txdistiller512: do you have the 24 word private key (dont post it anywhere)?

You can use it to restore your wallet in another working app such as the MyMonero wallet

fyi though MyMonero charges for wallet restoration

LyzaLittle: not at all

they change that?

LyzaLittle: i have never heard of them charging

lol i wont post it

It's because it's a service. They run the node for you, and restoring a walelt takes a lot of node resources because every output has to be scanned up from the restore height

LyzaLittle: they dont charge

I have not looked ito restorin g it

txdistiller512: i would use mymonero wallet if you are looking for a simple, easy to use one

The fact that you are getting invalid outputs its suspicious, i would stop using wookie wallet

I have a hard time just getting it sync

txdistiller512: if you have the seedphrase, migrating and syncing on mymonero is easy

volantaryism1[m]: they charged in the past, I don't know if they still do

I have used it once when i moved money to store it i 2020

txdistiller512: i would reccomend MyMonero, is its well trusted by the community

0.1 XMR fee intercom.help/mymonero/en/articles/…restore-an-old-wallet-i-used-to-use

which nowadays is 35 or 40 bucks

brbi will look into

brb

LyzaLittle: i will have to look into that, wont reccomened them if that is true

it was reasonable when XMR was $40 lol but they haven't changed it in forever

txdistiller512: the GUI wallet for computers or Monerojo wallet for android is good too

Monerujo, Cake, Official GUI from getmonero.org, and also featherwallet.org is simple and styled like Electrum if you're into that

LyzaLittle: i just restored a wallet on mymonero for free

volantaryism1[m]: it'd only start scanning from when you logged in without an import tho

Wait

ok bak

Damn i see they charge 0.1 XMR to restore...

let me read over this page

That is super scummy wtf!!!!!

yeah you can hit up support. i used to do it for free lol

Fuck MyMonero... what scammers

volantaryism1[m]: why is it scammy?

whoaasa

just create a new wallet and move your funds into it

I wouldn't say it's a scam per se they just need to update the price, XMR ain't 40 bucks anymore

if you don't want to charge the fee, though with the price increase it is too high

^

it was always kinda high to me honestly but yeah

selsta: chargine 35$ to scan a balance which would use less than 10ths of a cent in compute power is scummy as fuck

we had a bug in import detection

so it was a jarring user experience

*charging

volantaryism1[m]: that's not the definition of a scam

I will no longer ever reccomend MyMonero...

selsta: what makes a scam?

volantaryism1[m]: You can run your own server

MyMonero worked to standardize the API behind the server and we even sponsored the release of an open source implementation of the server for you

And in the app you can set whatever server you want

tho I would recommend getting an SSL cert to encrypt your traffic

it was a free / out of my and his pocket service otherwise. we saw no profits by a longshot from providing scanning

I use my own node when using a mobile wallet so it isnt an issue for me or anyone with knowledge of monero.

Only complete newbs who lack information would end up paying the 0.1, in my eyes that is predatory and scammy

monero price was way lower just a short time ago

they did not update it yet

^

it used to be more

volantaryism1[m]: it was an open source project that relied on people's help .. it's been around about as long as monero itself

so if you could, please let them know?

seems like the import process still uses long payment IDs

Ok so I looked around and i am not sure, right now, where the phrase is for the wallet. ... the error " transaction was rejected by daemon with status: reason invaild output"....

txdistiller512: do you have the most up to date version of whichever wallet you're using?

endogenic: im sure people would donate... the monero donation wallet has had over 110,000 monero donated to it

damn

i wish i got a donation lol

volantaryism1[m]: I don't think that's accurate

still working anyway

we never asked for donations anyway

11000 XMR if you import the wallet with view key

110000*

but that is not the accurate balance due to missing key images

1110000000

it's in binary

yes I have the up to date ver. 2.0.0.1

*114742.3789937830394 to be exact

volantaryism1[m]: like I said, it does not have that many lol

view only balance is inaccurate without key images

as it displays change as incoming transactions

I know, i am just saying that that much has been donated

no

:D

Unless the wallet is doing churning?

if you receive 100 XMR into a view only wallet and send 50 XMR out the view only wallet will display 150 XMR

even if it only received 100XMR total

due to 50 XMR change getting added on top

that's.... pretty unintuitive ngl

lol it's bc of how viewkey scanning works

view only wallet displays incoming transactions

it does not display the accurate balance unless key images are imported

I found someone elses idea for the problem but that requires me you build a sysytem, with distro and d/l the blockchain to sync up, not sure if this make sense, yet

key image is individual for each TX yeah?

selsta: damn, lol i need to go to monero school again, but still i think my point still stands, i am more than willing to donate to maintain MyMonero

<txdistiller512> nah you can use Cake or Feather or the official GUI with a remote node, will be much faster

LyzaLittle: yea I think so

volantaryism1[m]: it's not a question of maintaining it

so after all the back and forth, is mymonero wallet a good option

<txdistiller512> it will work but you will have to pay 0.1 XMR only you can decide if it's good. I'd say not worth it to me

other options are free

just realized its been 25 years since i have used IRC, time flys

txdistiller512: use cakewallet or monerujo wallet

<+volantaryism> thx for the info.hard to lose 12.3XMR right now

where do I find the official remote nodes???

didnt find any

ok found an DIY how to run a node. thats a start

go txdistiller512 ! :)

official remote nodes hehe

<RawParrot> just started running a node yesterday, the guides were very helpful.

i think its really hard to understand for new users which nodes to trust. I am thinking of hardcoding one in the discourse plugin i am working on so that the user is not even confronted with the question

spriobel: usually best to run your own

i host monero.fail, and while i can't verify/trust each one that's added, it does help to have a huge list to choose from

there's a route that returns json if you want to feed it into your app rather than hardcode only one:

<lza_menace "i host monero.fail, and while i "> I see. what are the security implications? i just need to if transaction have been verified.

> <@freenode_lza_menace:matrix.org> i host monero.fail, and while i can't verify/trust each one that's added, it does help to have a huge list to choose from

* I see. what are the security implications? i just need to check if transaction have been verified.

* I see. what are the security implications? i just need to check if transactions have been verified.

whatever node operator ends up fielding your tx will have the ability to log the payload contents and source IP

<lza_menace "whatever node operator ends up f"> okay. so it means its mainly a privacy concern, right?

yes

you can combat that by routing via tor

but more complexity to your system...another dependency to manage

all just tradeoffs...

<lza_menace "you can combat that by routing v"> you are right that makes total sense. I start to understand: all the information i send to monero-wallet-rpc can be seen by the node, right? so the node might see how much money i receive.

<lza_menace "all just tradeoffs..."> amazing. Not easy to understand in the beginning.

hmmm, i don't think the node sees amounts

need someone more knowledgeable than me to chime in on that

<lza_menace "hmmm, i don't think the node see"> okay so the monero wallet rpc still does something before sending it to the node? amazing. it would be interesting to know what exactly the node sees.

spirobel: read this: moneroworld.com

the first few paragraphs

<lza_menace "spirobel: read this: mon"> I read it but I didnt get smarter. In my use case i primarily want to create addresses for a cold wallet and let users send money to these addresses. then I need to check if the transactions got verified. so no money is being sent. I guess I would use these methods: monerodocs.org/interacting/monero-w…allet-rpc-reference/#create_address and maybe this one:

monerodocs.org/interacting/monero-wallet-rpc-reference/#get_transfers the question i wonder about is this: when I use these rpc methods what does the node actually receive and what are the implications of that? I would be glad to hear your thoughts on this. But maybe its not an easy question. I am thinking about just doing a test and looking at wireshark to see what comes out on the other side.

you probably should do that just as a learning experience

<lza_menace "you probably should do that just"> aukai :D

rehrar: Have you updated the proposal already?

Yes

He pushed a commit today

Just reading it, looks good to me

There is a comment [here](monerodocs.org/interacting/monerod-reference/#mining) that I am curious about

> Be advised though that real mining happens in pools and with high-end GPU-s instead of CPU-s.

Is this comment a holdover from before RandomX or does it still hold true?

There is a comment [here](monerodocs.org/interacting/monerod-reference/#mining) that I am curious about

> Be advised though that real mining happens in pools and with high-end GPU-s instead of CPU-s.

Is this comment a holdover from before RandomX or does it still hold true?

No, it's a holdover and should be updated.

is this.... real?

<ratthing69[m] "is this.... real?"> Account that was created in Jan 2021, and looks nothing like the Kastelo prototypes, so at the very least, probably not Kastelo HW wallet that has been under development for years

msvb-rtc: Looks like you / #monero-hardware may have some healthy competition: twitter.com/xmrhero/status/1386685988366430208

somebody announced they were working on a hardware wallet not long ago. They also intended to open a CCS porposal at one point IIRC

Right on, glad it seems like it may be legitimate then

SerHack says this is fake: twitter.com/serhack_/status/1386714099162169347?s=21

It's a stock photo of a dev board

😢

we had i_a working on a hw wallet

not sure what the latest status is

Yeah it’s like someone taking an arduino and saying they made a Monero wallet for it 🙃

Sad

i did some work w some hardware companies back when and last thing going on there that i was involved in was working on factoring the hwdevice cold signing etc into a generalized format other companies could use for forming monero txs ... and it needed to be confirmed if things like sigs would even really fit in any existing secure memory chipsets

but wow there is so much scope for hardware devices for monero