I know I did that kind of thing early on. And of course it's very easy to forget what harebrained scheme you used originally...

maybe .... Its for 3 years old

The words list is in src/mnemonics/english.h (or other language name).

38 is really far from a seed. Should be 25 (or 24 if really old).

hey moneromooo, how's it going?

<Jeremih> Didn't know the word list was available, thanks I may have used a weird copy or just a copy of it

so, i am working on this one: monero-project/monero #5979

and i am down to the last steps of your instructions blurb there,

i added the new field to the handshake, and using a debug command such as: build/Linux/master/debug/bin/monerod --allow-local-ip --add-exclusive-node 192.168.1.4:18080 --p2p-external-network-address 4.3.2.1

i am able to see that the received ping request does containing the new command line value

so my question is: how do i " - use that IP to add to the peer list instead of always the incoming IP" ?

is that a matter of changing how that "context" object is created, because the code refers to context.remote_address a lot ...

Thanks for your help!

is his he word list? github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/src/mnemonics/english.h

seems to be it

<Jeremih> I didn't add it to my word list since it was full of spaces and other text even though I could've gotten rid of it

<Jeremih> Well I won't have a 471k word list but I do have a 470k word list

hi every word is in the word list

still showing that error

electrum style word list failed verification

arent electrum style words 13?

seed keys for electrum

just take the first 13 words or the last 13 words off and try that

maybe you just combined a seed key for your btc and xmr wallets

25+13=38

abcdefg_irssi: "electrum style", not literally electrum seed

its 12 words anyways

Wallet: Wallet

Hi, is there a place to leverage my XMR without KYC?

Define "leverage".

(for these purposes)

I've sold all my assets to buy XMR, still need more Monero.

where can I sell my xmr for $$

Only way to control more XMR seems to be leverage

newlinux^: exchange

I could put some support under the price for a while, but my assets are 99.9% XMR

newlinux^: localmonero

renom[m]: I still don't know what you want.

"When Monero’s time comes it will be very fast and violently vertical."

-katiecharm

renom[m]: Are you talking about trying to loan XMR for interest payments, or what?

renom[m]: Sell products or services, I guess.

i think u can get 1.87% APY on binance lol

but that is KYC

newlinux^ on kraken

renom[m]: Mine it.

use localmonero though if you can, much better

yep

Sell it to me, too.

"or crab" . . . hmm

"go sideways" has ominous connotations

My local brewery "bug nutty" is out of .007

I attribute this to Monero. Well done bros

That's their Ipa

Are they selling brews for Monero?

<apotheon "renom: Are you talking about try"> suppose I want to control 10,000 XMR for a year. But the only asset I have is XMR.

Oh, you're looking for bizarre love triangles in finance instruments for cryptocurrencies.

Yeah, I dunno.

If you only have that 25 words but no password can you get someones wallet with that 25 words????

!!!

sounds not much secured

<apotheon "Oh, you're looking for bizarre l"> It does exist. Localmonero options contracts, for example. Looking for other ways

ndorf: I'm beginning to think you were right.

renom[m]: I didn't say it doesn't exist.

You have a password to get into your email account

!!

Sounds not much secured

email has 2 factor authentication

someone can brute login attempts

It's not really two-factor. It's a duplicate factor.

have fun brute forcing a 25 word seed

newlinux^: you realize the universe would end sooner?

really?

I have seen Cosmos

Yeah, it's called "math".

combination and permutation chapter?

So guys are talking from irc and discord both at the same time and a Bot is making a link?? Awesome. Never seen such thing. You guys are briliant

I believe you can now pw protect yout seed

*your

still looking for a tpyist

<newlinux^ "If you only have that 25 words b"> suppose the words are taken from a list of 2^10 (about 1000) words. then the search space for a 25-word seed has size 2^(10*25) = 2^250. that's super super secure

I am a typist

:)

Give me a job

You didn't capitalize things well, so I'm not hiring you.

Normally I dont do that but when I am doing someones job I'm dead serious

wait a minute what is tpy-ist

something different?

or just typo?

It was an intentional typo, as a joke.

Oh you joke!

It wasn't me.

yes

erm

my bad

going away now

no

Ill pay you 0.1 xmr for monerochan fanfiction

I dont like anime

volantaryism1[m]: Pay me 1 XMR and I'll do it.

I've actually been a professional writer.

big eyes only look good in fantasy photos but looks hideous if a human gets big eyes like that

Im guessing yall use usenet too? because of monero and privacy stuffs

ive been making all my friends pay me in monero for anything

i just made some guy pay me $12 in monero to split a food delivery

lmao

obtaining monero with no KYC

spam incoming

Do you think that you are too intelligent to be in a cult? Then I would encourage you to look into how any other cult works. They aren't populated by stupid people. Aum Shinrikyo was almost exclusively university professors and graduates. For Pete's sake - they had the know-how and means to make WMDs.

As to Monero, I would encourage you to look at Jonestown mass-suicide. You know why Jones killed them all? Because he was afraid he is loosing control over them. People like that will burn everything around them rather than give up control. Being smart doesn't make you immune to being in a cult. This is the most valuable lesson Monero taught me.

this is the most bizarre place to spam nonsensical fud

chances are if someone's in here, then they know enough for the spam to be ineffective

Of all the places to spam...

gives him purpose

Its not fud, monero is a shitcoin made for criminals. Bitcoin is anonymous and fungible

Wow...

cult is always bad

like mafia

If you're that dumb I'm not sure if it matters if you're in a cult or a hospital...

entry1: are those bitcoin bags feeling heavy yet

I responded to a troll... verifying my gullibility

<volantaryism1[m] "entry1: are those bitcoin bags f"> Don't have one dollar in btc boy. Xmr baby, we're mooning this bull run or the next. Makes no difference to me

#monero-markets

<TrooperZ> guys, im making a new exchange: monero to USD, send me the monero and i'll send you the USD one day

Half baked idea: a Monero based futures market on Havenero. Maybe part of the fee for each trade goes straight to the Monero General fund.

What's the best way to learn about Monero? Going thru the docs on their website?

watch dr. daniel kim's videos on youtube!

monero is money and behavioral finance

<JohnMilton "What's the best way to learn abo"> the books here also: getmonero.org/library

ooh and don't forget Mastering Monero. Free book here:

Thanks to both of you. Increasingly interested in Monero and Zcash :)

JohnMilton: breaking monero youtube series

Breaking Monero seems great. Appreciate the nuance

JohnMilton: its a really good series for understanding strengths and potential weaknesses

Point well taken, the humility is cool too

Old news of course (but I'm still learning so apologies), but what was the Monero community's general take on DHS/CipherTrace saying that they "cracked" Monero?

Wow that was awful grammmar

Sarang rekt them

Great vid, going to finish watching later

CipherTrace CEO states publicly they can't trace Monero txns twitter.com/hyc_symas/status/1331006439809224707

my understanding is there is really nothing wrong with ZEC’s tech per se. the things that we don’t like about them are design choices (trusted setup and optional privacy). it’s a sell out to me but i can see it again being “good enough” for people

if people care about privacy enough to use ZEC i would honestly at least be a little proud. but i’m personally just too idealistic to waste time away from monero

KSaunderson: I meant that when you want to add a peer to the peer list because you just got a connection from them, you use the address they claim to the peer list.

However, I'm thinking this might open up a DoS avenue maybe, since someone can get you to connect to an arbitrary IP...

I guess checking the peer id is the same in the pong and the ping should be enough. If different, drop connecion.

(and do not add to peer list)

.balance

sech1: Access denied for balance. Are you logged in?

They stole my 0.0048 XMR :(

.balance

binaryFate: • Your balance is: 0.00174 XMR (≈0.65 USD)

woot

.faucet

​azy: 6, __, 4,​ 3

5

azy: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000022 XMR to azy [7986bb02] Wait ≈1 day 39 sec before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01713761

.balance

azy: • Your balance is: 0.0001915 XMR (≈0.07 USD)

Hi. I plan running multiple Miners through XMRig Proxy.

I want to do the donation on the proxy, and not on the miners. If I set --donate-over-proxy=2, does this bypass the minimum donation level of 1% or would I donate twice(on the proxy and the miners)? thx

is feather wallet still reliable?

yes

I really liked it when I was using it recently

kind of scrappy but gets the job done

.balance

sech1: • Your balance is: 0.00489065 XMR (≈1.82 USD)

.faucet

Mo​chi101: Triangle is h​ow many sides?

3

Mochi101: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000013 XMR to Mochi101 [2c8caf7e] Wait ≈23 hrs 58 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01713631

.balance

Mochi101: • Your balance is: 0.0000074 XMR (≈0 USD)

.tip sech1 all

Mochi101: Ooops! Not enough in your balance..

.faucet

s​ech1: Of 4​ and 3, which is 4

4

sech1: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000014 XMR to sech1 [973b04a7] Wait ≈23 hrs 56 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01713491

yay!

Finally I'm allowed into the game

congrats

.faucet

li​thiumpt: How many lette​rs in BHC

3

lithiumpt: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000071 XMR to lithiumpt [3f030d03] Wait ≈1 day 41 sec before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01712781

the wallet bot should be programmed to ask an open problem in math every now and then

what do you mean by open? unsolved like riemann's hypothesis? :P

.faucet

h​mmp: Snow W​hite + her dwarfs

seven

hmmp: Oops that is not correct. Try again later. (No not immediately or I'll just ignore you..)

lol

8

these questions are too hard for my IQ

haha i guess the current trivia questions are hard enough sometimes

Monero is for normal people

very important point

.balance

phrack: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command.

phrack: • Your balance is: 0 XMR

.login

.register

M4268583364[m]: /msg NickServ help - freenode.net/kb/answer/registration - WARNING! DO NOT ISSUE /msg COMMANDS IN CHANNEL! You risk exposing email/pass to everyone..

<Jeremih> but it won't work

<Jeremih> who do I need to message

.faucet

p​hrack: How many​ digits is 0

1

phrack: @bonuspot tipped 0.00001 XMR to phrack [4fe87725] Wait ≈23 hrs 59 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01711781

yay :D

.faucet

I​nge-: Sum of 1st mi​llion digits of pi, times zero

0

Inge-: @bonuspot tipped 0.00001 XMR to Inge- [65155059] Wait ≈23 hrs 56 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01710781

.balance

Inge-: • Your balance is: 0.0051792 XMR (≈1.96 USD)

I can tell you why you can't stop the 'spam'. You are thinking in cult doctrine. If it was real spam, and I was selling Viagra for example - you could easily ban keywords and urls. Instead, stop being a sheep, think like a cult leader. Recoginse that this 'spam' is just some bullshit that you tell to the sheep.

Look at me... I am the cult leader now.

what's the theoretical maximum of transactions per second?

currently we're at like a transaction every other second iirc. monero is described as scalable. but just how scalable is it.

There's no well defined limit.

The better your computer, the more it can keep up with. Same with other nodes on the network.

As the tx load increases, the weakest nodes starts to be unable to keep up and drop.

There's no real arbitrary limit either, though blocks have to be < 4 GB IIRC.

But I think that's just a technical limit.

Your computer will be wedged well before reaching that.

.balance

hxr404: Your default coin is now set to XMR. Change with coins command.

hxr404: • Your balance is: 0 XMR

.faucet

h​xr404: What number is O​NE

1

hxr404: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000066 XMR to hxr404 [e7909402] Wait ≈23 hrs 53 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01710121

who/what ist bonuspot?

why are they giving away free money

< 4 GB?

.balance

mechanimist[m]: Access denied for balance. Are you logged in?

access denied. killbots dispatched to user's address

D:

That guy yesterday made me think... If I like privacy and don't appreciate people spying on me... maybe that does mean I'm in a dangerous cult... 🤔... I really gotta start letting people intrude in my personal matters more... What a nice gentleman to have Woke me up...I gotta get my crap together and get a neuralink installed asap❤ Thank you strange man

<Jeremih> You should publish your account details and banking info too!

fibonacci: pls share seed phrase

<fibonacci "That guy yesterday made me think"> kek

<Jeremih> We can share our monero

You will DO what Monero tells you to do. You will JUMP when you are told to jump. And most importantly you will DISCONNECT whoever Scientology^H^H^H^H^H I mean Mnero tells you to disconnect. Otherwise you WILL end up like lh1008 here:

monerologs.net/monero-community/20210114#c181614 And you will do it all for FREE. Because Monero is open souce :D Just like Linux is there to pay for $700k watches that Torvalds wears.

<Jeremih> Shut the fuck up

no use yellin at a bot

<Jeremih> Makes sense

hello,

how to transfer from cli monero that is in address 1

transfer 1 address amount

where i insert address index because is giving me error

Spending from address index 0

but i have on index 1

Try: help transfer

I think you add "index=1" in the command somewhere.

i added but again error

how to print address index

confused between address and account

i found was index=0

thnx

moneromooo: "As the tx load increases, the weakest nodes starts to be unable to keep up and drop." Can you explain how this dropping mechanism works?

boogerlad[m]: they're behind other nodes or they crash

There's a block every two minutes on average. A given device can verify N txes per second. N varies between devices. As the number of txes in blocks goes past N for a while, that device cannot verify fast enough to keep up.

speaking of... Is throwing more cores enough? Can tx verification be done in parallel?

Yes. Some of it anyway.

I had a patch to verify incoming txes in batches, did not get in (it'd add latency).

Might be more palatable when tx rate grows further significantly.

is there some sort of queue for nodes that can't keep up? Say it's a temporary spike in traffic

Sure, they'll catch up later if it's just a spike.

And the larger the spike, the longer they'll take to catch up.

What is the limit for such a queue? RAM capacity? If so, I guess a "crash" would be oom?

We're not there yet though. My laptop has no problem whatsoever, and I build stuff and run heavy tests a lot.

No limit, it'll just grab blocks slower from other nodes.

... limits are for bitcoin

s/slower/later/

oh I see, Monero nodes operate in a "pull from other nodes" fashion? and when a node is behind, it's no longer eligible to be pulled from by other nodes on the network?

It's push when the node's synced, and pull when it's catching up.

any node can still serve blocks to any other node that's behind it

also catching up nodes can't relay transactions

I have a 1GB/s internet, if my node connects to another 1GB/s node would they connect at that speed (excluding other factors like hard drive transfers)

let's say there's node A that's synced, and it pushes to its neighbor B that is also synced. If B falls behind, does A continue to push to B? Of course, B can ignore (?) but is there a way for B to tell A to stop pushing until further notice?

Always IIRC, I made a patch to avoid this at some point but did not PR, mostly because it's not much currently and there's a bit of a lag before a node learns of the current state of a peer.

If you're trying to ask "can it be sped up", then yes.

I'm just super curious about how distrubuted systems work

of course, at the current .3tx/sec, it's a non issue

@booger

boogerlad: I really enjoyed this series of blog posts: nakamoto.com/p2p-networking

might be baby stuff for you idk, but the historical parts are still a fun read then

that post and the next two pages of it are all good p2p networking material

boogerlad: fun fact: satoshi ran a distributed computer with a shit ton of cpus when bitcoin was first launched

People have tracked the blocks he mined with this system called the patoshi miner

Thats how we know satoshi has 1 million btc

were they all running plan9 on throwaway university computers?

probably why the miner didn't have gpu support for so long lmao

Bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/

He is the updated 2019 analysis of satoshis patoshi miner bitslog.com/2019/04/16/the-return-of-the-deniers-and-the-revenge-of-patoshi/

volantaryism1[m]: where did you get the distributed part from? the article seems to imply the fingerprint is from a specific computer leaving bitcoind running

bitcoin didn't have pools or miners outside of the daemon back then

asymptotically: listened to a podcast by the guy who wrote those articles, think he said that the patoshi miner was using many cpus to prevent the network from being 51% attacked in its infancy

volantaryism1[m]: sounds cool :) do you have a link to the podcast?

early btc history is fuckin WEIRD

did you know there was a poker client in early releases of bitcoin?

Hey, is anyone having trouble with their node?

I'm trying to sync, stuck at 99.9755% at block 2345133

mine seems to be fine at block 2345133

mine is fine at 2345134

well, nevermind. I restarted the daemon, was stuck. Restarted the VM, seems to be working now

false alarm, lol

asymptotically: cant find the vid on youtube - it had like 300 views

I have the video downloaded on a computer but i wont be able to access it for a while

woah:

"----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 2345152"

first time i see that

Does that mean 2 blocks were made at once?

i guess so!

Oh shit. That's really really bad :(

lol

someone must be missing out on their block reward

Oh, wait, I'm confuisng it with BLOCK ADDED AS HYPERACTIVE ON WEIGHT 2302343.

It just means two miners found a block adding on the same one. One of them will win. No worries.

So it's a short term fork, most likely one block long. Happens daily.

yes, just cool to witness it

I have only been running a node for a week, this is the first time i spot that happening

mechanimist: are you using the CLI wallet? I have never used it

<moneromooo "Oh, wait, I'm confuisng it with "> what would this mean?

If you see a LOT of these, it means someone mined along and sent their chain later on.

It would mean... gullibiity I think.

i see

s/along/alone/

<volantaryism1[m] "mechanimist: are you using the C"> just the daemon, which is cli

<moneromooo "It would mean... gullibiity I th"> confused about what this means

You can ignore that tbh.

are EAE attacks unavoidable?

as far as I understand you can churn it between yourself to lower the probability

but if you went from one transaction directly to an exchange would you be very easily identified

transaction to you, then from you to an exchange

AFAIK it's only if you go from the ecxhange then to the same exhcange, and do that more than once, and both times you send an output you got from that exchange.

So depending on your particulars, it might be likely/unlikely.

Churning helps, but I don't think it helps *that* much.

it helps if you do it a few times and over time

Just don't send your coins to a spy hub :)

and if you don't do churning at the exact same time every day

timing analysis can filter out most ring members

Why does the Saviour of NASA take a group achievement award and present it as a proof of individual glory? twitter.com/hyc_symas/status/1203709575226183683

>he doesnt turn his node on and off to match a timezone different to that of your own to feed bad metadata to chainanalysis companies scraping data from nodes

volantaryism1[m]: What?

i'm gone. i'll come back once we're broke. cu

apotheon: imagine you live in GMT+1, you could turn on your node at lets say 8am GMT-7 and off at 9pm GMT-7 to prevent using your node to guess your approx timezone

Bit excessive tho

hm

Just set 'em all to UTC.

Today, I realized that time zones and DST are just surveillance differentiators.

.flip

yeah, all modern computers use UTC internally anuwau

anyway

I suspect there are exceptions.

programmers hate timezones.

UTC all the way, never have to think about it

relevant ^

What kind of person steals from their own community? removeddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6d…ds_to_give_up_his_commit_access_and (changed link to removeddit since /r/monero mod removed to try to cover it up - maybe fluffy himself?)

endor00: this video stresses me out so much hahaha but good ending 👍🏽

okmvjbqof: too long didnt read

Has oneone ever used the exchange Changenow.io

Bigboiimike: nope

fudge

That being said I have never used any exchange

i was exchanging BTC to Monero thru the cakewallet and its just simply gone

it says my funds are safe to email them but that was 24 hours ago and the site says there turn around time is less than 5 hours

something about it wasn't confirmed enough times in 20 minutes

Bigboiimike: is your monero wallet synced correctly?

I am probably not the best resource

I was on the chat with cakewallet and they helped me thru the process

Bigboiimike: reddit.com/r/monerosupport/comments…ng_up_in_cake_wallet_12_hours_after

i sent BTC from cashapp to cakewallet and that was very fast, then when i went to use there convert the rest is history

Bigboiimike: glad you figured it out!

i havent gotten the funds tho lol

they walked me thru setting up a XMR wallet and a BTC wallet

Good to hear

the monero wallet on the site wont work for me

when you did the exchange

what monero address did you put in for the exchange

Bigboiimike: is your monero wallet sync’ed?

you setup the monero wallet first before exchanging right?

yes

How would i find out if it is synced? I am new to this stuff.

you sent it to your monero wallet within cake wallet right

The cakewallet filled it in, I just had to select it from the address book

Yes

i verified the first 5 numbers were the same and its showing the same numbers

when you first load up the wallet

the "home page" of the wallet

at the top there is a bar that shows the status

Bigboiimike: at the top of your wallet, there should be a green dot and “synced”

or it would have an orange dot “xxxx Blocks Remaining”

let me look one second

It says 653 blocks remaining

Yes its synced

Oh shit its there

wtf

yayyyy!!!!

Balance doesnt show until sync is finished

you just didn’t load it (:

Ohhhhhhhhhh

lmfao

i told you i was new to this lol

Hell yeah

happens to the best of us. we all started somewhere

wtf

happy monero🥳🥳

I sent 300$ in BTC and now the balance says $179 USD

wooooooow

because of the wait for them to fix it the BTC price dropped

which service did you use?

i let it sit there for awhile before they must have just fixed it

How much was bitcoin fee?

the one built into the Exchange feature in cakewallet

btc fees are brutal currently, but 300 -> 180$ sounds extra bad

Btw cakewallet literally just uses changenow and then charges an extra fee on top

it said the exchange fee was $35

woooow

Not really ethical in my opinion

i need $180 XMR

this is retarded

Bigboiimike: i don’t think that’s everything. monero dropped like $75

oh really?

Since 24 hours ago?

Btw use litecoin instead of bitcoin to reduce bitcoin fees

yeah

XMR dropped

yes yes don’t use BTC for cakewallet. BTC fees are way to high

use LTC to avoid high fees

avoid using exchange services to avoid other high fees that they charge you too

I use BTC cause i currently hold BTC and dont want to sell because of the drop

coin swap services i mean

Bigboiimike: if it makes you feel better your BTC would also have dropped a bunch over the past 24 hours

so it’s hard to say which is which

you can use tradeogre and do direct btc/xmr trades

Yeah my BTC dropped a lot in 24 hours

Now i need to do another transfer as i need 15$ more in my XMR waller

wallet

use tradeogre

So another $30 in fees and more time wasted

Bigboiimike: have you considered buying from an exchange directly?

Localmonero.co if you dont want to use an exchange

What are some good anonymous crypto exchanges , particularly tor friendly

Bigboiimike: remember to reconnect immediately this time

so sell off the BTC i want to use to turn into XMR and just buy from the exchange and then use my debit to buy the XMR and have them send to my Cakewallet?

Oh so initiate the transfer and then load my XMR wallet ?

It took 20 minutes to get 1 confirmation yesterday

Bigboiimike: don’t buy directly from the exchange there. send litecoin there and do the exchange in-app

I don't own any litecoin i have BTC

it shouldn’t take that long. usually if you manually reconnect it loads right away

to sell the BTC and move it to buy Litecoin i would be paying the same amount in fees

any transactions on the btc network are going to take forever right now

if you have btc on an exchange where youre not paying transaction fees

you can just swap it for ltc

then withdraw the ltc from the exchange

I have BTC on Cashapp

oh

sigh bitcoin pains

well use tradeogre

or cake wallet

from Cashapp to Cakewallet BTC took less than 3 minutes

maybe you can adjust the fee for the coinswap in cakewallet

it takes less than 3 minutes for the transaction to be broadcast

but youre going to wait 30m-1hr for the confirmations required

i had the BTC in my cakewallet 3 minutes after sending it from cashapp

before the coin swap service is going to swap your btc out for xmr

yes

broadcasting a transaction is almost instant

the confirmations are what takes time

im not sure of changenow's exact policy with confirmations but most people make you wait for 2-3 confirmations before fully accepting your btc and swapping it

I'm only sending $100 this time to see if it screws me again as i only need $20 or so

well use tradeogre then

so much ive paid in fees in the past 2 months

probaly around normal job 1 month pay

crypto.com absolutely screwed me

charged 2.99% to buy crypto and then another $180 to sell

but says it has no fees but i noticed it when selling

Bigboiimike: glad you have discovered monero, we like low fees

My guy told me about it awhile ago i just have had a lot going on so i havent had the time to do any research

Having this room right here has been a huge help, thats why i constantly stay conneted when i can

can you send litecoin from paypal?

Bigboiimike: it takes some time to find your groove, but also try keeping a small stash of crypto in your Kucoin trading wallet. fees are low and small amounts of withdrawal has minimal KYC

Is monero pretty stable as far as how the price goes? I might as well convert a larger amount of bitcoin into XMR as I'm going to need XMR quite frequently

Bigboiimike: no lol it was 420 on 420 and it’s $350 now

lol

keep USDT

in your trading wallet

and what was the best wallet to use for holding USDT?

most things are USDT-paired

it depends on how much. as long as it’s not your whole stash, you can sign up for Celsius and park your USDT there and earn 10.5% APY when you’re not touching it

Yeah thats what im reading now, I'm new to this side of crypto but im eager to learn its just costing me a fortune lol

it’s rite of passage man. i still make mistakes. i bought something with my debit card the other day (fat fingers) and lost 3% for no reason

Bigboiimike: Celsius pays out interest rewards every Monday. it’s much better than your bank account if you don’t mind the crypto risk

I hate holding USDT

how much money do they claim to have at this point

and you can take it out anytime as long as you white list your wallet right away

abcdefg_irssi: sorry i misspoke. i usually park it in USDC, but you’d still have to convert it back to USDT on an exchange like Kucoin

but luckily the fees are noooooooooowhere near what you get for BTC

BTC is slow and expensive

isnt DAI the good stablecoin

I don't even know i never really hold stable coins

I had like 10k in USDT for like 20 minutes one time

abcdefg_irssi: DAI is great too. USDT is the worst but for bigboiimike’s purposes if it’s just a holding period between XMR trades it’s probably fine

all stable coins are 10.5% so it really doesn’t matter what you hold it in, but if you’re going to need to convert back to USDT at some point you might as well just keep it in USDT. all the fees really add up and our crypto journey is long

IS there a such place where i can just buy XMR with debit and use that insdead of doing all this exchanging?

Kraken

buying directly from kraken is $$$$$$$

That's just a online wallet right? I need a local wallet

kraken is an exchange

if you want a local wallet use the official GUI or CLI

Bigboiimike: you can withdraw from kraken to whatever wallet you want to

It woont let me

but you would need to set up a node/connect to a remote node

kraken is also a huge pain to deposit fiat on

Bigboiimike: what do you mean😂

if you live in a decently big city try local monero

I'm sure i will find my groove eventually

or look for a crypto atm

crypto atm has fees though

after i log into the monero GUI a page pops up and says something about trying to run monerod.exe manually

this is when we go back to. we always go back to localmonero 😂

localmonero is the shit

it used to let me login and things were fine but then one day bam it stopped so i deleted all of it and reinstalled and same thing

Bigboiimike: you can download monero from getmonero.org/downloads

Man this bacrypt spectacle is captivating!

*monero GUI wallet

I have

here let me do it again and ill tell you exactly what it says

www.getmonero.org/downloads

Bigboiimike: do you use Windows?

yes

sounds like anti virus blocking monerod.exe

How do i whitelist it?

if thats the correct work

word

it worked once before

do you use anti-virus

or windows defender

or some shit

defender

and i have Mcaffee

probably just turn it off

uninstall mcafee

Lol

I have no idea you will have to look into the settings of those programs and figure it out I haven't used AV programs since 2008

i have only had this pc for a week and it says it blocked over 3k unsafe things already wtf

mcafee is spyware, uninstall it

mcafee on windows is useless

fuck windows, use linux!

Bigboiimike: another alternative for a monero wallet is feather wallet

it might be easier for you to use starting out

oh yea i forgot about that

just use feather

on desktop

How much privacy do you get from using multiple addresses using Bitcoin?

uhh

depends on how you do it

but its still all public

yes everything is public and linked

Yeah, I just wonder how that works. When you use multiple addresses that are linked to one private key

as always there are different possible solutions for different threat models

multiple addresses within the same wallet?

@abcdefg_irssi: yeah, that's what I meant

I believe each public address also has a corresponding unique private key, but your wallet shares the same seed

I mean, obviously it's not private enough, otherwise we wouldn't need Monero, but still... Maybe it gives some layer of privacy

@abcdefg_irssi: I see

if you're using something like electrum the public keys would not be linked to each other until you link them either via a single sweep transaction or withdrawing from a KYC exchange to that wallet address

depends whose looking and what resources they have

there might be other ways to link public keys together I'm not sure exactly

BTC is in general very bad for privacy

And of course if a balance matches with another wallet

here is a visual that may help.... pbs.twimg.com/media/EoNazPsXEAIe7VQ?format=jpg&name=small

what wallet are you using?

I'm using diferent wallets atm. But I got this multiple addresses feature on in my Exodus Wallet.

yes you should use that and use a new address for every transaction

Yeah, it's less obvious I guess when using multiple addresses, but it can still traced back I guess

electrum links addresses to whatever electrum server you connect to

oh really

oh so btc is just fucked

completley

wallets like Wasabi are a little better in that regard but yeah

wasabi also doesn't support RBF so, it really is a mess when it comes to bitcoin desktop wallets

so literally its that easy to connect multiple public addresses to one owner?

Does anyone know what kind of exchange they have for the Exodus wallet? Is it something you can trust?

well only the person running the electrum server would know but yeah if you use electrum and don't run your own server it is

ah

so you can run your own server and get around that?

yeah, you have to run bitcoind+electrumx

Bitcoins privacy approach:

Dont look at the chain pleeeeeease

LyzaL: RBF was one of the worst things to ever come to bitcoin... literally killed bitcoins use as a currency

Killed zero conf assumptions