woo! I finally got my port forwarding setup working properly and got my daemon to have a nonzero number of incoming peers!

huzzah mechanimist[m] !

I see there's a command `print_coinbase_tx_sum` and now I am wondering... what's monero got to do with Coinbase Global, Inc.? Does "coinbase" mean something else here?

coinbase refers to coins produced by mining a block

oh!

that is where the company coinbase got it's name

I guess the company took the name and now it's impossible to search for it as a regular term

It's late, but it's here:

Going up on Twitter shortly, please DM me if you see an issue or know something that should have made the cut!

sethsimmons: this is awesome

Please please please send me anything I missed! Want to be sure

sethsimmons no typos or mistakes spotted. Great job. You'll hear from our lawyers for not saying anything about El Monero podcast.

Didn't have a ton of time but wanted to be sure to get this out!

Don't know if where you used perspective, you wanted to use perspectives (plural), but other than that, truly didn't find any oddity within the text.

<rottenwheel "Don't know if where you used per"> Have an example? Not sure what you mean here but I didn't really take a deep grammatical pass (just spelling and simple grammar)

<sethsimmons "Have an example? Not sure what y"> Last word. Second paragraph below statistics.

Intended, but nice catch :D

No problem.

Now that I think about it that's a weird one

Because I want to grant "perspective"

But the mixed plurality looks weird

Curse you rottenwheel

Now I'm going to be dreaming of grammatical quandaries

Lol.

This is what you get when you ask for peer review!

Lol.

SO MANY REGRETS>

* SO MANY REGRETS.

Ah forgot hashrate and miners.

Will add that.

Added.

gingeropolous: do you have the historical miner count over time?

I used the back of mind 40k at RandomX fork and the current stats from miningpoolstats.stream but wasn't sure if you had been saving the counts you've been taking regularly.

It would be cool to see a little chart showing a difference in the transaction size

use the ol' little circle in the big circle chart 👀

i heard humans perceive area differences really well

really great though so far

<ratthing69[m] "It would be cool to see a little"> I'll try to do something like that for all the major differences tomorrow if possible. Goof suggestion!

is there a matrix room that is bridged to #monero on freenode? I can't seem to find it

mechanimist: #monero:matrix.org

ah so it's not on monero.social

Oh wow, good catch. Something perhaps for sgp_ to bridge whenever they have the time. I think it's because bridging requires the freenode channel admin to quickly approve which may be why it's taken a while since sgp doesn't have admin on that channel

<xmrscott[m] "Oh wow, good catch. Something pe"> It is bridged, the issue is that it does not have a monero.social address so it is not searchable there

Also, no one is admin beyond the IRC service there, similar to the situation that's befallen -community on monerosocial, so no one could even add the monerosocial published address

infinitejest-_: Whenever you happen to be online, please PM me; Element client won't let me since it claims you're offline

sethsimmons, kinda. we've been posting them in the pow channel, so i can grep my logs, but stupid IRC logs aren't timestamped, so you could plot it over unknown time

<xmrscott[m] "Also, no one is admin beyond the"> needmoney90 is admin in both

oh wait they are timestamped

Sweet, no idea how I'd plot those but I'll try :D

sethsimmons, ah, it just doesn't include the year

i did some minimal data cleaning, and sech1 decided to use different syntax, so it needs to be sorted

Is that starting in Dec 2019, I assume?

but the time span should be around november of the year randomx started ..

yeaj. 2019

and in general, we just recorded new ATHs

Nice, I'll see what I can do with that

If nothing else I can have real numbers for post-RandomX till now :D

yeah, if no one gets around to it i'll clean up the data and try to plot it.... at some point...

<gingeropolous "yeah, if no one gets around to i"> Update to mining with detailed unique miner numbers:

Crazy

holy, that's really good!

how's number of miners determined? 🤔

gingeropolous and sech1 have been cataloguing it since RandomX went live in IRC

Sadly there isn't a historical chart/lookback on that site.

yep

but is that just scraping from the pools APIs? is there some extra protocol like stratum?

Not sure what you mean

The pool APIs are the only way to collect that data.

If miners have large operations they'll use XMRig Proxy and appear as a single miner via those APIs

sethsimmons: just wondering if there's a way of figuring out number of solo miners too - I've been seeing a big push for it recently, it'd be interesting to get some numbers there if it were possible

* sethsimmons: just wondering if there's a way of figuring out number of solo miners too - I've been seeing a big push for it recently, it'd be interesting to get some numbers there if it was possible

Nope

You could maybe guess at it with nonce distribution and unknown hashrate but I doubt it

The number is likely a good bit higher than what we know because of that (and other pools that aren't scraped).

So it is a good measure for a lower bound of miners

<Mumuks[m]1 "needmoney90 is admin in both"> Not according to my client

(-community, Matrix side via Element)

<xmrscott[m] "Not according to my client"> The Android client does not show them all, only the last actives, not sure why

This is Desktop client FWIW

xmrscott: here in Monero Community I see @needmoney90:matrix.org as Admin. Also there is someone called @pablonero:matrix.org

and in #monero:matrix.org , I see @needmoney90:matrix.org as admin too, along with two other users that right now I do not remember seeing around

xmrscott: We really need to get in contact with @needmoney90:matrix.org so he can put as admin of those rooms someone more active

I'll check it out today.

Ah, it's a matrix vs monerosocial discrepancy

Also I see where my issue is already

Matrix vs privacytools

Base account

<needmoney90 "I'll check it out today."> Great, I also need to have a bot made Moderator, not Amin, moderator in those two rooms, so it can remove the spam.

needmoney90: if you get into that account again, ping me so I can make the bot join and you make it moderator

Ok

Hey Monero is now live on TxStreet 😀 do u guys want to test it?

nice :D

txstreet[m]: make sure to also post on Reddit

<txstreet[m] "Hey Monero is now live on TxStre"> Looks amazing!!!

Thanks! :D Will post on social media in a bit

Looks cool

love the little infobits from Isabella

that's really cool!

Why did I just see a bunch of people get off the monero bus?

right before it left

I think you have to ask the miner that lol

hahaha

you did a beautiful job on this, dude.

ahaha so good looking at xmr / btc side by side. Median TX cost, pending transactions etc ..

Thanks :) A Monero community member did the Isabella sprite for me

last blok: 44 minutes ago, huge clog up at the station

txstreet: love the rings

txstreet: suppose the mempool of monero has like 100k txs, would the characters all wait on the bus and get kicked off when not included?

If there were that many then there would be multiple buses.

If they fill a bus completely, then they start to wait outside the bus, and consecutive buses will appear when there are enough txs to fill them

<volantaryism1[m] "txstreet: suppose the mempool of"> Monero has a block size limit. It's just continuasly reavaluated

and the beauty of the dynamic blocksize is that the protocol is always trying to put everything into one bus over time

Yeah hopefully we see that bus grow as people start using Monero more

<tifoji> Should it be nanoneros or piconeros

Chose nanoneros for better readability, so there's not 4 digits on the bus

Txstreet is my favorite blockchain visualizer❤

txstreet: hey i have always wondered how the pathing and speed is chosen

speed is based on the fee relative to the median fee

pathing meaning where they start? thats just random lol

txstreet: Blockchain Size (Pruned) 109,349.99 MB ? Pruned ? Pruned should 30gb odd isn’t it

txstreet: thanks for info

<nikg83[m] "txstreet: Blockchain Size (Prune"> oof, you are right. I was using a pruned node in my dev environment

I will update it

txstreet: do you have any other blockchains you would like to add later btw?

nothing in mind to add besides eth layer 2 right now

So tempted to send a super high fee to see how fast i can make it go

haha there is a limit

miners are really taking their time with the next block, is the hash rate ok?

finally just got a block like 15 mins lol

happens sometimes

boy this is fun to watch

first time ive seen monero with any kind of "congestion" lol

right after it goes live

lulz the dropped nano wallet

you should do dropped little pieces of paper

that have monero seeds on them for prize wallets

and they only appear on peoples screens n seconds after they've been watching

could prolly even use javascript to monitor amount of mousing over activity

though that could be thwarted by bots

ive thought about doing that, but if i do it regularly then bots would get everything lol

yeah^

I wonder why the miners dont include all txs they can fit in 600kB

they dont like money

300kB

volantaryism1[m], i think its because of block propagation delay

and/or tx propagation delay

300kB not 600kB

over 300kB there is a penalty that needs to be compensated by higher fees

if larger blocksize is sustained then fees drop back down

heh. one cool thing you could do over time txstreet[m] is to make the size of the buses indicative of the size of the blocks

because when monero gets really used, the blocks will grow and shrink

it does that already ;)

nice.

hoping the limit goes up soon so we can see

.mempool

.lastblock

how about when a miner gets a penalty because they increased the tx size the blockchain police chase after the bus

er, increased the blocksize

the penalty would only occur if enough transactions exist that have a high enough fee to offset the penalty

so inside the bus those txs could be shown paying off the bus driver to "GO GO GOOOOOO"

heh. you could draw attention to a current screen door in our submarine, which is the tx_extra. maybe feed tx_extra into a color routine to give isabella a different colored hat

eventually hopefully no more hats would exist because we'll get ridda that darn thing

gingeropolous: is there a limit to tx_extra data?

Nope