ndorf: You're awfully helpful, by the way. Thanks.

. . . but it broke again. Fuck.

Oh, wait. This is a damned out of memory error again.

I think I did stuff in the wrong terminal emulator.

I'll kick myself later.

kick yourself immediately

no time

failed to store wallet meh?

what is it?

using seed phase and gui wallet

a day full of adventures :)

dunno whats u[

Probably no space on device, no write permissions on that directory, exiting file from another user, that kind of thing.

At a push, out of memory maybe.

If a really large wallet.

well it is a gui wallet

hmm

fck

file not found tmp monero core

ok fixed yet a bit funny :D

Hello everyone, mmm okay. On Thursday I was speaking with someone and we got into the conversation of the messages that were being posted with my username here in element and the IRC channels. I opened my element app, made a search for the messages searching my username (lh1008), found the last one posted in March 11th and when I tried to forward the message I posted it in the monero community IRC channel. Rehrar just

approached me asking if I was posting those messages before and well, I'm not involved on those messages. Rehrar also told me that I had to give an explanation to the community, so, here I am. If anyone has any questions let me know. If I answer late please bare with me, I have been pretty busy and I can't be very active as usual. You can reply to this message so I can respond to any questions.

Thank you for your reading.

lmao

these spam bots are so brutal

lh1008[m]: I have a question - do you feel you were "savagely attacked" by the Monero community at some point?

kek

ndorf: By the way, it compiled. I'm reading up on stuff now to make sure I don't screw up what I'm doing before I try running it.

. . . but first, sleep.

g'night

later

apotheon: w00t.

glad to hear it

I can tell you why you can't stop the 'spam'. You are thinking in cult doctrine. If it was real spam, and I was selling Viagra for example - you could easily ban keywords and urls. Instead, stop being a sheep, think like a cult leader. Recoginse that this 'spam' is just some bullshit that you tell to the sheep.

When you do that, solution will present itself. Observe. 'spam' -> 'FUK talks bad things about Monero on our IRC' (Don't say that out loud obviously, that will get you excommunicated) Solution? Get off-the-shelf sentiment analyser, detect anyone who 'talks bad things about Monero' and ban them.

lets fucking goooooo

Line go uuup

Stablecoin pumping

does it require high speed internet to run monerod locally for monero-wallet-cli?

No.

monerod warns about rotating drives. do i necessarily have to use ssd to run monerod?

They're a lot better. Once you've synced the chain though, a HDD should keep pace just fine.

only if you don't like pain (= waiting ages for it to complete)

The initial sync is very painful on HDD though.

I've seen a couple of times that the question of how well Monero would withstand a 51% attack - possibly especially in light of the examples of big hashrate spikes from someone using cloud servers ...

<TrooperZ> is it possible to make a fork of monero that is instant and feeless like nano, but keeps the privacy

Define "instnt".

<TrooperZ> well, 1 second or less for the funds to arrive and be ready to spend

<TrooperZ> this is the coin im talking about

<TrooperZ> v

<TrooperZ> nano.org

didn't nano transactions take multiple hours recentlyv

?

due to a spam attack

<TrooperZ> yeah cuz of spam attack

because there are no fees it is trivial to spam

It's possible, but it's fragile.

Wait. Arrive in a second, yes. Given good enough connectivity. Ready to be spent in a second, no.

<TrooperZ> monero is a cryptonote coin, correct?

But within a couple minutes.

Yes.

quite different from original cryptonote by now though

<TrooperZ> are fees set in the code or how are they calculated

isn't that a dynamic free market thing? that's why BTC and ETH fees go through the roof anytime the blocks are full

In theory, it is. But since there's no contention, the fee is whatever the min is in practice. It's a formula based off the block reward and block weight. Details in the commit message that added them.

<Inge- "lh1008: I have a question - do y"> No. I felt pressure but I think due the circumstances it's a normal feeling.

lh1008[m]: What kind of pressure? (if you don't mind sharing)

Why does the Saviour of NASA take a group achievement award and present it as a proof of individual glory? twitter.com/hyc_symas/status/1203709575226183683

I wonder how much money that guy is spending on his botnet

<leonardus "I wonder how much money that guy"> Should be buying XMR instead

Maybe he's buying XMR and spending it on the botnet rental so it won't be traced.

lh1008[m]: thank you for replying

heyho, I want to start mining monero and im not sure about the budget i should put into the rig. What budget and which cpu would you suggest using? (i'm aiming for something around 3k usd). Thank you in advance :)

Ryzens are good.

People in #monero-pools should have good advice.

Also bad advice.

smly0108[m]: guess the sweet spot right now is at Ryzen 3900X. the 5 lineup is much too expensive

but recouping the imvestment will be tricky

but even a single 3900X will just pull ~0.15 XMR/month so you should do your ROI calculations

<moneromooo "People in #monero-pools should h"> Thanks for that one :-) I'm in :)

also, fast ram is rrcommended

<Inge- "but recouping the imvestment wil"> only at the current price point :)

ah, an optimist :)

yes, sir :-)

(or rather delusional lunatic :p )

16:43 < moneromooo> Also bad advice.

(standard disclaimers apply)

<charolastra "(or rather delusional lunatic :p"> i dont think so... XMR is implementing good stuff and is lagging far behind, compared to other coins. fees are sweet and privacy should always be focused :-) even if its gets banned on some US-Exchanges... who cares, its crypto, its worldwide (:

you're certainly right and our suicide cult believes in it. but meanwhile whe're getting fucked by it crabbing sideways

smly0108[m]: it might still make more sense to just buy :D

but at least the 3900x can be repurpised if you stop mining on it

<charolastra "you're certainly right and our s"> be happy about it, gives us more time to put more fiat into :P

repurposed*

xmr is one of 4 coins i do hodl. all others are just for trading against btc. So i love to see it stagnating, which gives me time to allocate more :) patience pays out :) awesome project and only fud news :-)

get it over with so we can mars already!

<Inge- "but at least the 3900x can be re"> i think that counts for all cpu's... which is why i like the idea of cpu mining much more then gpu and this cmp-electronic-garbage after use

hi, is it possible to run full node via i2p and tor in the same time?

Couldn't you run two nodes -- one accessible via i2pd and the other with Tor -- off the same blockchain instance?

(I'm not an expert. I'm asking because I'm genuinely not sure.)

don't you have a virtual interface set up for your daemon which it listens on? then it shouldn't care where you route it to (although no idea if i2p works like tor)

yes, you can run a single monerod on both i2p and tor at the same time

and yes, you can run two monerods on different networks off the same blockchainDB at the same time if you want to

but there's no real need for that now, given the previous fact

hyc: good to know; thanks

Dude. twitter.com/francispouliot_/status/1376576385666400264?s=19

lol

so simple

tho I thought Liquid was supposed to supersede lightning

very simple: youtu.be/RBOqfLVCDv8?t=10

at least one person was sane, asks "what is the fees" :P

an arm and a leg

lol

liquid is used - and controlled - by some exchange mafia.

did coinbase already do their public offering? is the LTC washtrading scam going to affect them?

jeebus, Twitter hijacks the space bar sometimes

WTF

zero sympathy for anyone using twitter :P

har

What about people using Twitter to try to lure people away from it?

come on, the Suez Canal memes all this week were worth it

you may be interested in github.com/zedeus/nitter

there are a few public nitter instances like nitter.dark.fail or you can just host your own

I don't know about the 'ipo', but the funny piece of news about shitbase is that they paid a 'fine' to their govt accomplices (6 millions) so that they can keep commiting their crimes unmolested.

wow a paltry $6M for all the crap they pulled

hehe

a bargain!

coinbase is doing a direct listing i think, not an IPO

hyc, thank you

as a potential investor who only cares about ngu, would the LTC scandal be more, or less attractive to you?

there's an LTC scandal?

something other than it's scandalous that LTC is still around?

LTC wash trading on coinbase

less, because they paid that fine to a regulator that had no oversight. the CFTC does not regulate spot commodity markets.

it shows that they are regulated even by regulators that have no oversight

jesus what a circus

the "concurring" opinion is worth reading

the Order and the Concurring Statement are in the links on the right under Related Links: cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/8369-21

wait, if CFTC has no jurisdiction then why did this even get investigated?

exactly!

notice in the Order, they repeatedly call spot crypto pairs "contracts"

as if they are derivatives, which the CFTC does oversee

hmm. that concurring stmt amounts to "nobody regulates these exchanges, caveat emptor"

makes it all the more damning that exchanges don't list monero - clearly there are no govt regulators pressuring them

It just seems like Monero does it all. I feel that it is only inevitable it is #1 market cap in the future, even if they start banning all crypto in the US.

entry1[m], what do you mean "does it all" ?

<Mochi101 "entry1, what do you mean "does i"> Fungibility, low transaction cost, stealth addresses, more diversity across mining with RandomX, incentives for future miners, and multiple functional open source wallet apps. I don't see how Bitcoin truly can compete, or any other crypto for that matter.

Already delisted on many exchanges and that hasn't deterred demand/pricing significantly

makes yah wonder

Sure, Monero has all that entry1[m]. But it doesn't have NFTs.

<Mochi101 "Sure, Monero has all that entry1"> Yeah we need some asap. That's definitely the move. Have you seen the audio NFTs? They will be worth millions some day /s

XMRKittens

thanks to NFT Science you can trade digital cockroaches now

<Mochi101 "XMRKittens"> At least provide the link for us all so we can buy some, selfish. I'll use some of the Tether I'm HODL'ing for it

Yes! buy tether! Unlimited Tether Works!

pixel roaches?

My impression, given the lower volatility than the "big kids", is that Monero's value is more likely to grow with currency use than speculation use -- which I consider a feature.

!quote

Random quote (#1514): <-- asymptotically (~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically) has quit (Quit: Executed for war crimes)

great quote

RIP asymptoti. He was a real one

can i have monero bitcoin and eth on ledger at the same time?

!quote

Random quote (#516): <mrcena600> if you change 2 letters and delete 1 letter in word AEON, you will get ETN

entry1[m], as2333: I can't wait for the NFT fad to die

it's so dumb

NFTs are dumb? mobile.twitter.com/Pringles/status/1372242606902673409

<PurpleBerries "NFTs are dumb? mobile.tw"> Dude, fucking stop. The prices are going to skyrocket. I already bought 8 flavors

lol

re: NFT ^

leonardus, yeah me too. But people seem to be getting dumber by the day, so who knows...

lza_menace color me unsurprised

lza_menace: Good thread, really confirms my suspicions.

the best threads usually do :D

confirmed: good threads are those that confirm our suspicion

Yeah, I was thinking recently that unless an NFT is actually storing the data on the blockchain, it's really nothing more than a certificate.

It would be interesting to see NFTs stored on the blockchain, but with the privacy features of Monero

It's a choice between persistence and bloat really.

private titles to physical items especially (not necessarily large media files)

You don't need a blockchain for that

the concept of physical ownership already exists

which is why this is stupid

trustless title database

This can fairly trivially be done, and the referenced image is just flavour. It going poof doesn't invalidate the rest of the data.

(in general I mean, not with monero in particular)

moneromooo: The image is the "value" of the NFT though, isn't it?

Sure you have metadata, but what use is that

I couldn't say. Baffles me too.

Well, if the item is the title, then... this is hte use ?

you guys are just salty you didn't think of selling NFTs of your farts or some red pixel. i'm too....

Having the ability to spend/transfer the item is proof of ownership of an item in the real world.

mooo is baffled as well? I feel better now

Or just plain collection. People like to collect physical stuff too, and these often don't bring anything either.

I looked into NFTs a few weeks ago, and it's really just that. Include an IPFS link. So yes, the craze is baffling.

I need to learn how to do it though so that I can help my wife sell some digital artwork before the craze dies off.

Though something good came of it. I had wanted to look into IPFS for ages and never could be bothered ^_^

don't some site not even have IPFS store?

Is that different than Sia?

Sia is a different concept than IPFS

Sia has incentivized storage mechanisms in the protocol layer, whereas with IPFS Filecoin is built on top of it

thanks SleepingShell

lvl 200 trolling twitter.com/CameronRuggles/status/1376225212195250176?s=19

Hey guys. Wanted to run this by you rather than create a Reddit thread - as I'm probably missing something. Have heard Bitcoiners talk about how Scnorr/Taproot will increase privacy. However I was strugging to understand exactly how. I think some of you follow Bitcoin developments also? So I *think* I get it now... it will work by “hiding” multisig transactions on chain - such that they look the

same as normal Taproot transactions.

So you wouldn’t be able to tell if a transaction was a CoinSwap or interacting with the Lightening network.

Whilst that indeed seems like an improvement… presumably you’re still left with any flaws in CoinSwap / Lightening etc?

"increasing privacy" with Bitcoin isn't all that meaningful. you can increase from zero quite a bit and still end up with a very low number

Won't disagree. Was just keen to try and understand the nuance of their "argument"

john_r365: yes, that's the gist of it. It also makes it cheaper.

If you have some advanced coin swap thing, you only need to pay the tx fees for a normal-sized transaction.

<lza_menace "nitter.1d4.us/jonty/stat"> dang

thanks @yanmaani

<moneromooo "Though something good came of it"> what do you think of the idea/tech?

hmm - maybe the so called NFTs are based on PoI (proof of insanity)

I don't know how the tech itself works. I only used ipfs so far.

a/wb

feh

“I thought, ‘I’m going to pump it and dump it,’ because I was interested and taking the ideas and implementing them in bitcoin. The bitcoin code base was far more interesting to me than monero, and I thought, ‘I’m not going to work on this codebase, it’s terrible,'” he recalls - fluffypony in an interview about Monero