> You are thinking in cult doctrine.

bruh, just because I have a personal relationship with my lord and savior, monero, it's no reason to be using the c word.

calculus

<TrooperZ> cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/6204…reenshot_20210319-204816_Chrome.jpg

<TrooperZ> I wanna buy this but i lost all my monero in a boating accident

What kind of person steals from own community? shorturl.at/jmDM4 Your own leaders are laughing at how stupid you are falling for thier 'Magical Crypto Friendship'.

<slbawfalm "What kind of person steals from "> Doesn't bother me one single bit, dick move? Well yes, but actually no

just a spam bot

more like persistent pest

just a meme

Can the monero wallet-cli talk to a monero node over i2p?

angrymonkeyboi[m: github.com/monero-project/monero/bl…cs/ANONYMITY_NETWORKS.md#wallet-rpc

Please would you help me

I am running Tails GUI and the daemon will not connect

Why does the Saviour of NASA take a group achievement award and present it as a proof of individual glory? twitter.com/hyc_symas/status/1203709575226183683

Hi Monero! I am a newcomer who have decided to make XMR the first crypto I will mine myself ever. I have access to about 10 desktop computers in my home so I will pay for electricity, but the plan is to use them 24/7 to mine. Can anyone point me in the right direction how to make this create some kind of income?

Right now I have set up xmrig using their configuration creator

xmrig --donate-level 5 -o pool.xmr.pt:9000 -u <address> -k --tls --coin monero -p <name>

LVanon, how come you set the donate level so high?

Just set it to 1

It was pre-set. I don't mind donating a high amount if it means I get better results/reputation (since my mining rig will run 24/7/365). Do you suggest I lower it?

Ok, I will then CTRL + C, then rerun command but change to 1 ?

yeah, lower it to 1

it's fine

Can I upload a picture and show you how it looks right now?

sure

LVanon, you can join #monero-pools too

It's more for this kind of talk.

That way we don't spam all the wonderful people here with mining talk.

Ok, then I will go over there and post picture there

Cool thanks I will do that and spread my virus of knowing nothing about XMR muhahaha

heya your here smartsaint[m]

are you trying to run monerod to sync your own blockchain, or are you just trying to use a remote node

smartsaint[m], ping pingaring ping pingaring ping ping palooooo

helllo

so what are you trying to do

<gingeropolous "are you trying to run monerod to"> I am just using a remote node to do basic transactions

To get my feet wet

ah. well, when using a remote node, you sometimes need to just wait

How do I help you help me?

i've found that with the GUI, if I hit connect, it'll look like its doing nothing

OK ty

i get frustrated, start browsing the interwebs, and come back to it and its ocnnected

you might also have to just exit the monero GUI, and restart it. I've found that helps sometimes.

it does say "wallet is synchronized" and "Daemon is Synchronized"

oh, thne you are connected

I did something that may have broken it

nope, if the gui says that on the bottom left you should be good to go

I read that I must always update. So, I updated but I deleted my old file

I tried sending a small amount to manjaro on android and it said "failed" with the same error

what old file?

did you restore the wallet from seed?

no

I just opened it

it synched

and I thought all was well

Should I exit wallet and restore from seed?

Yes, I am clueless

"on android and it said "failed" with the same error" -- what error?

"daemon returned wrong response for gettransaction, wrong txs count = 0, expected 1"

hrm. dunno that one

thanks for being honest

does it keep happening when you try reconnecting?

i mean, yeah, short answer is to restore from seed. give the wallet a new name etc and restore from seed, that'll rule out the possibility that you deleted something critical

when I ./monerod I get the warning: no two valid DNS TXT records were received

well if your using a remote node you don't need to run ./monerod

but if you want to run your own daemon, you can do that from the GUI

and that DNA warning is not critical

DNS

I had no idea

I am going to uninstall everything and restore from seed

this seems like the best course of action yeah?

i mean, you could run your own node to rule out that possibility

well, restoring from seed could take hours as well because you'll have to re-sync your wallet

so monerod is not a factor when running Monero GUI with remote node?

i would try connecting to different remote nodes, like node.xmr.to

correct. at least in advanced mode.

ok. do you know the port on that?

i think its 18081

Thank you

I am currently using node.dreamworld.com:18089

Thought it was about as solid a node as you could get

but, changing now

Thanks for the input. Much appreciated.

I have no idea how to run my own node. Can u give me an ELI5 what that means? Do I need to download the 100Gig blockchain or whatever it is called?

Perhaps a site? Save you the pain.

did it work?

dreamworld.com smartsaint[m] ?

smartsaint[m], yes you need to download the blockchain. it can be pruned to 30 gigs

I need to give my dog water. Will change in 30 seconds

ok changing

waiting to sync

same problem

balls

yeah restore from seed into a new wallet file

I am going nuclear. Complete uninstall and restore from seed

yeah, cheers

I'm gonna use windows this time

safer for the plebs

haha

i wouldn;t, but to each their own

okay

You think it runs better and is easier for someone who created their first wallet 2 days ago?

what runs better?

less problems

i mean, the least problematic way to go, in my opinion, is using ubuntu and the CLI tools

you'll have to get used to linux, but if you're serious about getting into monero, there's no comparison.

ty. that is what I will do then

I started on Debian by chance

if your efforts are just a one and done kinda thing, then yeah, try to get the gui running on something

yeah debian will do fine

cool

are you allowed to just sit and idle on these channels?

once you get the OS up and up to date , you can download and run monero in the terminal

smartsaint[m], yep!

someone said something about my poor review for realising i was posting in a mining channel

damn

there should be some tutorials for the CLI on getmonero.org, but honestly just run ./monerod in a terminal and wait for it to sync

also running ./monerod --help will get you all the command line options, and once the program is running, you can type help and you can see commands that the program can accept while its running

thanks

yeah i saw that

word

i did not know which ones to try

anyway must focus on getting this working tonight ty again

right on. good luck.

cheers

Hello

xmr.poker is a new place for playing poker anonymously with moneros. It is possible to play with the web browser or with the open source app. Rake is only 1%. It is also possible to rent private servers without rake and to get a private url to play (all poker clubs can now have their private platform to play with crypto).

Poke her? I hardly know her!

If you have any question about xmr.poker, feel free to ask ;-)

14:27 < childofthecorn[m> Poke her? I hardly know her!

I haven't heard that joke in something like 25 years.

which joke ?

"poker" "poke her"

I just quoted the joke.

"Poke her? I hardly know her!"

as stated by childofthecorn[m

I was disconnected and I didn't get the messages

<apotheon "I haven't heard that joke in som"> Im bringing it back, one Dad joke at a time ;)

I also heard that joke made with "sticker".

the game is not a joke I can send xmr to admin to try it

and if you have anything to say to improve it I will be happy to discuss about it with you

I'm not interested in online poker.

cool nicopok

I'm pruning the monero db atm. It's been running for almost three hours, it's still running. The computer is otherwise idling and has an SSD and 16GB mem. How long does pruning a 100GB db normally take?

Huge gobs of time. It's probably faster to resync from scratch.

what use is monero poker

you still have to cash out eventually

unless you just buy things with Monero

Last time I resynced I ended up with 100GB. Trying to get rid of 70 of them

boa have you heard the band boa?

Nope :)

they are good

European?

Or African ?

english i think

(boa means good, btw :) )

nicopok, looks good

ohhh

Bôa (stylized bôa) is an English alternative/indie band formed in London in 1993

it can be useful for poker clubs that want to have their own private place to play without using dummy tokens

Cool. Will check out the band when the pruning is done. Browsers eat too much memory and the computer is actually using swap atm.

is swap like ram?

more like disk really

i set up swap when i configured arch, dont know what it does tho :o

Swap is space on the disk that is used as a fallback when the RAM is full

what he said :)

Honestly, I'd resync.

ah

With --prune-blockchain.

So it's sort of part of the memory. When your RAM memory becomes full, the system starts storing some memory in swap

But swap is on the hard drive, so it's slower than RAM.

It keeps your computer from crashing by running out of memory, though!

very interesting

moneromooo, I get your point, but it's the first time I try this and I want to see what happens. It's a learning experience to me.

what if you have an SSD, is it as fast as RAM?

Ah, ok. Let us know how much time it took when it's done hten, I'm curious :)

And I have a feeling it's gonna use 100 GB RAM :D

Will do, unless everything crashes.

SSDs are faster than HDDs but still not as fast as RAM

Not quite. But it's faster than an HDD. At least, I don't think it's as fast as RAM. Unless there are old RAM chips which are slow?

Btw I'm trying to help spinus with a Monero issue. They say the Monero GUI is showing no balance even though they're certain they've got the right seed passphrase, they've got the latest version of Monero GUI, they can confirm access to addresses they've sent to and transactions they've made

Check refresh-from-block-height, make sure it's <= the height at which the first tx is supposed to be.

ferox_thinkpad: my RAM does 30gb/s while the onboard SSD just does 5gb/s

5gb/s is insane though. That's a lot of data

it's all relative. in 10 years we'll laught about that

Adn 20 years ago, noone would've believed you

*and

true

4K video at 60Hz still needs more, about twice as much. May be wrong here, so many digits...

I won't laugh about that because in 10 years I still won't be able to afford a new 10TB quantum laptop

It'll be OK though. The quantum laptop will be both there and not there. You'll just have the not there part. Close enough.

Lol

@ferox_thinkpad, boa seems to be a K-pop lady too?

The problem with a quantum laptop is that you can't know where you left your laptop and how fast it is at the same time.

:)

Plus the charging cord always gets entangled

Elementoshi[m]: Weirdly, when it's entangled, you don't have to plug in the laptop. It gets the same power as the cord, no matter how far away.

spooky power at a distance

But if you check the battery level, the charging cord untangles itself

TIL the story of Euridice is an allegory for quantum entanglement.

If anyone's interested, pruning is slow... My SSD reads about 1GB/s of data, and has been doing that for a very long time now. /me will have a look at the source code eventually, because this is a little bit silly-slow

Weid thing is how much time is spent in the Linux kernel and doing io wait

boa: please feel free. First thing to check if whether committing and restarting a new txn every N blocks speeds it up.

blockchain_prune.cpp

now building monero

wheee

(because if you have a huge txn and still modify it, it'll swap your computer to the ground)

My initial suspect was the kernel cache, since more than 30% is spent in system, and about 6% in IO wait. Since the db is one huge file and since the pruning process seems to read a lot right now (last msg was 'creating pruned tx_prunable'), I suspect that it's cache issues. Not much write going on it seems, but wtf do I know?

hmph

errored out

ENOMONERO

/path/to/monero/contrib/epee/src/net_ssl.cpp:579:19: error: use of undeclared identifier 'SSL_CTX_get0_privatekey'

sounds like you're using an old version of OpenSSL

I'm on OpenBSD, so . . . LibreSSL?

hmm

will check into this

@moneromooo, will the pruning process delete the old version of the database automatically?

I'm up to date with LibreSSL for 6.8-stable.

I guess I might need to install OpenSSL as well.

did that, still fails the same way

hyc: What version of OpenSSL do I need?

Apparently, I have to contribute to the monero repository with a merged commit to report a build error on OpenBSD 6.8-stable.

I don't know how to contribute to it at this point, when I can't even build it.

ndorf: In answer to your earlier question . . . it won't build on OpenBSD here.

Is Monero the only ryptocurrency that has a decent CLI?

boa: with monero-blockchain-prune, it's kept alongside the pruned db, delete when you've checked the pruned db works. Wiht moenrod, it's the same file.

Elementoshi[m]: I wish I could find out.

The cat is still both alive and dead for me.

apotheon: does it tell you why at least ?

/path/to/monero/contrib/epee/src/net_ssl.cpp:579:19: error: use of undeclared identifier 'SSL_CTX_get0_privatekey'

that's what it tells me

How far out are BTC atomic swaps from being implemented?

My fault for being vague. Does github tell you why you can't file ?

"An owner of this repository has limited the ability to open an issue to users that have contributed to this repository in the past."

fluffypony: is it possible to add an extra message to this, so people know what's going on ?

Maybe the spammer has been spamming project issues.

or, rather, the griefer, or whatever

Definitely has.

sucky

Definitely is.

The level of annoyance in IRC is actually pretty low, but doing that to project issues is downright nasty.

Should have a good career path in large corps :D

lovely

Well, shit. I give up. I'm not finding any good solutions.

I guess Monero's just broken on OpenBSD for now.

That sucks

I might try again after OpenBSD 6.9-release happens.

Can you paste the code from line 575 to 580 please ? Doesn't seem to match mine.

moneromooo: sprunge.us/p7Ts0Q

I assume you mean 575-580 of net_ssl.cpp . . .

nicopok

Do you plan to have HU tables?

Also, do you intend to implement any anti-collusion mechanics? (which is probably impossible in this format, but wanted to check nonetheless)

What kind of collusion?

me playing against a group of 5 sharing hole cards, etc

could you tell us a bit more about your RNG also?

Thanks. Guess it's very new, I don't have that yet.

I see.

I still haven't seen any evidence of someone noticing my pull request for meta.

bummer

Did you know that all witdraw-buyer-seller-depoist chains are trackable in Monero? No? You should have read Breaking Monero. How many people are you endangering with your 'privacy' coin?

moneromooo: git blame reports line 579 changes three years ago and sixteen months ago

actually

I guess it's not for that line specifically. It seems to be for a whole block of stuff.

. . . but there's also a change from a month ago, apparently.

GitHub's interface for this is a bit difficult to figure out.

jess, how is this spammer creating so many register accounts on freenode?

registering can be automated basically

just takes an email address

Yes of course... I'm not really asking how.

well, that's what you asked

Are all the password hashes the same for all of these new accounts?

Okay, git command line blame:

9867a913dc (Lee Clagett 2021-02-09 17:06:12 -0500 579) if (!(ssl_key = SSL_CTX_get0_privatekey(ctx)) || !(ssl_cert = SSL_CTX_get0_certificate(ctx)))

Can't it be ade a little more diffifult for him?

i don't gave access to password hashes and those are salted anyway

have*

im open to ideas, I've got none

System supplied password sent as an image.

Well, it's always the same rough set of lines. Fuzzy string grep ?

staging room for new registrations :p

or 5m silence or something

Of course, he'l probably excrete new stuff.

anyone can do fuzzy string matching, i dont need to be involved

jess, system supplied password sent as an obfuscated image like in captchas.

Fair.

jess: pro answer :D

i fight spam worse than this all day long

You're a real badass jess. Brave, and fierce.

;)

My irssi takes care of those so far :D

not saying it's not an issue, just that i have very little time

get some minions to do your bidings

im trying to get more staff hired :)

Don't you get paid massive amounts of money from Freenode to deal with it though jess? Like $7000 per month?

I'm a volunteer

sorry

moneromooo: no there isn't

I wonder

freenode doesn't have money

neither do I

jess: oh :( huge ops to fight spammers

is the message shown when you get to the issues screen

or only when you try post

because we could use an issues template to inform

It's, um, "interesting" that I have a manpage here for SSL_CTX_get0_certificate but not SSL_CTX_get0_privatekey.

Maybe I posted this message in the wrong channel twice, I try one last time here: Hi guys! I want to know how I can calculate the profits if I buy a mining rig. Please let me know everything I need to account for. Electricity price? I pay 0.23 SEK / kWh ($1 = ~8 SEK), (tl;dr: very very low electricity cost). I need to know how much ETHEREUM I can end up with when using a specific rig. The idea is to invest in a great rig, me and my partner are interested

in investing in a proper mining rig, but we're both new to this and we know we can get started soon with your help. We will then learn more about the technology. (Me myself have traded BTC since the beginning by selling RS gold, I just never cared to learn about how it works, except for the private key, cold/hot storage etc). Can anyone please reply and answer what machine you recommend, how much ETH it will bring in every month if ran 24/7/365. We are

prepared to invest in this, but I want to start by imagine if we invested $2000. Kind regards

fluffypony: The message shows when clicking the "new issue" button or when viewing an existing issue, but not when viewing the list of issues.

fluffypony: Sorry, I didn't immediately realize you might be asking me about when the message shows.

LVanon, this isnt an ethereum channel

as2333: Sorry I meant XMR of course... :facepalm:

Genuinely. I've been here previously today talking about XMR and got great help from you

s/ETHEREUM/MONERO

Not you personally but others here. But if we buy a real good mining rig. How much XMR can we expect? Can we do something to increase profits etc? Like get more involved, run nodes?

LVanon: You need an Ethereum channel for your questions, not a Monero channel.

Oh, wait, "I meant XMR".

hmm

weird

LVanon, right now you can earn about ~1.1 XMR +block fees per block mined.

Mochi101: What kind of machine would we need to mine very efficiently?

It would need to have a very powerful processor, very fast memory and use very little electricity to mine very efficiently.

LVanon, why didn't you stay in #monero-pools to ask these questions?

apotheon : yeah I targeted openssl 1.1 (our listed dependency), but didn't realize that openssl was api incompatible

I have 1.1.1, apparently.

(having installed the OpenSSL package)

the entire patch can be reverted if necessary, but not immediately sure how the trust-on-first-use attempt for wallet->daemon will function meaningfully (optionally enabled somehow?)

i gotta say i love how this room is very intolerant of crypto tinas 😂

openssl is libressl iirc, a fork, no?

*openbsd

LibreSSL is in base for OpenBSD, OpenSSL is in packages.

oh ok, so theres both and neither has that function?

. . . though, now that i think about it, I wonder if the OpenSSL package's API is "hidden" by default.

(compiling as non-root)

yeah you'd have to do `VERBOSE=1 make` to see what paths were selected for inclusion

Ideally, I'd want to use LibreSSL, anyway, but I wonder what I'd have to do to get the Monero build to find OpenSSL.

yes, it would be nice if it was compatible with both

check help page for cmake's FindOpenssl, there should be an environment path to search first

you can either set a root directory for searching, or (I think)r force paths manually

I'm having trouble finding relevant information with VERBOSE=1.

that should list the entire command given to gcc

or is clang used now? probably clang. either way it will show `-I ...` for special include paths, otherwise the default `/usr/include` is picked up

openbsd might use a different default directory, but I think thats their structure too

Everything for -I seems to be things within the Monero tree.

LibreSSL is a pain, since it advertises OpenSSL's version macros

There's also this: -isystem /usr/local/include

but is not 100% compatible with any OpenSSL version

they really screwed the pooch when they forked the code

yeah, then the compiler is searching that directory too

because `-isystem` does the same thing

apotheon: ah yeah then an issue template won't help

sigh

it should mean that no special directory is being searched, and therefore the OpenSSL headers are _probably_ not being used

LibreSSL hijacks the directory scheme too, which is why this is annoying

GitHub's code search finds no mention of "SSL_CTX_get0_privatekey" anywhere in the whole LibreSSL tree, by the way.

I guess that was just removed for some reason.

it is a new API, added in OpenSSL 1.1

ah

I didn't realize it didn't exist until 1.1 . . .

vtnerd: Thanks for the help figuring this out.

hmm. maybe. looks like it was actually added back in 2013

so maybe this is their old API. they keep renaming functions...

well, this is definitely newer than their 0.9 API

hyc: I thought I saw it existing something like six years ago, but . . . I didn't sleep well enough last night, so I'm second-guessing everything I think at this point.

their 1.0.0 release was in 2010, so yeah, it's still relatively "new"

hi guys, i want to work on this one: monero-project/monero #5979

Sure, thanks. Looks a fairly self contained one.

I need a nap. Ta.

howdy

hi reptar

weird picturing female cowboy reptar dinosaur saying "howdy"

hmmm

yeap

lol

For when is the next network upgrade scheduled?

There is none scheduled yet.

sgp_, ? ^ i think there's an idea that it'll happen within the next year

i can't remember the details from the last meeting where this was discussed

Okay and is there any schedule for the next wallet release?

No.

I want to put out a 0.17.2.0 soon

but no date yet

Thank you, are we waiting for paticular features to be implimented? I know there are some work in progress CCS (xiphon, vtnerd, mj, moneromooo)

* Thank you, are we waiting for paticular features to be implemented? I know there are some work in progress CCS (xiphon, vtnerd, mj, moneromooo)

I don't think anyone is working on this

oh wait

ignore my message

I'm not waiting for anything in particular, though next fork release will have Bulletproofs+, at least.

exciting, thank's guys