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xrv0[m]
A person responsible for inspecting the portion of the military used for protection
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xrv0[m]
something along those lines...
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mandelbrot42[m]
<u9000 "my family has a small farm in ne"> Hi. What part of New England?
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u9000
mandelbrot42[m]: massachusetts
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apotheon
moneromooo: Server Side Includes
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louipc
Can blockchain provide a solution for securing our personal identity and data? Can we have a self-sovereign identity (SSI) where we are in full control over how our data is used? Tune in as we explore the future of identity in the world of blockchain
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louipc
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louipc
i kinda like that idea. cut out the govt middleman for 'identity'
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as2333
yeah 'identity' in scare quotes
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as2333
what's meant is surveillance
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raccoondude
Just recived my first ever transaction on monero
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raccoondude
I been looking at this crypto for a while now,I really love it
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lza_menace
it's the most crypto in crypto
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lza_menace
it's simple but complex, proving very good at being digital cash
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entry1[m]
Yep, it actually serves its purpose and is not for prying outside eyes. I can't wait for XMR to go up so I can get my hands on these NFTs! /s
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oavmqgwxt
For a community that prides itself on manipulating people, you can't manage a single guy that spends most of his time in his underpants :D
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mechanic41turk[m
<raccoondude "I been looking at this crypto fo"> it's cool right
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mechanic41turk[m
now also think about nobody could track the monero blockchain to see you receive that
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mechanic41turk[m
how cool is that
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mechanic41turk[m
global, private financial transactions infrastructure.
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Inge-
Monero will never replace bitcoin
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Inge-
And it seems counterproductive to be always attacking bitcoin. BTC will be the premier institutional store of value, who cares about fungibility in that case - they will buy it from regulated entities and it will all be above board.
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Inge-
But Bitcoin has lost the narrative of the cypherpunk free world currency
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moneromooo
Having a panopticoin provides a place for authoritarian govts to relieve pressure if they squeeze privacy preserving cryptocuurencies.
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moneromooo
They can show there is an alternative, and most people will go there and not complain too much, or not at all.
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Inge-
people won't buy BTC to *use* it
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Inge-
They might invest in it - much like an index fund or Gold or something
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Inge-
getting it KYC'ed off of Coinbase and maybe storing it in a cold wallet if they are so savvy...
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Inge-
But you have the other camp, the "none of my BTC are KYC'ed" camp - but those are getting more and more frustrated - just look at Matt Odell lately
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PNK[m]
<Inge- "And it seems counterproductive t"> "BTC will be the premier institutional store of value"
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PNK[m]
Always?
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PNK[m]
like how shells and rocks were a premier store of value?
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PNK[m]
and continued to stay a premier store of value.
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PNK[m]
forever.
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Inge-
Making predictions is hard. Especially about the future.
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Inge-
But I don't see anything in the medium term displacing it.
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wrinkle_hut[m]
BTC is such a bad crypto, I am sad its so used
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wrinkle_hut[m]
* BTC is such a bad crypto by modern standards, I am sad its so used
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PNK[m]
<Inge- "But I don't see anything in the "> I do.
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charolastra
which would be?
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PNK[m]
KLEROS OF COURSE
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PNK[m]
jk
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Inge-
PNK[m]: go on - elaborate
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PNK[m]
I would argue that humans move towards the best form of money. rocks/shells/beads , rai stones, clay tablets, precious metals/gold, bitcoin
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PNK[m]
usually the steps in between each system took a long time
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PNK[m]
we live in a unprecedented age of growth technology/information wise
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PNK[m]
it would not surprise me that what we consider the best form of money would also grow
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PNK[m]
at a fast rate
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PNK[m]
gold is a store of value and xmr will have a lower inflation rate than gold
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Inge-
so you believe Bitcoin might get replacetd by Monero? in the Institutional Store Of Value case?
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charolastra
did they really use stones and shells as currency? wouldn't you need a scarse resource for that?
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PNK[m]
<charolastra "did they really use stones and s">
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_money
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PNK[m]
<Inge- "so you believe Bitcoin might get"> I could be wrong but it is my bet that people want their finances private and that includes institutions.
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Inge-
I think you are a bit optimistic regarding the money pouring into BTC for "investment"/Store-of-value properties, would be heading into an opaque ledger. I hope you are right tho :D
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mechanic41turk[m
*opaque to outside observers
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xrv0[m]
I'm a monero fan but I don't think we will see institutional money going into xmr for a long time.
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xrv0[m]
They are concerned about regulations (including possible future regulations) and it's not like governments are becoming more friendly towards privacy technology over time.
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charolastra
facebook has billions of "customers". how can anyone in their right mind think that people care about privacy?
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xrv0[m]
But we'll see
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Inge-
sethsimmons: what is the address to your btc fungibility graveyard?
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Inge-
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hyc
facebook's billions of users aren't customers - they haven't paid for any service
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hyc
the advertisers and data miners are the actual paying customers
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charolastra
that's why i put it in quotes ...
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moneromooo
So you can be quoted ?
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charolastra
no
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moneromooo
So you can't be quoted ?
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charolastra
maby
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moneromooo
Anyone knows whether the viabtc pool is good/iffy/scammy ?
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sech1
first time I hear of it
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sech1
went there and first thing it greeted me with was cloud mining ad :D
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sech1
I mean it's #6 Bitcoin pool, so their XMR pool is probably legit too
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moneromooo
nioc did imply it might be iffy, without elaborating, so I'm curious.
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sech1
Advertising cloud mining is iffy already
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Inge-
more or less iffy than avertising NordVPN?
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selsta
moneromooo: they seem to be involved in cloud mining
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selsta
probably not a good pool to recommend to small miners
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moneromooo
Got it.
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dEBRUYNE
Slush pool may be a better recommendation, oldest pool basically and essentially same team as Trezor
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dEBRUYNE
^ moneromooo
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mechanic41turk[m
<xrv0[m] "I'm a monero fan but I don't thi"> We don't need them
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mechanic41turk[m
The important stuff is being able to transact privately,without asking for permission from anyone.
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mechanic41turk[m
Bankers can go suck on a big one..
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moneromooo
Not on the list I saw though. Not sure I want to bother listing the < 0.1% pools :D
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moneromooo
Except mine later I guess.
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moneromooo
I mean some of the names on the list I'd never heard before even so... I'm not going to vet, just remove obvious shit like minergate.
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dEBRUYNE
moneromooo: Sorry, thought we were talking about BTC pools :p
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moneromooo
Oh, sorry for the confusion :)
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dEBRUYNE
I should read more properly :p
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PapuaHardyNet
how the hell is it easier to buy NFTs than to buy XMR, shit
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moneromooo
Probably because some people made fancy looking easy to use websites for it :)
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thehunter
where can i exchange coins
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thehunter
for example bitcoin against monero
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thehunter
or any other crypto
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moneromooo
Various centralized exchanges like binance, kraken, poloniex. Decentralized ones like bisq. Localmonero to deal with someone else.
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moneromooo
There are also quick one shot exchanges like... er..... can't remember a name. One's called almost shapeshift.
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thehunter
thx
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charolastra
isn't it built into Cake wallet now, too?
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thehunter
u can sign in annonymously on bisq?
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thehunter
which cryptos has it?
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shillo
bisq is a nightmare to use compared to a centralized exchange. And it requires you to hold some bitcoin as collateral in order to use it
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thehunter
thats no problem
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thehunter
the bitcoin
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mbxojuujellr
There are multiple psychological hooks to keep Monero community members in place. Here is one:
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mbxojuujellr
-
mbxojuujellr
Notice that Scientologists don't stand on street corners saying "Would you like to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Xenu?"
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mbxojuujellr
Put yourself instead in the shoes of someone who spent $10,000 and 2-3 years of their life on their courses
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mbxojuujellr
And you get a bunch of bad sci-fi - you have two choices:
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mbxojuujellr
- either swallow a very bitter pill that you wasted a pile of money and a portion of your life
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mbxojuujellr
- or swallow the sci-fi, and from that point on, you will swallow _anything_ they tell you.
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mbxojuujellr
In the cult trade that's called "insider doctrine".
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mbxojuujellr
Would you like to talk about our Lord and Saviour of NASA, Howard Chu?
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mbxojuujellr
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thehunter
but when u say it a nightmare to use
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thehunter
then i raather use
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thehunter
ahm
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thehunter
binance
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thehunter
is it anonymous to use?
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thehunter
yea it is
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thehunter
till 2 btc
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thehunter
a month
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entry1[m]
Guys we have to dump xmr, the bot must be right
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hmmmmm
It's looking like I had ~1200 xmr stolen on 2020-12-05 :(
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thehunter
what did the bot say entry1[m] ?
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hmmmmm
I'm still trying to figure out how this could have happened. The transaction that drained my wallet was about 10k blocks after my last intentional transaction
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sech1
Did you open your wallet on an insecure PC?
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hmmmmm
It's a Windows machine, with the only purpose being for xmr activity.
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sech1
Either seed leaked or wallet file and password leaked somewhere
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sech1
Or your machine was infected
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selsta
which wallet did you use?
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hmmmmm
the CLI, along with a private full node
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selsta
how did you store your seed?
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selsta
offline on paper only?
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hmmmmm
No, it's stored in a 1password vault. Pretty dumb I know. What's interesting is that there are also keys for btc and a few others in the same vault, which haven't been touched
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charolastra
you can't validate your choice of OS. but did you at least verify the monero software?
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sech1
Using a Windows machine is already a mistake. Dedicated Linux installation on a USB drive or better a hardware wallet is needed for such amounts
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hmmmmm
I understand how to improve my wallet choices in the future, I'm just trying to figure out what exactly was compromised
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sech1
If you still have monero-wallet-cli.exe, you can compare it with the official one
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sech1
also boot a live USB with some good antivirus and do a full scan of the Windows machine you used
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hmmmmm
Is it possible a corrupted chainstate could result in the appearance of lost funds?
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selsta
is there an outgoing transaction that you find on the block explorer?
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hmmmmm
Besides the tx that appears to have drained the wallet?
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hmmmmm
Also, it looks like the last transaction I made was using monero v16.0.1, anyone have the hashes for that version handy?
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selsta
hmm that does not add up
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selsta
we hard forked to v0.17
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sech1
-
hmmmmm
Thanks, I'll check
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sech1
Did you send that transaction before the last hardfork?
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hmmmmm
I'm comparing the versions I have downloaded with the date of the fraudulent transaction
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selsta
if your last transaction was 10k blocks before 2020-12-05 with v0.16 then you did the transaction on the wrong chain
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sech1
You need to download latest release and restore your wallet from seed
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sech1
to be sure
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hmmmmm
I just did that with the wallet, but should I do that with monerod as well?
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sech1
yes
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hmmmmm
Alright, I'll try that
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hmmmmm
Is there a sane image host service anymore that I could use here?
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charolastra
sane as in?
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moneromooo
i.bb.co seems sane (at least you can view links to images there without JS).
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hmmmmm
I only have exe files from the archives, are there hashes for those?
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sech1
check hashes for the whole archive you downloaded
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hmmmmm
Archive is no longer around on this machine
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sech1
Before you restore your wallet from seed, double check the machine is safe
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charolastra
better nuke the whole OS!
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sech1
Download the official release, check hash of .zip file then unpack it and compare hash of .exe file
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selsta
-
hmmmmm
Thanks sech1, I'm scrambled right now and not thinking right. I just checked the hashes and everything is correct for monero-wallet-cli.exe
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hmmmmm
moneromooo bad link?
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hmmmmm
for the image hosting service
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charolastra
i'd restore the wallet on a different machine and don't do the full node option. they you'll know for certain in a few minutes
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moneromooo
Sorry, i.ibb.co
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moneromooo
I just know I can see images posted there without JS/cookies, nohting else :)
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selsta
if you used v0.16 to transact during December 2020 then you transacted on the wrong chain, I would suggest to restore with v0.17.1.9 on a clean computer
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hmmmmm
I think since the monero-wallet-cli.exe is verified, that leaves either a compromised machine, or a comprised 1password vault that has BTC and other keys which were left untouched
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hmmmmm
selsta thanks, I'm going to restore chainstate from scratch, although I'm fairly certain I already did that on v0.17
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selsta
both daemon and wallet have to be 0.17
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moneromooo
How did you create that wallet, out of curiosity ? Mostly, which software ?
-
astreknet
Anybody succeded installing monerod on OpenBSD?
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moneromooo
ndorf did I think.
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astreknet
whois ndorf
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moneromooo
There was a PR needed for openbsd, somene might the link, I don't have it handy.
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astreknet
sorry i forgot /
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hmmmmm
-
hmmmmm
here's what I'm looking at, trying to piece together timelines with my actions and the fraudulent transaction. They don't really make sense.
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moneromooo
Oh, found it. It got merged a couple days ago, so if you don't have a more recent version, try pulling.
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sech1
Do you have the transaction hash? If it can be found on xmrchain.net then it's gone for good
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hmmmmm
-
hmmmmm
The magnitude of this loss hasn't hit me yet, I just opened the wallet today, for the first time in almost 6 months. I think I'm rationalizing around it and expecting there to be some bug or some forgotten memory of moving the funds.
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charolastra
i hope this is a new version of "boating accident" :(
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hmmmmm
Yeah, this is the kind of thing that keeps you up at night for the rest of your life
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selsta
:/
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mechanic41turk[m
<hmmmmm "It's looking like I had ~1200 xm"> damn son
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hmmmmm
Yeah. F in the chat I suppose.
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mechanic41turk[m
my heart goes out to you
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mechanic41turk[m
so, you think someone was able to breach into your lastpass vault or something?
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hmmmmm
It's 1password, which I think is at least slightly better than lastpass as far as track record goes. But, I'm skeptical it was that, because there is BTC and ETH in that vault as well. Very strange that xmr would be taken but not the others
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hmmmmm
The machine is also a clean Windows machine.
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hmmmmm
Very confused at what was compromised here.
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mechanic41turk[m
tough to crack
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rupee[m]
Just so you know, there is no such thing as a "clean" Windows 10 machine. It comes stock with a keylogger and passwords are sent to Microsoft:
privacytools.io/operating-systems/#win10
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mechanic41turk[m
yeah
-
rupee[m]
I assume you checked any exchange accounts you have and other wallets to make sure you didn't send to yourself?
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charolastra
on the brigh side: you made Rajesh in the indian Microsoft Support Center very happy
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mechanic41turk[m
sankee
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mechanic41turk[m
t
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selsta
hmmmmm: which wallet did you use to initially create the seed?
-
hmmmmm
I understand how bad Windows is, but it's not doing things like sending private keys to anyone with a default installation
-
Quotes
fuck windows, use linux!
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hmmmmm
Also, tips on how to improve wallet safety in the future are not really useful for me right now
-
hmmmmm
@sels
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Mochi101
.faucet
-
Wallet
Mochi101: Of 4 or 0, which is 4
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Mochi101
4
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Wallet
Mochi101: @bonuspot tipped 0.000004 XMR to Mochi101 [b0223708] Wait ≈1 day 1 sec before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01224708
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hmmmmm
selsta, what as the first tool available to create wallets?
-
Mochi101
simplewallet
-
selsta
no, how did you create the seed initially
-
selsta
did you use some online seed generator? monero-wallet-cli?
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hmmmmm
I don't recall. It was within the first few months or so of monero existing
-
selsta
could also be possible that your wallet was compromised earlier and the attacker waited
-
selsta
difficult to say afterwards
-
gingeropolous
is the machine xmr-only or cryptocurrency only?
-
ieatglueinthegul
<rupee[m] "Just so you know, there is no su"> Thats fud, as far as privacy goes, a gnu/linux bots is obviously superior but it is hardly more secure than a windows one, in fact, the opposite is oftentimes the case
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ieatglueinthegul
* Thats fud, as far as privacy goes, a gnu/linux box is obviously superior but it is hardly more secure than a windows one, in fact, the opposite is oftentimes the case
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rupee[m]
maybe, if you trust microsoft and their employees.
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moneromooo
History is littered with the corpses of those who trusted microsoft.
-
» moneromooo looks at github and feels unsure how close to 0 the countdown is
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rupee[m]
the idea that privacy and security is a tradeoff is a false one. Perfect privacy is perfect security.
-
sech1
gingeropolous good point. Some random shitcoin wallets are often stealers.
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ieatglueinthegul
I dont trust microsoft at all but its a common misconception to think that linux is actually secure
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rupee[m]
fair
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xrv0[m]
.faucet
-
Wallet
xrv0[m]: Access denied for faucet. Are you logged in?
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xrv0[m]
.login
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xrv0[m]
.help
-
Wallet
xrv0[m]: Access denied for help. Are you logged in?
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xrv0[m]
.register
-
Wallet
xrv0[m]: /msg NickServ help -
freenode.net/kb/answer/registration - WARNING! DO NOT ISSUE /msg COMMANDS IN CHANNEL! You risk exposing email/pass to everyone..
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XDiGiggled
Hello
-
hmmmmm
One of my good friends is a security engineer at ms working on the OS. Default Windows installations do not send private keys or anything like that to ms.
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nioc
.balance
-
Wallet
nioc: • Your balance is: 0.0057656 XMR (≈1.48 USD)
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hmmmmm
gingeropolous the machine was only ever used for XMR. nothing else, no other crypto currencies.
-
hmmmmm
selsta
-
hmmmmm
> could also be possible that your wallet was compromised earlier and the attacker waited
-
hmmmmm
Possibly, but would be pretty strange. The wallet had something like 2500 xmr over the years
-
selsta
i don't remember any stolen coins reports in the last months
-
selsta
so probability wise it is most likely a compromised machine / compromised way the seed was stored / transferred
-
selsta
but yea not helpful I know
-
PapuaHardyNet
-
PapuaHardyNet
A very interesting paper regarding a negative correlation between financial literacy and attituted towards cryptocurrency.
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nioc
.faucet
-
Wallet
nioc: Half of two
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nioc
1
-
Wallet
nioc: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000058 XMR to nioc [dfba5323] Wait ≈23 hrs 59 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01224128
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Mochi101
first time hey nioc
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nioc
only thinking of you
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rupee[m]
.faucet
-
Wallet
rupee[m]: How many digits is 5466
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nioc
5
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rupee[m]
4
-
Wallet
rupee[m]: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000037 XMR to rupee[m] [56f7766a] Wait ≈23 hrs 57 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01223758
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rupee[m]
jerk
-
rupee[m]
:-p
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nioc
average was closest to 5
-
nioc
guess i misunderstood the question again :(
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Mochi101
.c (5+4+6+6)/4
-
Wallet
Mochi101: (5+4+6+6)/4 - invalid amount (not a number)
-
Mochi101
.help
-
Wallet
Mochi101: I'm a cool multi-coin multi-platform bot by Bill48105. Docs:
bill48105.github.io/wallet | My core commands: .balance .deposit .faucet .ping .soak .tip .val .withdraw | .help <games|share|misc|other> to see others | .help <cmd> for more details.
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Mochi101
.help c
-
Wallet
Mochi101: Help: .c - Shows entered temperature in Celcius
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Bill48105
what up moch
-
Bill48105
.c 100
-
Wallet
Bill48105: 100F -> ≈37.78C
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rupee[m]
monerobux isn't in this channel Mochi101
-
Mochi101
oh darn.. I thought I discovered an exploit
-
Mochi101
:P
-
Bill48105
.calc (5+4+6+6)/4
-
Wallet
Bill48105: 5.25
-
Mochi101
I see (no pun intended)
-
Bill48105
.calc Mochi101 + Bill48105 {Mochi101=101}
-
Wallet
Bill48105: 170
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Mochi101
.calc Bill48105 + Mochi101 - 69
-
Wallet
Mochi101: ERROR: Unrecognized variable: 'Mochi101'
-
Mochi101
I'll stick to the faucet.
-
Mochi101
:P
-
Bill48105
my nick is pre-defined as 69. you'd need to define yours as a value like i did
-
Mochi101
I thought it stuck until it was redefined
-
Mochi101
Some othere bots do it that way.
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Bill48105
ahh nah but that could work if i was careful about storing to prevent abuse
-
Mochi101
How would someone abuse that?
-
Bill48105
never know. people love to find ways ;)
-
moneromooo
for i in `seq 1000000`; do ....
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moneromooo
a var with a 10k char name+i. Eat up disk ?
-
Mochi101
oh jeese... I read that as something else
-
Bill48105
right that's why stuff is sanitized on input. including max/len limits
-
Bill48105
.calc 1/0
-
Wallet
Bill48105: ERROR: Division by 0 kills baby shibes
-
moneromooo
.calc 1/0.0000000000000000000000000000001
-
Wallet
moneromooo: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command.
-
Wallet
moneromooo: ERROR: Large dildos kill baby shibes!
-
Bill48105
but yeah there;s checks on things
-
moneromooo
How did it manage to interpret that as a coin setting...
-
Mochi101
no kidding
-
Bill48105
it didn't
-
PapuaHardyNet
wtf is a babe shibe
-
Mochi101
.calc 1/0.0000000000000000000000000000001
-
Wallet
Mochi101: ERROR: Large dildos kill baby shibes!
-
Mochi101
first time interaction with the bot sets coin?
-
Bill48105
you had not run a bot command since i added the auto default coin function
-
moneromooo
.calc 1/(Bill48105 - 69)
-
Wallet
moneromooo: ERROR: Division by 0 kills baby shibes
-
moneromooo
.calc 1/(0/1)
-
Wallet
moneromooo: ERROR: Division by 0 kills baby shibes
-
Bill48105
and yes it does same for large #s like exponents
-
Mochi101
.calc 1/1.0e10
-
Wallet
Mochi101: ERROR: Unexpected character found: 'e' at index 5
-
moneromooo
I know, I tried :D
-
Bill48105
no scientific notation
-
Mochi101
.python
-
nioc
Mochi101: you really need a calculator for that?
-
Bill48105
(new toys)
-
moneromooo
.calc 1/-0
-
Wallet
moneromooo: ERROR: Division by 0 kills baby shibes
-
PapuaHardyNet
jesus
-
Mochi101
nioc, there's someone present in the room that loves it when people use bots as calculators. So I like to do it whenever possible.
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PapuaHardyNet
what is a shibe and why is a baby shibe being murdered
-
» Mochi101 pokes moneromooo
-
Bill48105
lol it was a joke because someone in doge channel was trying those things
-
Mochi101
PapuaHardyNet, Shibe is the breed of dog the doge dog is.
-
PapuaHardyNet
I see
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Mochi101
Or Shiba Inu
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Bill48105
but yeah it was punishment for their attempts & never got changed
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nioc
1 mochi + 1 mooo =
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Mochi101
moochi?
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nioc
I wonder wen I will banned for spam
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Mochi101
.ban nioc spam
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Wallet
Mochi101: Access denied for ban. Are you logged in?
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Mochi101
Yes
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Bill48105
DENIED
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Bill48105
not admin. no 2fa. not unlocked.
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Bill48105
if you give the bot op i can show you how it works :D
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Mochi101
.op Wallet
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Wallet
Mochi101: Access denied for op. Are you logged in?
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Bill48105
shibe killer is also the reason why the bot retaliates if you try to use commands against it
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Bill48105
i should update those to not output anything unless bot is op to be less spammy
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Mochi101
Yeah
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Mochi101
That'd be a good update.
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Bill48105
or just don't run em lol
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Bill48105
but yeah on my todo
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Mochi101
Is your bot open sauce?
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Bill48105
open in my editor
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Mochi101
hehehe
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Mochi101
You have a bit of a sense of humor Bill48105
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Mochi101
I bet your mother backhanded you a lot when you were little.
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Bill48105
;) but no it's not. it's meant to be more of a service. not really much point in anyone else running copies
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Bill48105
lol not really but got a lot of dirty looks & sighs
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Mochi101
You run one on every IRC network Bill48105 ?
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Bill48105
not every but multiple. should work with about any depending on what daemon they use
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Bill48105
.servers
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Wallet
Bill48105: Status: • discord: On • freenode: On • keybase: On • reddit: On • slack: On • hmail: On • rizon: On • oftc: On • twitch: On • matrix: On • telegram: On
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Bill48105
so freenode hmail oftc & twitch
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Mochi101
rizon
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Bill48105
oops yeah missed that one eh
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Mochi101
Are there any special features for the rizon network?
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Bill48105
not that i am aware of. such as what
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Mochi101
I don't know Bill48105
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Bill48105
btw for those not in #tippero fluffy announced via topic that manual withdrawals from tippero was being processed if you contact them
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Mochi101
I've asked the Freenode Ops to implement something with their Chanserv... I mean, it's always giving out ops or voice. I was thinking it could randomly give out Covid or AIDS... or Bubble gum... fun stuff like that.
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Bill48105
lol umm
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Mochi101
They're not really receptive to the awesome idea though.
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Bill48105
cant imagine why
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Mochi101
right?
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Mochi101
I mean, wouldn't it be awesome if you went to a channel and ChanServ announces that it gave you a wedgie?
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Bill48105
kek
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Mochi101
I think it'd be so fun. It'd probably revive the interest in IRC and give it a second life.
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Bill48105
awesome for the 1st 30 seconds until the channel was over-run with the noise of people reconnecting to see every message possible
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hmmmmm
well, I pulled up my xmr ledger balance in case I had sent it but forgot. and I have 1.6 XMR. down from 1200 XMR stolen.
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entry1[m]
<hmmmmm "well, I pulled up my xmr ledger "> 1200 XMR or $1200 XMR
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hmmmmm
1200 xmr
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gingeropolous
ugh
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entry1[m]
Why wouldn't all of it be taken if it were compromised?
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Mochi101
No kidding.
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zone117x
ledger keys are separate. I was hoping I had moved my balance to the ledger account and somehow forgotten
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zone117x
I still don't see the likely cause of how this could have happened
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entry1[m]
It would be odd if it were compromised for it not to be filly drained. Almost seems like it was a test wallet to try sending it from the large wallet you had
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entry1[m]
* It would be odd if it were compromised for it not to be fully drained. Almost seems like it was a test wallet to try sending it from the large wallet you had
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zone117x
the non-hardware device account is fully drained.
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entry1[m]
Can't he see the transaction history for the wallet, or was that the link provided earlier?
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zone117x
it doesn't provide any helpful information
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Mochi101
.calc 1200*250
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Wallet
Mochi101: 300000
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Mochi101
I think I got it now Bill48105
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Bill48105
you got what?
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Mochi101
The calculator command
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Bill48105
lol
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gingeropolous
i mean, if it was the password app that was compromised somehow, its possible they chose to go after the monero because they know its untraceable.
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gingeropolous
so you should probably move the other stuff thats in there.
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gingeropolous
well, who am i to recommend things. but thats what i would do. i dunno man.
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entry1[m]
<zone117x "it doesn't provide any helpful i"> Wouldn't it show that the 1200 XMR was at some point sent from the wallet?
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fluffypony
entry1[m]: he posted the txid further up
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fluffypony
zone117x: if the machine was XMR only then an attacker may not have realised they had access to BTC
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entry1[m]
<fluffypony "entry1: he posted the txid furth"> Gotcha, just doesn't show amounts as intended for that. That could only be accessed in his wallet
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fluffypony
ah yeah I see what you were asking
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y42n6d
is there anyway to turn a wallet into a view only without having to resync it all
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zone117x
@fluffypony yeah I suppose a machine compromise makes the most sense. I'm still trying to figure out how to verify that that, and how the machine could have been compromised. nothing was installed on it other than monerod and the wallet-cli
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fluffypony
hmmmm - wallet might have been compromised for a long time, and they only cleaned it out when they saw the transfer
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zone117x
possible, but xmr was hardly on the radar for most of the time it would have really been susceptible
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moneromooo
I'm just thinking: If the original wallet cache is still around, check_tx_key will show whether the tx was made from the wallet or not.
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charolastra
not to make you even more paranoid, but would physical access have been a possibility?
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zone117x
not in the last couple years
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zone117x
@moneromooo the wallet bin file last modified timestamp is a bit older than the tx
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mechanic41turk[m
how may I resolve the following daemon warning notification: "WARNING: no two valid DNS TXT records were received"
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zone117x
Checked the shasums of all the xmr versions I've had in the machine since early 2020 and everything okay. Curious if there is any reasonable software to detect a compromise on the Windows machine
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moneromooo
mechanic41turk[m: fix your DNSSEC setup. If you're using your ISP's DNS settings, it's likely just that.
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charolastra
zone117x: apart from some anti-virus usb bootstick thing i don't know. maby compare all file checksums to a clean install. and operate on a read only image of that harddisk, not while running an OS from there
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charolastra
but in general you can't say if a system is compromised
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zone117x
charolastra yeah that sounds about right
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zone117x
.bal
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Wallet
zone117x: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command.
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Wallet
zone117x: 0 XMR
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zone117x
is the tip bot from several years ago still around?
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Mochi101
zone117x, try #tiperro
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Mochi101
or #tippero
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Mochi101
If you had a balance you can request it there
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zone117x
@Mochi101 ty
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jonah_xd[m]
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jonah_xd[m]
Get your onion site a certificate
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fluffypony
nice
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Inge-
1200xmr and no hw wallet :(
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xrv0[m]
Is there any way for someone to proof he signed a message before a certain timestamp?
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xrv0[m]
Not really possible, is it?
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xrv0[m]
Other than commiting it to a blockchain
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selsta
xrv0[m]: include the hash of a block in a message
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selsta
might work?
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xrv0[m]
that could work but I need to proof it was signed before a certain time, not after
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jonah_xd[m]
Time and computers don't work well
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apotheon
Time is just a consensus protocol.
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jonah_xd[m]
I doubt
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jonah_xd[m]
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