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xiphon
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xiphon
Doesn't look like a modified output selection algo to me
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xiphon
"Max output age per ring" is actually "Output age per ring" (i.e. plotted all rings' decoy outputs ages)
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xiphon
Detailed output age plot:
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xiphon
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xiphon
Both represent last ~24 days
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xiphon
Sorry, there is a mistake in both "Output age" plots, wrong sorting
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xiphon
The correct ones:
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xiphon
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xiphon
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UkoeHB__
i wonder what the banding is about.. rounding maybe?
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xiphon
^ they are actually slopes raising consistently with the block number
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xiphon
4.74 rings per block are having all decoys less than 7 days old on average
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xiphon
If the attacker controls 50% of the recent outputs, they have 1/1024 chance to deanonymize of these rings after a week
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xiphon
*one of these rings
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xiphon
so after a week of attack 4.74 rings per block * 720 blocks per day = 3412.8 rings (<7d outputs) per day
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xiphon
~3 deanonymized 1-in txes per day
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xiphon
and growing if the attack continues
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sgp_
4.74 rings per block? is that how you are describing the attack spam level?
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xiphon
that's ~24d stats
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xiphon
4.74 rings per block are having all decoys less than 7d old
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sgp_
ah I see sorry
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gingeropolous
aight so where do things stand
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sethsimmons
Which things?
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gingeropolous
the things with the transactions
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sethsimmons
Ah, my understanding is that it was a misunderstanding with how decoy selection changes with increased transaction count over time, and that it’s expected behavior.
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sethsimmons
But someone else please correct me if I’m wrong.
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sethsimmons
The transaction count jumping 12k overnight was odd but explainable in theory, and not WAY past the norm lately.
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nioc
gingeropolous: it is a bit unclear
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nioc
we should just increase the ringsize to a BIG number
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gingeropolous
i mean, agreed. But decoys still probably need a better selection mechanism. And making it enforcable would be nice.... so i don't think its as easy as cranking the knob to 1024
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nioc
oh look ^^^ :)
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gingeropolous
?
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nioc
I echoed your refrain which resulted in you saying something more measured
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nioc
this concludes my noise in this channel for the reminder of the year
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nioc
<3
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gingeropolous
:) ah its late. there's no machinery on, all the math has been put back in the shelves for the night
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ArticMine
sgp_> ArticMine: what's keeping us from increasing the base fee? <--- I am considering setting it close to the normal fee level. That is defined by being able to mine a tx ~3000 bytes. So about 4-5x the current value
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moneromooo
The full set of txes has a much less pronounced bias than the original sample that was checked.
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moneromooo
This is not really relevant though, it's still possible to do it regardless.
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xstatic2012
Prove that you really have the most critical thinking community. Come to
t.me/get_monero and let's discuss things like adults.
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sarang
how unexpected
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ErCiccione[m]
I removed the message from matrix. I hope nobody is falling for that
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netrik182[m]
Not visible on matrix ErCiccione
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ErCiccione[m]
should show as removed
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netrik182[m]
that's it. Shows as deleted
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ErCiccione[m]
yeah that was my intent. They still see it on freenode