The deliverables seem pretty vague, but I guess that is the nature of fundamental research. Otherwise looks good.

Part of it is that I do not have any guarantee that the optimizations will be successful

But deserve research

Other areas of interest are timing data, security model, anon set selection

geonic: we were briefed?

sarang and I discussed a similar arrangement through Tari Labs as well

Note that the Tari Labs discussion did not lead to any arrangement

If there is interest in more detail on research areas, let me know

you can't really expect every contributor (especially on the research side) to peg their life on the good will of the community every 3 months

some people will, and some will need more stability

I think anon set selection and other things (multisig?) seem more definite than optimisations, so they should probably be explicitly mentioned in the proposal

If any developers have other things they consider worth the research time, I am happy to hear these kinds of suggestions

I am not a dev, but having working multisig and anon set selection for triptych seem like they would be higher priority than optimisations

seems like they are all needed

!tip sarang 100

When multisig was discussed several times previously, it was unclear how used it was in practice, and how high of a priority it should be considered

fluffypony: thanks for clarifying

The new Haveno dex makes use of multisig in order to function, no?

sarang: haveno was just announced today which requires multisig

Noted

a monero implementation of bisq

so yeah, please hang around for a while :)

I have some work on this already, but it requires additional library support for general RSA groups

It's in a branch somewhere; don't recall which

It would be nice to have multisig without RSA groups, but I do not see how to do it

It could be possible, who knows

The proposal has been updated. repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/222

To quote my comment on the proposal: Note, some edits were made. Reduced time period of work, increased number of milestones from 2 to 4, and added a COI section at the bottom.

I requested a reduction in time in case the work deemed highest priority can be done in that time period

And this seems safer for potential contributors

Ye. Further work can be done with further requests. As cankerwort[m] noted the deliverables can be pretty vague. So if we had extra time and wanted to go into multisig for example, it's best to make another proposal for that entirely. :)

do all the things

"ree"search

The changes are good. Just seems to me that the logic of "better to optimize before fork" falls flat if it is decided that the triptych fork can't happen until other non-optimization research is done.

Wanted to also advertise my CCS: repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/221

Perhaps better to wait on opening it until there is more discussion with devs and communities about specific research needs

I am fine with this

My day job ended last month so I either had to find a new job or do a CCS, and CCS sounded more fun :D

#fundselsta

selsta selsta he's our man, if he can't do it no one can

<selsta "Wanted to also advertise my CCS:"> can this be funded yet or is it need some approval?

I just submitted it today so it will have to be approved first.

donkeydonkey[m]: it just got posted :)

Yeah maybe a Monero Meet or something on the topic of Triptych would be a good idea, so everyone is aware of what work is needed

Fund all the long time contributors

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In that case, please do not merge the request until such discussions happen

That moneroguard bot is quite nice.

selsta: pretty nifty, eh?

+1 for funding Selsta. I note there are 257 open issues on monero-gui. I'm not sure what to think about that.

If people are down for it, we can start moving him over to other rooms also.

cankerwort[m]: will clean up the issue tracker

part of it is user support and feature requests

rehrar: it would make sense for MRL for increased testing

Whoever missed that our first Monero Village meeting for Defcon 29 is scheduled, please find the agenda at:

It is on Saturday at 18:00 UTC, please join us.

<selsta> Wanted to also advertise my CCS: repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/221 <= instamerge

don't do it luigi. You know what the consequences are.

lol pls no instamerge drama again

what if selsta is compromised

I can gpg sign my gpg key

drama seemed to be at a lull

Wasn't someone like ginger saying we needed drama to make monero relevant over mobilecoin?

Now's our chance!

selsta: please gpg sign the terminal output displayed when you gpg sign your gpg key

what happens if you gpg sign something ad infinitum

better encryption than zcash?

Just move your gpg signatures to the unshielded pool.

rehrar: "In short, copyright Cypher Stack, permissively licensed."

I assume sarang's monero funded work wil be under copyright monero project, right?

ah, yes. I can see how I wrote that horribly.

It was referring to the way Cypher Stack has done things all this time.

But mixed in with the other portions it sounds like Sarang's work would be this.

oki, yea just wanted to clarify

changed

rehrar: check your monero.social account

Mumuks[m]: can't send it to the Cypher Stack one?>

Which one is that?

@diego:cypherstack.com

plz :)

thx

Ok

Sarang continuing to do Monero work = <3

Haveno does require 2/3 multisig to function, so if Triptych kills multisig, that is not so good. IMHO Multisig is a requirement for broader adoption in a corporate space.

luigi1111: could you consider merging my CCS if there are no objections? Now that we announced Haveno i really need that holiday :)

Yes

whaaaat Monero radio has competition: twitter.com/mobilecoin/status/1380598265326936064?s=21

Better step up our radio game

something happened - rupee can't seem to post here anymore on the Matrix side

I'm free

the bot seems to have some edge cases

afaik the bot only voices known users

was rupee[m] voiced previously?

I've talked in here before

test

there is a really nice presentation deck that fluffypony used in this vid which might be helpful for some marketing materials

i couldn't find it in an initial search

not sure if there's a copy floating around

lza_menace: graphicriver.net/item/motagua-multi…urpose-powerpoint-template/10348960

it's this

nice, thanks

oh

fluffypony, i meant a direct download of the actual presentation

ohhhh

it's a bit outdated