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Doomer
it's sad seeing the west slowly give up their freedoms. as they were the only "rolemodel" the other freedom seeking individuals living under true authoritarianism seek for.
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throwd
Ain't nobody taking my freedom!
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Doomer
Anyways apotheon i'd like to ask how's our special operations units's (skills/discipline/etc) from your american perspective . i am not trusting our local sources.
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apotheon
Can you give me some point of reference or standard for describing it?
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apotheon
I'm not sure how to answer your question.
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apotheon
Oh, sorry, I misread.
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apotheon
Um . . . keep in mind this was from the mid-1990s:
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apotheon
Things seemed extremely low-end from US spec ops perspectives, honestly. The camouflage patterns on the uniforms seemed cut-rate, the protective gear was out of date, tactical logistics were pretty bad, safety and effectiveness of airborne operations were horrific by US standards . . .
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Doomer
as expected . i doubt it changed much.
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apotheon
I don't mean to insult anyone, but there were serious deficiencies that I saw. Things I learned very early in basic training for the US army, like "in a firefight, don't stand when you can kneel, don't kneel when you can lie down" seemed completely absent from tactical training for Tunisian spec ops teams.
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louipc
throwd: which ones
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apotheon
US military static line airborne operations involve equipment carefully designed to keep the static line from catching or tangling, with redundant checks of equipment at various stages of the entire operation to ensure there would be no mishaps. There was a dragged jumper in a training operation once, within the *entire* US military, at one point in several years; the rate of dragged jumpers in
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apotheon
Tunisian airborne operations seemed to be something like 2%, so any sizable airborne operation was likely to have someone die from a static line problem.
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Doomer
You see, in the middle east and the arab world in general our armies have always been terrible logistically and in hardware . and we all knew it. but constant propaganda and traitor claims into anyone who critisizes the military complex caused many to actually believe that their armies actually stand a chance only to face the harsh reality every
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Doomer
time a true insurgency or major war happen
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Doomer
that's why they always end up making up idiotic conspiracy theories about why they lost every time
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apotheon
I see.
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apotheon
Yeah, that doesn't seem fun.
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apotheon
Look at the bright side, though: if you ever have a popuplar, liberty-oriented uprising, the government is unlikely to do a very good job of putting down the rebellion without outside help.
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apotheon
The US military is *extremely* good at killing people who don't deserve it.
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Doomer
actually in tunisia we're lucky to have the least oppressive government in the middle east BY FAR
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Doomer
the worst exemple i can think of is egypt
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louipc
wow really
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apotheon
US-led airstrikes in Afghanistan have killed about 1500 children in the last five years, for instance.
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apotheon
err, 1600
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Doomer
i dont hate the USA in particular.
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apotheon
I just checked the numbers: 1,598.
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louipc
were those children terries
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apotheon
Those were collateral damage.
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Doomer
that's much less than what the typical arab regime kills in an uprising
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apotheon
Oh, I think I misstated. I think probably about 900 were killed; the other 700ish would've been seriously injured.
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louipc
yea but there was this child that grenaded some us soldiers
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apotheon
Those are "casualties", which includes kills, but not all kills.
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Doomer
people in the middle east keep on blaiming the usa (which deserves some blame) but forgetting those who caused much more harm to us, our own regimes
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apotheon
Doomer: Yeah, uprisings get bloody *fast*.
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louipc
he went to guantanamo, but because he had canadian citizenship somehow they sent him to canada, then canada gave him 20M dollars
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apotheon
louipc: When you kill or maim 1600 over a five-year period with airstrikes alone, you start pissing off the locals so much that even the children come at you with any weapon they can get, I suppose.
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louipc
tru
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Doomer
why did the USA stop supporting the syrian rebels. you could've finally helped the arab word for once
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apotheon
US government isn't in it for peace and freedom. The politics of it changed, so US government changed policy.
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louipc
best to pull out for once and for all
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louipc
let ppl figure it out for themselves
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Doomer
pull out== someone else pulls in
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apotheon
You shouldn't expect things to make sense from the perspective of good intentions when governments are involved.
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Doomer
yes i know it's about interests
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louipc
oh like russia
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apotheon
If the US government was really going to help, it would just open up free trade as much as possible with everyone.
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Doomer
louipc like russia/iran/turkey all got involved in syria
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apotheon
The best way to get people on board with peace and freedom is to encourage cultural exchange as much as possible.
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apotheon
free market cultural exchange
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Doomer
apotheon the world is not that simple
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louipc
free working visas
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Doomer
dictatorships dont just give up their powers
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apotheon
When people are engaged in free market cultural exchange, they get lazy about extremist ideas, and they get complacent with all the new shit they get out of it. Culture changes because of economics.
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apotheon
Doomer: No, but dictatorships lose power as people get used to things being different -- and better -- elsewhere.
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Doomer
apotheon yes i agree cultural exchange helps with decreasing extremism. but
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apotheon
. . . and free exchange in rifles and subversive reading material makes a huge difference.
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apotheon
A lot of extremism is pro-government extremism, after all.
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Doomer
" to things being different -- and better -- elsewhere." things have been better since the arab word got independence yet those dictatorships never given power?
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Doomer
better else were*
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apotheon
I'm not sure what you're saying.
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apotheon
Another thing is that there are people with resources who would help freedom fighters against dictatorship if they could, but their own governments don't allow them to do that because of political entanglements with the dictatorships.
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apotheon
Wealthy people in the US are prohibited by the US government to send resources to "terrorist" groups who just want their dictators to stop killing their people.
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apotheon
Hmm. I kinda misphrased that, but I think the meaning comes through.
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Doomer
you see one of the biggest reasons of the failure of the syrian rebels is disunity and most importantly the more extreme factions like isis and al-nusra that literally beat/assisnated much of the moderate rebel forces
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Doomer
uh, this is not a subject for #monero , farewell apotheon .
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anonmon777[m]
<throwd "It's also what they reccomend in"> I know. I am curious about the possible flaws.
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throwd
I think the main thing is what I mentioned. Your wallet is unlocked and you're running a rpc server.
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volantaryism1[m]
Monerotopia in 30 mins right?
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throwd
Can you send me that link again? anonmon777[m] I'm wondering if another possible issue is if they knwo your address, and you're using the same address across multiple sites someone could determine if you were on multiple sites (if there was a data breach or something)
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anonmon777[m]
A link to the Crypto-Lock repo?
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throwd
Yeah I just forgot the name of it I can look it up if that's what it's called
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anonmon777[m]
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throwd
Another thing this repo hasn't been updated in years
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throwd
Not sure if you're looking to using it for your own site
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anonmon777[m]
<throwd "Another thing this repo hasn't b"> Doesn't matter, because the cryptography of Monero is the critical part. The repo only shows the idea.
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anonmon777[m]
I have to implement it into my project for myself.
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anonmon777[m]
I can grantee the user will use the Crypto-Lock only for my site.
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throwd
I think from the server's prespective there's no issue
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anonmon777[m]
I also want to implement Monero functionality to the side. Because of this it would be super nice if I can use the same wallet.
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anonmon777[m]
<anonmon777[m] "I also want to implement Monero "> I thinking about UX. This way the user only needs to know his/her seed and is fine.
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throwd
You'll be requesting your users to download a browser extension?
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anonmon777[m]
Nope. Only copy pasting the string.
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throwd
Ah okay
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throwd
Sounds neat hope it all works out for you
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utxobr[m]
should I expect anything bad from exposing under a single address (say, `mynode.com:18089`) multiple nodes?
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utxobr[m]
(both rpc and p2p ports)
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gokritz
ello ello
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smohgi
#monero-markets
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binaryFate
.
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kijari[m]
I know it was linked a couple of days ago but I can't seem to find it. What was the link for the website that gives you a random XMR pool to mine on?
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apotheon
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apotheon
I don't know if that's what you remember from a couple days ago, but that's what I have.
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apotheon
I think the current implementation of that was partially my fault, in that I suggested the idea of a C implementation via CGI.
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apotheon
(as an alternative to using JavaScript or <shudder> PHP)
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kijari[m]
@apotheon Yeah, thanks! It's not very graphical but it does the job. Mainly just searching around to see if there's a mining pool that may be better than 2miners since 2miners forces miners to pay the fees for all transactions.
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kijari[m]
Then again, if I understand correctly, those fees are equal to what it would be for me to send someone Monero which is fractions of a penny and an extremely tiny amount of Monero. If my understanding is correct, I think I may stick with my current pool because that wouldn't be a massive concern.
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kijari[m]
Only concern would be that I can't change my payout limits but that's not a deal breaker either.
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kijari[m]
Checked payouts and the fees are so small that I won't even bother worrying about them. I'm so used to Ethereum where pool fees and whether or not the pool pays the transaction fees can severely change your income.
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nayab
Hey guys.. Tried to register in the Monero forum. Always the same message popping up no matter what network I connect to. "Your IP address is blacklisted as spam"
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bogsuv
.befr
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Wallet
bogsuv: WTDuck you trying to befriend? They'll come when they're ready or try .duckcall
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nayab
Anybody can help me registering forum
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bogsuv
.duckcall
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Wallet
bogsuv: ・゜゜・。。・゜゜(')> 🦆 'QUACK QUACK!!'
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bogsuv
.bang
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Wallet
bogsuv: YOU GOT IT! Time: ≈7.26 sec Ratio: 5 of 6 Bullets: 1 of 2
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bogsuv
.reload
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Wallet
bogsuv: You're reloaded with 2 bullets & 2 treats.
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bogsuv
.bang
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Wallet
bogsuv: WTDuck you shootin at? They'll come when they're ready or try .duckcall
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Mochi101
Which forum nayab ?
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Inge-
.faucet
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Wallet
Inge-: How many characters in thrift
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Inge-
6
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Wallet
Inge-: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000031 XMR to Inge- [715388d7] Wait ≈23 hrs 55 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01673669
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Inge-
.balance
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Wallet
Inge-: • Your balance is: 0.0052409 XMR (≈2.53 USD)
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nayab
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Mochi101
nayab, there's an email link at the bottom of the page. Have you tried sending an email?
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nayab
I am sending right now..
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nayab
done Mochi101
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Mochi101
ok
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nayab
I guess I should wait for the dev reply.
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Mochi101
Did you include your IP address?
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moneromooo
That's been dead for years now.
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Mochi101
He can still register though, maybe he'll be the one to bring it back to life.
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nayab
Sorry I didn't. But now I included in the follow up email and then sent them. Thanks Mochi101
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Mochi101
nayab, and did you include a picture of your Driver's License or other official ID?
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nayab
Is that necessary? Sorry, just asking..
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nayab
No problem including my id. Just wanted to know why. Mochi101
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moneromooo
Don't.
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moneromooo
He's pulling your leg.
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nayab
Thought so
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nayab
moneromooo , How does mining with mining pools work? Could you please share any doc or link? Is it still required my CPU for mining?
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azy
.faucet
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Wallet
azy: How many letters in mitten
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azy
6
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Wallet
azy: @bonuspot tipped 0.00001 XMR to azy [dfcbcb42] Wait ≈23 hrs 54 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01672669
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azy
.balance
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Wallet
azy: • Your balance is: 0.0002462 XMR (≈0.12 USD)
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pc_
hello, i am running monero wallet gui, and im at the part where its asking me to choose between simple mode and advanced mode. if i choose simple mode, will i be able to change to advanced mode at a later time?
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Mochi101
.faucet
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Wallet
Mochi101: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000005 XMR to Mochi101 [eab173d7] Wait ≈23 hrs 58 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01672619
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Mochi101
noice!
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nayab
@Mochi101 and @moneromooo How does mining with mining pools work? Could you please share any doc or link? Is it still required my CPU for mining?
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Mochi101
nayab, there is lots of information about that online
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nayab
@Mochi101 Will check. Thank you
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moneromooo
pc_: I think you can.
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volantaryism1[m]
nayab: mining pools give block templates
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hiddener
Exception in main! Height 2249814 not included in multiple record range, is it corrupted?
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moneromooo
Maybe. Could be a bug too.
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hiddener
I synced on ssd to 99℅ and moved it to external hdd ext2
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hiddener
:)
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hiddener
is it ext2? or does fs matter?
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dEBRUYNE
hiddener_: Did you shut down the Monero software before copying the blockchain file?
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hiddener_
dEBRUYNE: yes, with exit command
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hiddener
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floralshoppe[m]1
wownero future global currency confrmed?
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selsta
floralshoppe[m]1: #wownero
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selsta
hiddener: most likely corrupted db
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hiddener
selsta: yeah, will resync :]
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selsta
now as to how it happened, not clear
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hiddener
it got corrupted with rsync smh, from ssd to hdd
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N4RT[m]
what got corrupted?
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hiddener
/monero/contrib/epee/src/net_ssl.cpp:579:19: error: use of undeclared identifier 'SSL_CTX_get0_privatekey' getting this on openbsd, help?
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hiddener
N4RT[m]: the db
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moneromooo
Use openssl insetad of libressl.
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hiddener
thanks
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N4RT[m]
<floralshoppe[m]1 "1620657783725.png">
suchwow.xyz/post/1481
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kzdghxnnlnqf[m]
hi
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selsta
charuto: can you make this channel invite only again on matrix?
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charuto
ok, will do, just wanted to check if the ban bot was catching the spam again or not
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selsta
#monero-support is a good place to test the bot as far as I can see
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pixelized[m]
i love the many somewhat off-topic conversations in this room
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pixelized[m]
there's a bunch of other irc and matrix rooms out there for other cryptocurrencies and they're a lot more boring
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pixelized[m]
just 'how do i do this' and 'what is the best so and so'
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pixelized[m]
no philosophic-ish conversations like here
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pixelized[m]
or proper discussions
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pixelized[m]
but then again, i'm not in many
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pixelized[m]
they're not cool here because there seem to be few elsewhere, they're just nice on their own
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charolastra
how freenode used to be :(
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raecarruth
most freenode chans have a lot of off topic talk
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raecarruth
try #dogecoin for example
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raecarruth
it just depends on how pedantic the mods are
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raecarruth
if you want the conversation to flow then you let it slide so long as it isn't offensive
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charolastra
try visiting #debian.de without entering your full real name in the irc details :p
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Hunter[m]
Wownero lads rise
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Metamorphosis
.bal
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Wallet
Metamorphosis: 0.00002154 XMR (≈$0.01)
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aoaqdzdalmhk
twitter.com/hyc_symas/status/1203709575226183683
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aoaqdzdalmhk
Last time I got an award like that was in a primary school football team. It had three stars too and said that I'm special :')
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aoaqdzdalmhk
I just binned it though instead of showing it off to naive groupies. What kind of preson takes a group achievement award and presents it as a proof of their individual prowess anyway?
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glix
lmao wut?
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apotheon
What's a preson?
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PiRATA
preson?
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moneromooo
Depends on the context I guess. Person or prison ?
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moneromooo
Or an obscure particle ^_^
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Metamorphosis
.bal
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Wallet
Metamorphosis: 0.00002154 XMR (≈$0.01)
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ksjrktsb
There are multiple psychological hooks to keep Monero community members in place. Here is one:
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ksjrktsb
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ksjrktsb
Notice that Scientologists don't stand on street corners saying "Would you like to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Xenu?"
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ksjrktsb
Put yourself instead in the shoes of someone who spent $10,000 and 2-3 years of their life on their courses
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ksjrktsb
And you get a bunch of bad sci-fi - you have two choices:
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ieatglueinthegul
All the glowies targeting this room is bullish for monero
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parazyd
.beg
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Wallet
parazyd: How long is the word crank
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parazyd
5
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Wallet
parazyd: @bonuspot tipped 0.000001 XMR to parazyd [b978dda4] Wait ≈23 hrs 55 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01669929
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bogsuv
.bang
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Wallet
bogsuv: WTDuck you shootin at? They'll come when they're ready or try .duckcall
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bogsuv
.duckcall
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Wallet
bogsuv: Patience.. You tried too soon! Try again in about ≈20 min.
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chad[m]
.duckcall
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Wallet
chad[m]: Access denied for duckcall. Are you logged in?
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chad[m]
Damn, busted
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smgbgvqgf
'Oddly, no one who was directly involved with the SIR-C missions and currently still working the Lab, remembers the name Howard Chu, except for one who vaguely recalls Eugene Chu as having a brother names Howard'
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smgbgvqgf
Ed Caro, NASA Chief Engineer. cryptogazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/1-768x1445.png
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Metamorphosis
.val trtl xmr
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Wallet
Metamorphosis: 0.00000123 • tradeogre TRTL/BTC: 0.00000001 24HΔ: 0% 7DΔ: 0% [< 1m] • tradeogre XMR/BTC: 0.00812123 24HΔ: 0% 7DΔ: 0% [< 1m]
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moneromooo
.feed ducks
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djyxyjletxm
Howard, you know why all the 'Titanic intelligence Saviour of NASA' posts stopped last year? They know you are an embarrassment. Your arse didn't learn anything new in 25 years, and that includes C++. They just can't say it to your face.
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synaps3
is monero censored in china ?
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bobbieweirder[m]
synaps3: apparently not
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bobbieweirder[m]
similar approach as in the US, “they know they can’t stop it so they’re trying to live with it” kind of deal. it’s being traded on main exchanges
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synaps3
can they ban it, wdym ?
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synaps3
gues it would be reallly difficult to do so
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N4RT[m]
is masari a monero fork?
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moneromooo
I think so.
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moneromooo
Pretty sure, in fact.
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questi
how come there is no general biz chat anywhere :P
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questi
supressed
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questi
or ##banking
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srkaslmk
Why does the Saviour of NASA take a group achievement award and present it as a proof of individual glory? twitter.com/hyc_symas/status/1203709575226183683
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louipc
to piss you off
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rottenwheel
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louipc
what