Do you also secretly wisth your mother was Howard's groupie? reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/bxl87y…s_since_monero_was_released/eq7qior

Howard Jones?

Joan Jetson?

twitter.com/hyc_symas/status/1203709575226183683

Last time I got an award like that was in a primary school football team. It had three stars too and said that I'm special :')

I just binned it though instead of showing it off to naive groupies. What kind of preson takes a group achievement award and presents it as a proof of their individual prowess anyway?

truly embarrassed for fukface how lame these zingers are

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Where can you exchange BTC for XMR without KYC at reasonable fees?

"instant exchange" works, but it's expensive and annoying

I want a "real exchange" with an account and stuff where I can log in with Tor

TradeOgre

And this is why you have transaction fees 🙃 reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/…is_essentially_halted_right_now_and

sethsimmons: probably only takes one large botnet to completely spam the network

If that, the PoW is not very extensive and is probably prone to simple ASICs

I doubt it's worth that, but interesting to see some of the clear issues of Nano finally being pointed out "in prod"

their PoW is quite bad for casual users, you basically need a GPU or wait minutes to generate PoW

or you use a centralized PoW generator service

But muh no fees selsta

It's almost like... fees exist for a reason in almost every network :D

Haha exactly

There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch

If only one of you gave Papa ChooChoo some TLC when I wrote a faster miner, instead of ignoring him, things could have happened differently np.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/5lsfgt/_/dbz0jnp

I'm guessing the spammer didn't actually write that miner.

who knows and who cares

gingeropolous: I just found the phrasing that implied the spammer wrote it amusing.

Hi community, I m a little bit frustrated after the new install of Debian Buster 32 bit on netbook and installation of the monero stuff..... monerod will not working. All steps from the github manual (readme.md) has been done but by adding the command monerod --detach the error message will be back like the installtion yesterday ..... command not found.... same when using --log-level 1 Is there another

installation manual known ? Could it be that the kernel update of the Buster make any trouble ???

qay: is monerod in your path?

angrymonkexboi : beg my pardon, could you please explain what the meaning is of the path... installation of monero folder has been done under home/username/ monero ,,, installation has been started by make from user profile in monero/build/Linux/master/release/bin all files are displayed .... and now nothing is working

What is the exact command you're trying to run ?

If "monerod --detach", this is wrong: you need: "monero/build/Linux/master/release/bin/monerod --detach"

moneromooo : oh what the fu... ok I ll try ...

moneromooo: you made it !!! now the fork is running .... Is it possible to send a notification to the owner of the github /monero-project/readme.md.... Because I think the community will not have any inflow if the documentation is not descibed well

Thank you very much

So what were the issues ? Anything other than using the wrong path ?

Now the fork is running. It was the wrong path

I can add a note about it in the README. But it's basic linux usage really.

but now how is it possible to see the sync is running well, I think the documention on github can be ignored

monerod sync_info

(or monerod status for a shorter output)

Hmm. Looking at the README, it says: Add `PATH="$PATH:$HOME/monero/build/release/bin"` to `.profile`

Did you do this ?

I'll add ~ and source too.

moneromooo: needs `export PATH` i think

the instructions are not clear on the redme.md .... with the information the job is working well now

I don't think so, let me try...

yes I have added the line to .profile and made a reboot but nothing happens

Meh, I'll add anywya, cna't hirt.

moneromooo: directly from the shell, it will work without export, but then fail from a script, or subshell, etc

But .profile is sourced, isn't it ?

Anyway, I added export.

now I can't start the monerod sync_info or monerod status .... same as before .... command not found

Right. You understand why now, right ?

without export, it's a local shell variable, not an environment variable. so, visible only to the process that sourced .profile (the login shell), not any children

qay: you need to point it to the correct directory, if it's not $HOME/monero

qay: there is also no reason to reboot, you just need to do: source ~/.profile

The README had .profile, not ~/.profile :)

oops

So if you're a noob, chances are you'll write to ~/monero/.profile.

oh!

build/release/bin vs build/Linux/master/release/bin

Ah yes, thanks, default changed. Fixed.

i guess at the moment most people would actually want to build release-v0.17, not master?

Ugh. Checking out the tag, it goes to build/"Linux/_HEAD_detached_at_v0.17.1.0_"/release

moneromooo: no I have not ..... where I have to add export ???

the tag, yes. the release *branch* works nicely though :)

Alright, fixed again :)

qay: you give the right path again, same as before.

ie, build/..../monerod status

You'll have to do that a lot if you're on Linux, it'll pop up everywhere.

another option is to just install the binaries to /usr/local/bin. either manually, or `sudo make install` in the build/.../release directory

ndorf : I did this before .... to install the binaries to usr/local/bin .... message from system by add monerod --detach >>> command not found.

You need to add /usr/local/bin to your PATH if it's not. echo $PATH will show it.

by default it's the first entry in PATH on debian

qay: what's the output of echo $PATH

ndorf: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin .... is the result under root

what's the result under the normal user you plan to run monerod as?

under user : /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games

and ls -l /usr/local/bin/monerod ?

if I type monerod --detach .... message .... command not found

little moment please

the system reported >> file can not be found

right. so, you didn't put the binaries in /usr/local/bin

you can EITHER do that, or change your PATH to point at the build directory as moneromooo instructed earlier. you don't need to do both, just one

today yes... because yesterday this way has not been working well and today I used for installation the readme.md

from

Ok .... I will do this ...... Big Thanks for your advisement moneromooo and ndorf.... One step closer ;O)

Went into a room of Bitcoin maximalists on Clubhouse and asked if there are any weaknesses in BTC. The fifteen speakers couldn’t really come up with any. I very kindly asked to hear their response to the centralization of the chip fabrication plants that produce the hashrate and promptly got kicked from the room.

I like Bitcoin a lot but it’s amazing to me to see the groupthink in it right now

they don't have arguments but they have the ban hammer!

NickvanSaberhagn: Maybe they hear so much shit from people that is akin to what the spammer keeps saying here that they just figure everyone who isn't a known friendly member of the community and brings up something that seems slightly critical must be a troll.

Right.

lol. its like they plug there ears and hopes it goes away

Well it sort of converts me into a real concern troll. Originally I was just curious to hear their thoughts but with all these consistent rejections of asking the question it almost makes me want to enter their circles with the adversarial goal

Of getting them to doubt their assumptions

which it seems they do. there's either the hope that asic efficiencies maximums will force the free market to behave more better

or the notion that if sha256 "fails", then they'll just fork to something different

i can only imagine that 30 year conversation

Ha Bitcoin and fork in the same sentence. That’s a laugh

if the scaling debate took 7 years and resolved with .... i dunno what. can't imagine.

oh come on. you went the fully intending to troll, lol

im honestly scared that they'll go "oh, this randomx looks nice. thanks"

I did not charolastra

I’m genuinely interested to hear their concerns of

Their own project

and then monero will be merge mined hopefully

I wish they had a Breaking Bitcoin community led project

but you already know their answer, don't you?

No

I know XMR s answer

lol...

they believe their code is immutable and inviolable. therefore there can be no such thing as a Breaking Bitcoin project

Was the Segwit thing a hard fork? SWHF or whatever?

UASF

Right

user-activated soft fork

Oh gaha

Definitely not a hardfork

nope. they don't believe in hard forks.

Well I started in Monero before Bitcoin so I haven’t really been exposed to the maximalist culture before and it was quite eye opening

Glad to be part of this project. So much more integrity here

well its kinda not? you could fire up some bitcoin 0.00whatever client and still submit a tx to the network afaik

can't do that with moneta

yes... no ?

pluses and minuses. Just ask Microsoft, Intel or IBM about perpetual backward compatibility

As I recall, all IBM/370 machines had a complete IBM/360 VM/emulator built in

probably still true of IBM/370 on current /390 architecture

I think Monero has and will continue to benefit from Bitcoins risk aversion. It is making crypto accepted which is helpful to us

it is only helpful if we aren't lost in the noise, and forgotten as flashy new scam projects hit the scene

hyc, like Polkadot, and Uniswap, and Chainlink, and Theta, and Wrapped BTC, and AAVE, Solana, Terra, Cosmos and Avalanche???

to name a few ;)

<NickvanSaberhagn "I’m genuinely interested to hear"> Can't speak for them but I would imagine anyone trying to be fair would say more widely geographically distributed ASIC and chip manufacturing would be very nice, I hesitate to say its too much of a "concern". If I could choose, I would surely like to see more, and iirc there is a large plant slated to open in North America in the next few years, remembering an

announcement from someone.

ugh

The way the matrix bridge handles multiline messages and edits is atrocious.

I fucking hate it.

Agreed

FIY, you want to know why you are getting those daily messages? Cults NEED to control information. That's why people like lh1008 get savagly attacked (also called disconnection) for even talking to me. Break the information embargo, break the cult. Who would sign up to Scientology if they knew from the get-go that is is about a sci-fi alien overlord? Who would sign up to MAGA if they knew what a los

er Trump is?

You don't sign up to MAGA to do a failed Viking LARP and some time off in club fed. You sign up because you feel like shit and they promise to give you self-respect. It is a total lie of course, you are still a joke even when cosplaying a Viking. Just like Monero's promise of privacy is a lie.

too bad kvrfasrgoeff is an anonymous coward

when you're too afraid to have a discussion and just yell shit from the sidelines instead

Hey all! I'm curious about Monero and am wondering what you guys think of investing in it. Any input at all is appreciated. :)

there's probably better cryptos out there for making money if xmr/btc keeps doing what it's doing

but if you feel like trying to catch the bottom of it, be my guest

also, #monero-markets for trading etc. discussion

xmr is for use as a currency, buying and selling products & services

not for investing

I mean... some people invest in currenies, fair enough.

trading dollars vs yen vs pounds whatever

I see. I'm looking at a wide range of cryptos and this one has always struck me as worth a damn.

CRYPTO IS NOT CRYPTOCURRENCY ಠ_ಠ ~ IT REFERS TO CRYPTOGRAPHY, oslogrigor

oh

:D it's just a bot, np

lol

be nice or you'll hurt its feelings :P