seem to go out of their way to compare with a subset of the network hash rate ? I've seen that a lot, and it requires a lot more calculations and data gathering, so something seems off.
10:08:18 <glix> moneromooo: you mean the 43.7 figure is just for the subset of mining pools?
10:09:03 <asymptotically> moneromooo: miningpoolstats.stream/monero shows it like that
10:09:09 <moneromooo> I mean that I am wondering why so many people use a harder to calculate value which makes not much sense instead of an easier to calculate one that actually makes sense.
10:09:24 <moneromooo> OK. Do we know who runs miningpoolstats.stream/monero ?
10:09:27 <asymptotically> xmr.pools.wiki shows it as a percentage of the network hashrate :D
10:09:49 <asymptotically> ** pools.xmr.wiki
10:12:53 <kijari[m]> Well, we only know from a few websites that give only a small amount of pools that truly exist because some have private mining pools for large mining operations. Despite that it is still worth having somewhat of an understanding how much of the network hashrate a set pool has. I guess the way to fix that would be to promote sites that give more accurate results by comparing the pool hashrates to the total network hashrate
10:12:53 <kijari[m]> for a better idea. I think the reason that some people (including myself at times) use larger percentages than what the pool actually has is because we use sites such as miningpoolstats.stream/monero due to the long list of pools that we are free to choose some without realizing that those statistics are not as accurate as those from sites such as pools.xmr.wiki like @asymptotically mentioned.
10:14:00 <kijari[m]> Or, in my case, don't fully understand how those statistics are shown on each website so it becomes difficult to tell which are showing real percentages and which are showing values which are extremely far from what they actually are.
10:22:39 <CrowmacMcCarthy[> Which multi wallet is recommended for Android? Looking at Edge, Coinomi and Exodus, and they all show different value for XMR vs USD.
10:24:12 <kijari[m]> Typically the reason wallets will show different values for XMR is because they use different exchanges to check for prices since most exchanges refresh pricing at different intervals.
10:27:58 <CrowmacMcCarthy[> <kijari[m] "Typically the reason wallets wil"> Is there one which is more accurate or up to date than any of the others?
10:29:08 <kijari[m]> Generally speaking they are all accurate. It's just a matter of when the last refresh was. I personally prefer coingecko.com because their API is completely open to everyone, but their prices are updated less frequently than say Binance which is updated many times per second.
10:30:02 <kijari[m]> I can't remember the exact rate at which coingecko and other websites refresh the coin pricing but I know it varies. Some are a couple of minutes and some are mere seconds.
10:31:45 * kijari[m]  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/IBsamakUdFulCMHuKcjDBbcN/message.txt >
10:32:01 <kijari[m]> I'm not entirely sure but other websites should show how often their refreshes are as well.
11:55:29 <skrech1> Hey I'm looking for way to trade with monero avoiding big exchanges. From my internet research it seems Bisq is/was the preferred way of trading while maximizing privacy. Is Bisq the still such a big player in Monero trading or there is sometihng new?
11:59:15 <moneromooo> There's no preferred one, since preferences are subjective. It's a working platform though.
11:59:40 <moneromooo> But cumbersome and liquidity is much less than on centralized papers please exchanges.
12:00:47 <skrech> ah, thanks moneromooo
12:01:52 <moneromooo> There are instant exchanges such as fixedfloat, morphtoken and a few others. No recommendation intended.
12:03:01 <skrech> what about monero-otc? don't know much about it but how is it protected from scammers?
12:33:02 <parazyd> Hi! Is 3585 H/s solid for mining?
12:34:07 <Mochi101> 3585H/s is a solid 3585H/s parazyd
12:34:44 <parazyd> True
12:37:23 <moneromooo> You will get 1.1 * 720 * 3585 / 2.5e9 monero per day on average, over the long term.
12:50:02 <parazyd> Thanks
16:02:42 <msvb-web7> Village at Defcon 29 public meeting in two hours on #monero-events, 18:00 UTC. Please introduce yourself if you're interested in Defcon.
16:50:31 <Drgonz0> Hi, I'm a complete noob to mining, I vould like to run mining software on mu PC, what would be a good way to start? What pool is recommended by the comunity and what software should I use?
16:52:29 <N4RT[m]> mining software: xmrig.com | pool: hashvault.pro
16:55:17 <Drgonz0> i'll check it out thanks
16:55:35 <N4RT[m]> yw
16:55:48 <apotheon> I forgot the address for moneromooo's pool selector.
16:57:58 <moneromooo> https://townforge.net/cgi-bin/choose_pool
16:58:28 <moneromooo> None of the pools listed there are vetted.
16:58:34 <moneromooo> But they're probably fine.
17:01:14 <Drgonz0> ok cool
17:01:47 <Drgonz0> monero is better mined with cpu would it be better to invest in some gpu as well ?
17:02:24 <louipc> why
17:03:48 <hyc> invest in GPU if you want to mine something other than monero
17:07:39 <N4RT[m]> <Drgonz0 "monero is better mined with cpu "> randomX algo is mainly for cpu's
17:08:25 <N4RT[m]> high frequency and decent amount of cores will do
17:50:42 <msvb-lab> Village at Defcon 29 public meeting in ten minutes on #monero-events at 18:00 UTC.
18:33:52 <ragnaroek> RandomX implementation in pure Rust: https://github.com/Ragnaroek/mithril
18:35:14 <sech1> nice
18:55:14 <hyc> I don't see the motivation. There are not security flaws in the current C++ RandomX code, so what benefits does Rust bring?
18:56:33 <raecarruth> lol, rust fanatics are hilarious
19:04:41 <throwd> We're already doing something unsafe for performance wx pages
19:08:05 <hyc> there is an option to turn that off and make executable pages unwritable
19:08:12 <hyc> if you can stand the performance hit...
19:08:56 <throwd> Which option is that?
19:09:06 <throwd> I see huge-pages-jit, but even if I have that off I still have a wx page
19:09:29 <hyc> RANDOMX_FLAG_SECURE
19:09:51 <hyc> some OSs require that flag anyway, no choice then
19:12:01 <throwd> Probably not the OS you want to be mining on
19:12:07 <hyc> indeed
19:43:56 <kijari[m]> <hyc "I don't see the motivation. Ther"> A lot of people that are learning new programming languages like to get a feel for coding in that language and often end up doing projects like rewriting an existing into Rust. It's just a good learning exercise to get used to the new syntax and way of doing things. There are of course people that rewrite a program or make one from scratch and claim it's better but those are rarer
19:43:56 <kijari[m]> than those that are just trying to learn more about the language in my experience.
20:05:41 <pixelized[m]> <kijari[m] "A lot of people that are learnin"> projects that aim to do the same as already existent ones often do bring the benefit of performance improvement
20:05:46 <pixelized[m]> but yeah, not if they're rewriting a decent c++ project
20:09:24 <moneromooo> It could help spot differences in execution, which means a bug in one of the libs (or both) or a bug in the spec.
20:11:50 <chad[m]> ^ this. Having two independent implementations of a software, helps cross validate and catch differences. Differences which could be bugs or unexpected behavior
20:12:27 <pixelized[m]> if a particular currency is actually used for commercial trade in large volumes, it can start to stabilize since the market can agree on a value
20:12:43 <pixelized[m]> how much of the currency translates to which kinds of products? gets an answer people actually stick to
20:13:27 <pixelized[m]> the biggest reason crypto tends to be very volatile, is because it's often just used by a very small minority of people in large volumes
20:13:34 <pixelized[m]> and, of course, traded for profit - but that doesn't help stability
20:14:03 <pixelized[m]> how much do all of you reckon monero needs to be actually commercially used for it to start to become more stable and therefore progressively more usable?
20:14:25 <pixelized[m]> answers in 'so and such percentage of traded volume' or 'amount of stores' or anything else go
20:14:30 <pixelized[m]> as well as criticism of the premise :P
20:32:20 <chad[m]> Wouldn't it be a continuous spectrum? As the ratio of "commercial use"/" speculative use" goes up, the price of an asset will be less volatile. How much does that ratio need to go up to be considered "stable"? I guess that depends how much volatility you're willing to accept from a "stable" asset.
20:33:36 <pixelized[m]> an interesting criterion might be one that focuses on the dynamic
20:33:50 <pixelized[m]> there are some currencies where stability is a selling point, like the usd or usdt or swiss frank
20:34:00 <pixelized[m]> and this keeps people using them
20:34:44 <pixelized[m]> i suppose an interesting criterion for 'stable' would be 'so stable, that it becomes more stable'
20:35:15 <pixelized[m]> what i mean is that at some point, given that it's a truly free currency that does conform to market pressures, it might become stable to the point where it also becomes a selling point
20:35:33 <chad[m]> That's an interesting idea. I like that criteria.
20:35:51 <pixelized[m]> 'here's a currency that's relatively stable to 'things in the real world', and not some other currency/asset'
20:35:58 <pixelized[m]> once that happens it'll likely continue to gain more stability
20:36:04 <pixelized[m]> yeah, as do i
20:36:33 <pixelized[m]> it's an interesting criterion for 'stability' - you're kind of over the 'peak' in that regard, and chances of becoming generally more volatile will start to diminish over time
20:36:57 <pixelized[m]> but it also makes the question more difficult, because when does that happen? is there even a single level you can point at?
20:36:59 <pixelized[m]> i wouldn't know
20:37:21 <chad[m]> The concept of "stable assets" bothers me though. All assets have volatility, even the venerable USD. Price of goods and services change all the time relative to USD. People's frame of mind, however, is to view USD as a "reference" for value, so they view USD as stable. So really stability has more to do with your frame of reference than anything
20:37:59 <pixelized[m]> yeah, that's accurate
20:39:41 <pixelized[m]> you really just want some semblance of stability of the currency to 'things you can purchase'
20:40:11 <pixelized[m]> and sadly, since people currently value things they can purchase in fiat, fiat is practically pretty close to the definition of stable
20:40:40 <pixelized[m]> especially with currencies like usd and eur, where external pressures force prices to remain - perhaps unreasonably - unchanging
20:47:06 <chad[m]> Yeah that's true. Would be better if people considered stability as price volatility vs GDP (probably normalized by monetary supply) or something. Unfortunately, for the foreseeable future, fiat will probably still serve as the frame of reference for stability
20:58:56 <apotheon> GDP is actually pretty bad, too.
20:59:42 <apotheon> It may seem hackneyed, but gold is a more stable measure over the medium and long term.
20:59:47 <apotheon> (so far)
21:04:30 <pixelized[m]> if we take 'stable' to mean 'stable to the point where, over time, you'd expect goods and services to have to change less and less in price to accommodate the currency', then how much, say, commercial usage would be needed to get there?
21:04:42 <chad[m]> I suppose. I guess I would prefer to see stability vs the "average global cost of goods and services" or something like that, and I figured GDP might capture that best, but I'm no expert
21:05:08 <pixelized[m]> i suppose it probably won't happen before quantum comes around to break everything
21:06:01 <chad[m]> That was in response to @apotheon, fwiw
21:06:14 <pixelized[m]> i'm aware
21:11:00 <apotheon> chad[m]: My point is that I think gold does a better job of exactly that, apart from some short-term hype-and-panic volatility.  GDP isn't very effective at modelling the costs of goods and services.
21:11:46 <pixelized[m]> i suppose gold is a decent proxy for 'goods as a whole' since it's an asset peopel really wanna hold on to
21:11:55 <pixelized[m]> *people
21:12:15 <apotheon> Goodhart's law is relevant to GDP measures.
21:13:20 <apotheon> pixelized[m]: Yeah, people like to hold on to gold because its price in a given currency averages out pretty close to an inverse relationship with the currency's inflation.
21:25:13 <chad[m]> This conversation has surpassed my armchair economics knowledge :)
21:26:54 <chad[m]> Off topic question: what is the general consensus on churning my XMR wallet? If I have some transactions for which I'd prefer better anonymity than just 1/11, is churning a good idea? Bad idea? No effect?
21:29:43 <apotheon> I'm curious about the answer to that, too -- and, for this channel, it's probably more *on-topic* than what I was saying.
21:30:11 <apotheon> chad[m]: Is Chad actually your name, or is that just a reference to the meme-name?
21:30:18 <apotheon> . . . or something else (like computer confetti)?
21:31:41 <chad[m]> Just a meme name :)
21:32:49 <apotheon> gotcha
21:33:18 <kotiko[m]> No his name is actually chad. The meme is based on him
21:34:02 <apotheon> Judging by the pics I've seen, then, he needs a chiropractor pretty urgently.
21:34:24 <chad[m]> 🤣
21:35:12 <kotiko[m]> You may not like it but it's what peak performance looks like