does xmrig run on 32 bit hardware?

.faucet

N​orkle: Three Little Pigs + th​eir houses

Norkle: Oops that is not correct. Try again later. (No not immediately or I'll just ignore you..)

4

/exit

is there any crypto currency that could be mined on 32 bit linux?

I think 32 bit or 64 bit is not the problem.

have a spare 32 bit hardware that could be put to use

You'd probably need a huge cluster of 32b Intel x87 CPUs for that to work out.

err

s/x87/x86/

swrangsar: monero if anything

give it a shot

I'm thinking about taking all my other crypto assets and putting them into monero only.

All these altcoins make my head spin sometimes.

@ishikawa[m]: I was thinking the same today!

There's no reason to HODL every shitcoin

<Kontvolkoren "There's no reason to HODL every "> Agreed! and everytime i make a swap or trade on a KYC exchange...thats a taxable event.

I like to keep things simple, i dont think i need all these coins

True that

So, say you swap everything to Monero. How about taxes?

You just tell them you spend your crypto?

Well put it all into monero, im going to report my tax for this year and after that im going to "sell" all my monero.

Not sure how everything works when it comes to taxes, depends on your country too... In the US you don't have to pay taxes when you're just hodling, right?

<Kontvolkoren "Not sure how everything works wh"> That is true

If your making trades your going to have to pay tax

Well were i am anyway

I feel they make up the laws as they go along

hold more than a year and you pay the lower rate long term capital gains

Yeah, I believe here in the Netherlands you have to give up the price of your crypto of every 1st of januari

ishikawa: always playing catch up lol people are always one step ahead

your state will vary

usa ofc

Ah, it's even different by state

I believe most states have an income tax

I plan to sell off my alt coins.

And "sell" off my monero.

And that person will probably put it in cold storage somewhere

some don't

were im from its taxed as capital gains tax

everytime you make a trade

of the ones that do some treat gains as regular income

has to be reported

ishikawa: just “sell” it at cost basis to said person

and in some states some cities have income tax lol

ishikawa: if you are SO UNLUCKY as to lose money on your XMR god forbid then at least you’d be able to get a deduction ;)

<bobbieweirder[m] "ishikawa: just “sell” it at cost"> Yes, and then said person can use non KYC exchanges from then on out .

or just spend four months in Puerto Rico

you might have to report it at fair value

even if you gift someone your crypto you have to pay taxes on gains at market value

nioc: he would sell it when XMR dumps

@nioc: Ugh

sounds like someone I knew lol

<nioc "sounds like someone I knew lol"> Yeah this also sounds like someone i know.

That's what I hate about crypto and KYC... I mean like, when I give someone some cash as a gift I don't have to report that either

Or maybe I do, but no one does that

you already paid taxes on the cash

Ah yes, of course

Yeah crypto tax laws are all over the damn place.

Particularity were i'm from.

ishikawa: i don’t think “sell” is the right word. you should “spend” it because you might get in trouble for selling it with money service business laws

<bobbieweirder[m] "ishikawa: i don’t think “sell” i"> oh yes thats what i meant.......spend

in the us on the first page of the tax return there is a checkbox asking if you ever did anything with crypto

ishikawa: yes yes yes. def talk to a CPA well versed in crypto

Same here im my country, apparently there cracking down on it this year hard

And its confusing alot of people

<bobbieweirder[m] "ishikawa: yes yes yes. def talk "> Will do ;)

talk to 2 people and get 2 different answers :D

nioc: yes. at least in the US the tax person just needs to be able to make a legally justified position, and reasonable minds differ on tax ref interpretation

So yeah, here in The Netherlands you can only have to report the price of your crypto once a year, you give the price what it was on January 1st. If you spend your crypto before that date, you don't have to declare it

so def shop for answers lol

hopefully by now there is more guidance and agreement on what is correct

Kontvolkoren: stimulate the monero economy!!🥳

wealth tax

I have never really thought of it... And it makes my head spin

Also, I don't feel like they need to know I own crypto

But yeah, I did KYC in the past...

nioc: i wish i were rich enough to hire one of those cryptonomad guys

I think if you KYC in the past you can still get "out" right?

And not own any cryptos right?

Is this logic correct

Lets just say i dont want to be on KYC exchanges anymore, and i want to get rid of all my cryptos.

nioc: good luck taxing me behind 9 stealth addresses

Is this possible?

I've never left my crypto on an exchange, not sure if that works in my favor

what do you mean? you can technically do whatever you want as long as the tax man gets a slice

@bobbieweirder[m]: lol indeed

<bobbieweirder[m] "what do you mean? you can techni"> Lets just say i pay my tax this year and then "get out"

like full defi?

Give him this years slice

and "get out"

Yes, you can

And stay in Monero

yeah of course

Monero circular economy when

<bobbieweirder[m] "yeah of course"> correct

On the other hand, you can still mine/buy other crypto, just don't use it

<Kontvolkoren "Yes, you can"> correct

if you make money elsewhere, like in stocks or whatever, it might just make sense to harvest your losses and “get out”

start over in a more, let’s say, “tax hygienic” way

sorry i keep quoting the wrong message lol

kek

<bobbieweirder[m] "start over in a more, let’s say,"> Yeah this was the plan

Non KYC etc

They'll come for the KYC exchanges first

Kontvolkoren: low hanging fruit

Then they'll try to analyze the blockchain

we basically hand out info out on a platter begging them to take our money

Not only to tax you, but just to spy on you

Yeah they are getting weird about cryptos in my country.

Its fully transparent what there plans are.

<Kontvolkoren "Not only to tax you, but just to"> Yes this

Kontvolkoren: use a different addresses 1 time

Well, the thing is... People shouldn't get wealthy, that's not the plan

They're losing control this way

Kontvolkoren: not on transparent chains

Only getting worse

Im really only into coins and tech that support and respect privacy.

For me thats what is so powerful about projects like monero and i want to support and be a part of that.

Kontvolkoren: but only wealthy people have healthcare or will be able to afford water when the climate apocalypse comes😢

I dont really care to much about making big $$$ i mean thats nice but this shit is more than that to me.

I read a few papers today where researchers were able to identify IPs of bitcoin addresses by owning only a few nodes

I want to people using monero more and more

When my friend owns me anything, he pays in monero

<volantaryism1[m] "I read a few papers today where "> can you share?

Hmm, is an IP address logged when you do a transaction?

I'm on a VPN anyways

Kontvolkoren: bitcoin doesnt have dandelion++, so if you can see the IP of thr first node a tx

can use btc with tor

*the ip of the first node a tx is broadcast from

i know this is amateur hour but can someone point me to some reputable resources on risks of BTC 2nd layer privacy?

<nioc "can use btc with tor"> I second this

Ah, true that

Get a whonix install running with electrum

and monero gui/cli

bobbieweirder: have to connect with IP address 24/7 to have channel open

or just us samouri/wasabi both which connect via tor

* or just us samorai/wasabi both which connect via tor

Also dont use bitcoin wallets that reuse refund addresses

volantaryism1: this is LN?

The more I think of it, the more I only want to be in Monero

bobbieweirder: yes LN nodes must be kept online or risk losing funds

<Kontvolkoren "The more I think of it, the more"> Could not agree more! the more things go on

There are some methods to snoop of LN as a lot of txs are routed through a few super connected nodes

I believe I have shared this visual aide before pbs.twimg.com/media/EoNazPsXEAIe7VQ?format=jpg&name=small

And they'll come for you. They'll try to tax the shit of everything

*snoop on

There are alot of changes going on in the regulatory sectors regarding crypto right now its fucked

nioc: and it still wont work lol

Are the [m] guys on Matrix/Element?

Transparent chains that utilize a lot of coinjoin like bitcoin cash have decent privacy as if you join enough coinfusions the number of possible inputs and outputs soon reaches number of atoms in the universe level

volantaryism1: what is the LN privacy mechanism?

Bitcoin cash has built in auto cashfusion that automatically coinjoins in background

volantaryism1: but isn’t this kind of like wasabi? if you’re an outlier, meaning your transaction size is bigger than the rest, you’re still screwed

People have still be burned becauue of coinjoin

I dont trust it

bobbieweirder: not an expert in lightning but i believe the privacy benefit is that tx are not recorded on chain

* People have still be burned because of coinjoin

bobbieweirder: coinjoins on bitcoin cash are a bit more advanced than in bitcoin but the drawbacks are similar

volantaryism1: i get that but the whole revolutionary point of crypto is blockchain. if it’s not on chain it’s just like a fancy venmo

i know i sound like an idiot i just really don’t understand the point of LN

Lets say you join a fusion with similar outputs X, and you put in Y (which is X + Z not joined) the Z is not considered anon and must be kept separate from X

i guess if a bunch of people already have BTC and they want to use it it’s a bandaid to fix base layer problems...

volantaryism1: i think this makes sense to me

True, UX of lightning is 100x times worse than lightning, its no surpirise that there is only 1200BTC on lightning but around 160,000 wrapped BTC on eth

*100X worse than venmo

Coinjoins could help btc privacy but they are so expensive i actually read a paper today that stated that because of high coinjoin fees all txs should be from malicious actors...

volantaryism1: i think there are people in some developing countries who use LN and it’s much better than when they were sans LN

some BTC maxis don’t want people to use LN though

but i mean also how do you expect people to pay $27 fees for a $25 tx

bobbieweirder: they are probably using a custodial wallet - all of the popular ones are, so you destroy the whole point

bobbieweirder: read some maxis twitter... fees are good aparently😂

<volantaryism1[m] "True, UX of lightning is 100x ti"> this literally defeats the entire purpose

<volantaryism1[m] "bobbieweirder: they are probably"> anything that is not on chain theoretically destroys the whole point

They call on chain a settlement layer... as if txs are unsettled elsewhere lol

volantaryism1: on LN it is not really “settled” in the technical sense right?

it’s like on Venmo if you send money to someone they see that money in their account right away

but it’s not actually “settled” until both banks are cleared. in a sense Venmo is just fiat layer 2 😂

You can pay someone on LN and have that removed from your balance, seems settled to me lol

but it’s not settled on chain!!😭

i see what you are saying. i just feel like we are replicating the fiat/venmo problem on BTC/LN

royal “we”

Anyone here ?

Interested in learning more about XMR

🦍 L 🦍: pretty sure i scared everyone off😂

yes 667 people are here. try reddit.com/r/monero or getmonero.org

<bobbieweirder[m] "🦍 L 🦍: pretty sure i scared ev"> I scare dopeheads & crackheads off IRL - I think we can be besties

hey

in order to change my node on my vps to public

what do i add to the .conf file

i have it working as a private remote node rn

I want to learn how XMR works on the technical side

I've been in BTC since 2012

and in ETH 2016

but I think XMR is the way forward

🦍 L 🦍: have you had a chance to read the whitepaper yet?

Link ?

L[m]2: masteringmonero.com

btw I have a BA/MA in Econ , Math Minor - Ex Wall St Quant

free book if you are interested in learning monero

I need like technical shit

like the white paper

if you are more interested in the math part look into web.getmonero.org/library/Zero-to-Monero-2-0-0.pdf

and programmers

that's as technical as it will get :P

🦍 L 🦍: getmonero.org/resources/research-lab/pubs/whitepaper_annotated.pdf

<selsta "if you are more interested in th"> thats the shit homie !

bobbieweirder: nice tnx

Who running nodes here ?

I run a couple

Want to TLDR me on nodes ?

im trying to set one up rn

well it is set up i just need to make it public

can you run a hidden service node and a clearnet off the same vps lol

Are there any interesting XMR clone projects or people building on the network ?

Like L2s ?

Polkadot doing L0s

kinda got sold into looking more into it but still didnt have time to do it

🦍 L 🦍: check out Haveno. it’s not layer two but it’s a really interesting project. defi fiat <> XMR and all XMR based pairs

but that’s not layer two

L0? layer 0?

Yea

Supposed to secure L1 chains

Havent had time to read the white paper yet

🦋 B 🦋:

Take a look B

🦋 B 🦋: <-- Bitch with a 144 IQ

there is a clean version on getmonero (not annotated) but i found the annotated v to be very helpful

Anyone day trade here or want to learn ?

I teach people free on my room ( STC.MAIN.OFFICIAL. )

check out monero markets

trying to do something with Matrix and XMR now

Like link the two

IRC -> Blockchain

Could be a fun project to anyone who program here

#monero-markets:monero.social

tnx

<bobbieweirder[m] "#monero-markets:monero.social"> Whats this room ?

price talk / markets / trading

#STC.MAIN.OFFICIAL.:matrix.org <- My room

I've been day trading 15 yrs and Ex Wall St.

Series 7/63 CFA L2

Used to do Quant Equity Research under a Ph.D. Accountant on Wall St.

lol an equity researcher calling himself a quant

umm no

I wasnt a scrub

I covered like 5.5k stocks

homie

About 2.5k domestic and 3k international

My former bank makes Goldman look poor

Private

osineofine: <-- This faggot is clearly poor LOL

I traded like 1 stock

w0w

Dont sweat it , traditional markets for have no leverage for people with small accounts

not even worth it

FX & Cryptos is where its at

I just listen to my Cat

she made a great trade yesterday

That nigger hates you

called the bottom

.faucet

Will eat your eyeballs as soon as you dont feed her

it's all about Love

N​orkle: Of 6 ​? 2, which is 6

6

Norkle: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000011 XMR to Norkle [aa5f1301] Wait ≈23 hrs 59 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01729644

Remember when DOGEshit faucets were everywehere

now people so dumb they pay for it lol

FREECOIN

LOL

whats going on

how the fuck do i get this node to be public

Tell you what

go to STC.MAIN.OFFICIAL.

no

ima look into it now

well fuck you then faggot

seethe dweeb

what can I tell you continue to be a mediocre dumbass who cant get a node up

well

it works as a private node rn

im trying to make it public

I'm not the one with the problem here

You are lol

well im not joining your trade channel or whatever it is

FACTS.

ill idle in here until someone wants to help me

<L[m]2 "That nigger hates you "> dude not cool

🦋 B 🦋: <-- This bitche's DOGE has a higher IQ than him --> abcdefg_irssi

are you getting this error message: "No incoming connections - check firewalls/routers allow port 18080"

<bobbieweirder[m] "dude not cool"> bro grow some balls

no

I grew up in Brooklyn

18080 is allowed

abcdefg_irssi: post the output of "status"

You will DO what Monero tells you to do. You will JUMP when you are told to jump. And most importantly you will DISCONNECT whoever Scientology^H^H^H^H^H I mean Mnero tells you to disconnect. Otherwise you WILL end up like lh1008 here:

monerologs.net/monero-community/20210114#c181614 And you will do it all for FREE. Because Monero is open souce :D Just like Linux is there to pay for $700k watches that Torvalds wears.

i can connect to the node using --daemon-login

but cannot without it

<arfteemczdx "You will DO what Monero tells yo"> or you can just grow some RIDGES. and rewrite the code to do whatever the fuck you want it to do

it gives me 1. Daemon either is not started or wrong port was passed. Please make sure daemon is running or change the daemon address using the 'set_daemon' command.

when i try to connect

without the --daemon-login

if it helps im running it as a hidden service

so do i use the --rpc-restricted-bind-ip with the .onion address instead of the IP address?

2021-04-24 04:49:10.744 I Monero 'Oxygen Orion' (v0.17.2.0-release)

Error: Problem fetching info-- rpc_request:

Height: 2346065/2346065 (100.0%) on mainnet, mining info unavailable, net hash 2.29 GH/s, v14, 0(out)+0(in) connections

is status

actually thats not accurate

i wasnt on the tmux tab when i ran that status

might help

nice

ty

let me check it out

selsta you run public nodes right now right?

yes but not behind tor

what commands do you use when starting monerod

or do i need to change anything in the bitmonero.conf file

<L[m]2 "I grew up in Brooklyn "> ain’t mean shit. you wanna learn about monero and be part of the community that’s welcomed but doesn’t matter where you’re from. you’re being rude af

<bobbieweirder[m] "ain’t mean shit. you wanna learn"> Nigga I would fuck you up if you said anywhere close to that to my face

I will run my mouth until someone knocks me out

and no one accomplished that in Rikers x3

So shut the fuck up

<TcidenebEH> I’m from England what, what So I must speak proper posh. If you run your mouth you will get digitally knocked out

<TcidenebEH> @needmoney90

bobbieweirder: HHAHHAHHHA

you know what i think im just stupid

This nigger didnt last 5m in MAIN.

#STC.MAIN.OFFICIAL.:matrix.org

and wasnt restarting monerod after making changes

<abcdefg_irssi "you know what i think im just st"> Didn't I tell you this ?

Tried to even help you

You were too stupid to accept help

<TcidenebEH> Don’t think that.

yep thats what it was

L2 post tax return

let me see how much bread you got

post private view key

haha I did something similar yesterday with my wallet and daemon

<abcdefg_irssi "let me see how much bread you go"> bro I have hard ( physical ) BTC checks from 2012

I havent sold a BTC

ok post wallet address

did ETH mining in 2016 blew out breakers in NYC building

then send a satoshi somewhere

you're an idiot

how you even saying that in an XMR channel

like wow

so ur broke

?

no wonder you dont know to run a node

broke boy

you dont even UNDERSTAND why XMR exists

lets see those tax returns big boy trader

<abcdefg_irssi "lets see those tax returns big b"> imagine paying taxes

lol

u have btc checks post wallet addresses

do I look like I work ?

u probably look like ur seething rn

Tell you what if you figure this out ill post a pic for you

this question

no

LOL

dumbbasss

broke boi

i dont answer to ppl who dont clear at least 1.2 a year

<abcdefg_irssi "broke boi"> I am so broke

i know

i can tell

I eat ramen noodles in my moms basement

like no hot water man

its bad

do you sell forex signals too

I snort the powder and pretend its coke

<abcdefg_irssi "do you sell forex signals too"> nah man

u seem like the type of guy

2Sigma wanted to buy my model

I LOL'ed at them

do u make ig videos about your new altcoin investment and the big gains u make

ig ?

whats that ?

to your 235 followers and 150 views

clearly a genius ex wall street "quant equity researcher" has nothing better to do than shill TA lessons in an IRC channel on a friday night

People who show their face online are poor

zero question about that

just join his matrix channel and learn to day trade bro

he will teach u how to make millions day trading

nah I joined for two links

and I got em

ima clone XMR and clown on you fools

good luck

I don't need luck

if you do will you promise to go away

I'm not afraid of hard work

<osineofine "if you do will you promise to go"> no

dont make me bot this room with tranny porn 24/7

nobody cares

You fucking with the wrong person faggot

oh boy im so scared

PSA: If you use Element (and perhaps other matrix clients) then you can ignore obnoxious users, hiding their past messages and any of their further messages.

same on IRC /ignore L[m]2

B.CONFIRM>

mean internet man is going to harass me

B you're dumb af lol

cant type the command correctly lol

oh cool I didn't know irc had that

you people so mediocre

ill probably block him when he stops being entertaining

* B.CONFIRM.

you cant even hang over text chat LOL

you need a safe space LOL

what kind of useless thin skinned faggots are these people IRL 🦋 B 🦋

can we go back to the topic about fucking with the wrong person

what type of person are you

what will you do to me

nothing

youre a peasant

Safe word is worcestershire

lol

oh right you cant actually do anything

thats good to know

yup enjoy your own mediocrity

enjoy being broke

you're not special enough for me to waste time on you

abcdefg_irssi: im gucci

<SpaceKitty> which matrix client yall be using?

<SpaceKitty> checking on the list there: matrix.org/clients-matrix

<SpaceKitty> but like, the fuck do i know 🤷‍♀️

afaik most use Element

Element!

<SpaceKitty> alrighty, thanks :3

D M X - FleshOfMyFlesh BloodOfMyBlood FULL ALBUM

Grow some balls.

Imagine having to say that

thats embaressing

just do it lol

inb4 $XMR is an evil coin used by criminals. We should make it illegal and ban it

<Kontvolkoren "inb4 $XMR is an evil coin used b"> It is thats why I like it

You cant ban crypto tho

Which is why I am ALL.IN. on it

I know man, but look at what the media is doing

I can already smell their next move

Btich you cant smell your own shit after you drop the cosbys by the pool

If you could you would have more money and thats a FACT.

They're trying the same thing they did with Bitcoin, but they don't have to worry about that surveillance coin anymore

BTC is almost at 51% controlled by CHINA

World needs something new

I'm talking to a bot or something?

Best exchanger from BTC TO XMR friends?;)

<Kontvolkoren "I'm talking to a bot or somethin"> you talking to a LEGIT. motherfucker FAGGOT.

<th0rr[m] "Best exchanger from BTC TO XMR f"> DIS.NIGGER.FUKS.

AtomicWallet.io <-- just switch for 1%

he sends a couple messages then shills his matrix channel where he sells stock tips or something

or take it to Binance

It's gonna be an interesting year for crypto

its an exchange i fuck with

localmonero.co for btc to xmr

tradeogre

is what i use for btc to xmr

<Kontvolkoren "It's gonna be an interesting yea"> you're a NEWFAG.

lol

2012 OG here

Who's this 4chan kid?

Bitch ill post RECEIPTS.

>likely protected by the russian government

lmao

Well I am Russian

97% Eastern European genes

damn is that why youre broke

Does that look like I am BROKE. ?

you have carpet floors yes it does

what is that nigger ?

popcorn ceiling too?

what is that?? ? ?

tell me

look up at your ceiling youll see what im talking about

abcdefg_irssi: <-- PLEASE. Tell everyone what is that item in the last picture.

@room is waiting

do u keep everything in cardboard boxes

like wut

got dm'ed by that bot when joining the channel

what should i do?

bot dont wanna talk me :'(

<abcdefg_irssi "do u keep everything in cardboar"> Something from 2012, yes.

What is that ?

Then calculate how much BTC that ONE unit mined

THen take a look at your checking account, savings accounts, your 401(K), the amount of Equity in your house.

Then cry yourself into a hard corner of mediocracy

🦍 L 🦍: what even is u talking about?

3rd gen BTC mining

1st gen CPU

2nd gen GPU

3rd gen FPGA

but you good

asics is not fpga

ASIC is a specialized FPGA , 4th gen

FPGA's can be reprogrammed, ASICS hard coded to do one thing

that baby was poping out 5 BTC / day

yeah, is why asics on btc are paperweight, single purpose bullshit hardware that getting obsolete real quick to become e-waste

I got into BTC @ 2nd GEN

btc is shitcoin nowadays tho

true but its still $50k / coin

not bad for electricity cost

doesnt matter, shitcoin is shitcoin

if you cant sell it who gives a fuck about what coinmarketcap telling you what price it is

DOGE is a shitcoin

ur mom is shitcoin

BTC is still DIgital Gold until quantum computers

lmao

<spacekitty420[m] "ur mom is shitcoin"> my mom is SATAN

gold is fungible, btc isnt

monero is digital gold, not btc

damn sorry bro i didnt realize u were that cool

Told her to invest in BTC in 2012, ETH in 2016 , GME in 2021

She dumb as fuck likes to WAGECUCK.

Master's degree so she makes 6 figures more than you POORFAGS.

post your matrix channel again

who gives a fuck about $ tho

<abcdefg_irssi "damn sorry bro i didnt realize u"> Tony Stark wishes he was this cool

<spacekitty420[m] "who gives a fuck about $ tho"> Well I dont

I give it away

<abcdefg_irssi "post your matrix channel again"> nah fuck you lol

damn bro... can u front me a dub..

<abcdefg_irssi "damn bro... can u front me a dub"> how much you need ?

only people empty in the inside that even more of that $ cant fill them enough to be a happy being still caring about some more even of that $ in the hope they wont be that empty but it just dont work ya know

the QUEEN went to bed she has the petty cash accounts

Otherwise I would send you some BNB for funzies

just want a 40 and some tacos can u front me till i get paid next friday bro

I can do that

thanks next friday is rent tho so ill pay u half then ill pay u the other half my next paycheck

#STC.MAIN.OFFICIAL.:matrix.org

I know how it is being a POORFAG>

thats for being such a cool guy who has so much btc and his own matrix channel

no shame in it bro

<abcdefg_irssi "thanks next friday is rent tho s"> I dont need money you can have it

learn to trade man

won't need money after that

just capital to trade

jfc that channel just so cringe

FX offers 50x-100x leverage

fucking wallstreet wannabe up in here lmao

do that math on a 100k account

hes a quantum trader bro

2% one trade is $2,000

bro thats more than your rent in 5m of work

<spacekitty420[m] "fucking wallstreet wannabe up in"> I worked on Wall St homie

Series 7/63 RECEIPTS.

that's the only thing you can talk about, "$" lmao, fuck... that's sad

Nah man I call them Clown Dollars

its going downhill FED printing them like its going broke

bc it is

Merals, Crypto & GME is what is safe now

*metals

prob being the type of dipshit telling everyone how much dem shoes be costing or that jacket and whatnot

so cringe

I mean I have HUGO boss shoes for $650 but I wear vibrams

and my shoes from Rikers

no one can get

yeah, nobody gives a fuck

you're cringe

and ?

you're too poor to have an opinion anyone cares about spacekitty420:

fair, am a broke ass bitch but idgaf :3

at least i can talk about other shits with people than "oooh $$$$ LOL SOME MORE $$$ RETARD REEEEE AUTSTICAL SCREECHING $$$" :derp: 😹

like, how about you find yourself a life 🦍 L 🦍:

Bro I can literally send you more BTC than you will ever need in your life

and it will be an accounting error on my books

yo im here

in your matrix room

start a conference call

but i dont give a fuck about your shitcoin, go shill it to someone else lmao

talk shit over the mic

<spacekitty420[m] "but i dont give a fuck about you"> money doesnt stink homie

yours does

maybe

but ppl still want it

ppl dont want your dirty ass bitcoin lmao

and even if they wanted to, how about when you get that long ass blocktime cause difficulty readjustment is every 2016 blocks

like.... few weeks long block

cause no one mining that shit

cause fees got taken offchain with segwith and LN and all those 2nd layer bullshits

<spacekitty420[m] "ppl dont want your dirty ass bit"> I got millions of DOGE

want some DOGEshit ?

who gives a fuck, like, good on you, nobody gives a fuck tho

you can have it free just suck my dick for it lol

i mean......... we could do that but then dont come crying if i get the knife out to cut it then peg your wallstreet wannabe ass with your own dick

Bro LOL

First knife fight ive been in was 2 v 1 when I was like 12 yo

I grew up in Brooklyn

oooooh that makes more sense, a retard american wall street wannabe lmao

I didnt start with the knife I was rolling my newborn brother from daycare

Lets fuck

and thats a GOOD neighborhood in brooklyn FAGGOT.

MURICA

lmao 😹

just kiss already jesus what is this couple fighting

please keep it civil in this channel

there aint no cypherpunks no more, only dipshit wallstreet wannabes

binaryfate you should probably just ban this guy

already dropped hard r's in the channel

yeah maybe, I didn't scroll through all

binaryFate: i reported several

oh man... thought I was in pools. ;)

<bobbieweirder[m] "binaryFate: i reported several"> Imagine being a thin skinned FAGGOT. like that LOL

do you tell on you wife to your mom too ?

thanks binaryFate

really didn’t appreciate people in here being called the N word or the F word for trying to help

What's was that guys deal? I left then came back and then he was still going lol

🤣

Probably smoked a bit too much mETH

Talking with no purpose

abcdefg_irssi challenged him to a conference call

Ahahaha

respect

Mad respect lol

Remember people he's from Brooklyn

Lol lol

I'm sure he mentioned that multiple times

Still have no idea why he was going on like that I think Mochi102 was right.

Perhaps to much meth

ishikawa: while you were gone $ARRR flipped $ZEC

<bobbieweirder[m] "ishikawa: while you were gone $A"> What!? Lol

Maybe my dad is on to something here

(in market cap)

maybe he is😂

Interesting

secretly hurting

While I was gone I also sold all my alts

All in XMR now baby

Sick of dealing with all these pairs in want to simplify my trading

did you get off exchange!?

* Sick of dealing with all these pairs i want to simplify my trading

<bobbieweirder[m] "did you get off exchange!?"> Not yet I'm going to get my trade csv file of all trades and I'm out

Going to report for this tax season and I'm then I'm ghosting

So I can plug the csv file into crypto tax software and be done with it

WHAT crypto tax software

🤯

Yeah it does it all for you

I will find a link one sec

Need to test it out more though

Hopefully it does not count sending to another wallet as selling or something like that.

thanks i’ll check it out

Yeah hopefully it makes the process smoother.

You can plug the api directly also as "read only"

Can't wait to get of these KYC exchanges it feels skummy. These exchanges are really the banks and regulators bitches right now. I don't want to be a part of it.

Its interesting to see what the future will bring regarding crypto

Monero seems to have the best use case right now in terms of privacy and real value.

it went from cypherpunk to very not cypherpunk very quickly

crypto in general

shilling on twitter, 125x futures on binance lol

but it’s all just part of the whole deal. if we want everyone to use crypto there needs to be a place for everyone i suppose

Yeah agreed, it turned into people arguing over coins. And calling everything but btc a shitcoin.

listen to the new monero talk episode

Will do for sure

What's it hosted on?

i listen on stitcher

Would love to check it out

but i think it’s “anywhere you get your podcasts”

also yt: youtube.com/channel/UC3Hx81QYLoEQkm3vyl4N4eQ

Thanks tuning in now 😎

seth’s episode from last week also

ishikawa[m]: but really though, almost everything except for btc is a shitcoin. monero is a rare exception

bitcoin might be quite broken (not fungible, no privacy) but at least it was fairly launched with no premine or ico and no bs

if you know anyone who owns retail businesses help them set up XMR payments

<bobbieweirder[m] "if you know anyone who owns reta"> Great idea. Its actually really easy to set up. In was looking into not that long ago

last week for moneroversary doug was selling coffee and if someone wanted to pay in cash it was $10 and he would help them set up a wallet and send them their change in XMR

you can incorporate something like that between friends

otherwise i just keep having conversations and stick monero stickers everywhere like a mad person

bobbieweirder: this is awsome!

My friend recently owed me some money so I made him set up an xmr wallet and transfer me that and anytime he owes me he just uses that.

I have set up about 4 friends so far.

And vice versa

people in my life always complain about XMR being too hard/expensive to get

That's were my persuasive nature comes into play.

I really try and tell them why it benefits them directly

07:37 < ishikawa[m]> <bobbieweirder[m] "if you know anyone who owns reta"> Great idea. Its actually really easy to set up. In was looking into not that long ago

What's your process for getting someone set up to use Monero in retail?

Do you have it described online anywhere?

<apotheon "What's your process for getting "> There are integrated solutions you can use with existing pos systems also

Oh, this seems to be about online stuff.

I was thinking brick and mortar.

apotheon: github.com/amiuhle/kasisto

Yeah. The problem is they also need some accounting knowledge for dealing with it (re: payment gateways), and it'd be difficult to get someone on board without being able to give them some kind of useful information.

Kasisto looks interesting, though. Thanks for that.

Well . . . off to bed. G'night!

Fyi that guy that got banned is going at it again in monero markets ahahah lol

Does not give up lol

dude

the L guy?

I just spent like 2 hours in his matrix channel bullying him

hes insanely cringe

like

its wild people like that exist

Yeah that guy

Yeah it baffles me

he posts like weird GME memes in his channel, claims to be a 15 year stock broker with a PHD that owns billions in bitcoins

its like some weird wallstreetbets matrix channel

I just sat there for 2 hours berating him and asking him to post a single asset he owns that is over 1k since he claims to be rich

Dude wtf!? That's cringe as fuck

yea

People really out there, what stumps me the most is.....why?!

What motivates him ahahaha

i think hes underage

and trying to be cool or something

thats what i got

from interacting with him for a couple hours

Hahhaah that's better than what i got

Let's see if he gets another ban

Where will he go from there I wonder

* Where will he go from there I wonder

abcdefg_irssi: he’s in momo markets now i think 😂 mumuks threatened to ban

Yeah I just seen that now ahahaha

abcdefg_irssi: did you get on that conference call

Looks like spacekitty420 joined ahahah

Lol lol

what's up

<bobbieweirder[m] "abcdefg_irssi: he’s in momo mark"> He posted the link to his room earlier and I let it stand. Then a few hours later he posted the link again. Once is enough.

spacekitty420: your friend in monero markets

🤷‍♀️

Mumuks: he already got banned from here earlier

<bobbieweirder[m] "Mumuks: he already got banned fr"> Yeah, I have too much patience

<spacekitty420[m] "🤷‍♀️"> I was talking about that guy you roasted progressed to another monero channel to continue his lameness.

i think as long as the n words and f words get deleted it’s fine. we get spam bots all the time and we just coexist

<bobbieweirder[m] "i think as long as the n words a"> Yeah people here are pretty chill and open minded and to get banned from a chat like this is kinda lame lol

eh, just cant be bothered with these people anymore nowadays tbh

Yeah gets a bit much

Any opinions on good non KYC exchanges apart from tradeogre?

Possibly Tor friendly

* Possibly Tor friendly

<ishikawa[m] "Any opinions on good non KYC exc"> there's a decent list over there: kycnot.me

Tradeogre would be awesome if it let you use Tor.

Either way its good and there are other options as well.

Localmonero seems to be the ticket.

I just like how easy tradeogre is

i wish i were the localmonero guy in my area

Ahaha same here! Maybe we can be the local monero guys in our area

be the change you want to see

<bobbieweirder[m] "i think as long as the n words a"> I have a mod bot that removes the spam in #monero-markets:monero.social , it just needs to be made mod, I could bring it here if you guys want

If you decide you want it, just ping me

Ugh, so painful to watch this

Those Bitcoin maximalists...

"I'm at a point I don't even want Bitcoin anymore. Just give me Monero and I don't have to worry about anything."

same

True

<Kontvolkoren "odysee.com/@MoneroTalk:8"> add this to your RSS reader! lbryfeed.melroy.org/channel/odysee/@MoneroTalk:8

> <@spacekitty420:matrix.org> "I'm at a point I don't even want Bitcoin anymore. Just give me Monero and I don't have to worry about anything."

> same

based

OH! i saw the meme he talking about x)

<Kontvolkoren "odysee.com/@MoneroTalk:8"> oki so dumbfuck didnt get the memo that chainalysis got the $625k from irs BECAUSE of LN, he being all like "LN is private" and whatnot, jfc.....

He doesn't seem stupid to me. I think he's a believer in BTC's firstness and the momentum it gained because of that. He thinks that that momentum is crucial for the success of a cryptocurrency. He admits that if monero were the one that was first, then it would probably be the one to support instead

muh first mover

some of us on the other believe that monero provides a significant enough value as an innovation that it will not matter that it's not first

other hand*

i tend to think that too

the monerotalk is really good at these interviews!!

monerotalk host*

he contradicts himself tho, being like he aint in it to make a quick buck and then saying shits like its censorship-resistant because how much money in it and then even saying that the public ledger is one of the reason its censorship resistant

am still at the begining of the thingy for now but... because the ledger is public is the reason why anyone can be like "aint doing business with you cause you received a payment from that other someone that believes pepsi is better than coca-cola"

to be fair, i don't want to deal with anyone brainwashed into thinking that pepsi is better than coca-cola

maybe transparent blockchains are the way to go after all

x)

Do you have any evidence that pepsi is better than coca-cola?

<SpaceKitty> how many people ended up ded which in their lives been drinking coca-cola? :hyperthonk:

super ded

/kickban andrewjackson

<mechanic41turk[m "muh first mover"> having watched more of it i feel like his entire position boils down to this

I'm watching the talk now and its seems like he is talking about monero then I realise he's not.

monero is what bitcoin maxis think they have.

coca-cola isn't as sweet as pepsi, you just lack the extra incentive and dopamine hit from consuming it

<mechanic41turk[m "monero is what bitcoin maxis thi"> This guy in the talk says he's a libertarian/anarchist I don't see how Bitcoin follows that thinking model.

He sort of mentally teleports to a beautiful stateless future where privacy on the main chain doesn't matter anymore

Yeah exactly

But I feel like the main issue is that he underestimates how much better monero is at getting there, if that's where we are headed

I was trying to be open minded watching it and take on board his viewpoint bit it all just falls flat for me tbh

What's censorship resistance without privacy?

<mechanimist[m] "He sort of mentally teleports to"> This hit the nail on the head

IDK I feel like I see where he's coming from if I also mentally teleport to a stateless future, but I get hung up on how he expects BTC to be able to get us there from here

Yeah he mentions talk is cheap and I'm kinda seeing a bit of that from him

I do understand what he is saying but i think there is not much behind it apart from his view of this stateless future were privacy doesn't matter.

And his version of privacy is the LN

yeah

Kinda got me fuled up to buy more XMR

His view of the future of BTC seems to be similar to the gold standard in the past

where banking layers got built on top of an underlying gold network

he wants banking layers to be built on top of an underlying BTC network

but how is that more state resistant?

Some of the most censorship resistance we have had has comes from privacy based projects.

Not fucking banks

yup

This BTC Maxi's i swear!

he didnt know about:

talking about "censorship-resistant" while btc is already being censored....

and going to his happy place of his own utoia in which btc is the only currency for all 10 billions of people of the earth as a counter argument....

utopia*

Yes this 👆

Top comment on that post:

"if only there was a cryptocurrency where censorship was impossible and mining centralization didn't exist....."

It all sounded very cypherpunk, Anarchistic, libertarian.

But fell flat the moment he went off into his utopia vision for "his" version of the future.

Shit keeps coming full circle back to monero for me every damn time

i am quite sympathetic to his vision, but i still think his argument for not supporting monero falls flat because of consideration about how to actually get to that future

Yes don't get me wrong I Love the vision!!!

That's why I thought he was talking about monero ahaha

haha exactly

I was Like dope vision dude, we sound like we have similar views and then he said all that shit.

yup :/

the mining part, specially like "you can get energy from anywhere so you can mine it from literally anywhere" like... he talking about monero when he thinking he talks about btc..... the centralized nature of asics makes it very niche and expensive market for a selected few, he didnt even have a counter argument to monero mining but "nah, asics just better lolol"

Maybe he got confused about this utopia and he's actually talking about monero?

Actually yes that's what happened

It all makes sense now

hello

idk, thats just too weird, like host mentioned "hypocrisy"

henlo o/

what do you think of a federated online marketplace?

what does federated means in that context?

a chinese btc mining farm went down recently, and i heard that the hash rate dropped like 20% (from one major farm goin down).

centralized

ooft

enjoy dem slow blocks with readjustment in 2016 blocks o.o

federation is like matrix many servers but on the same network

The biggest monero pool controls more than a third of the hash rate.

<grc001[m] "a chinese btc mining farm went d"> yeah, and following that, the transaction fees have skyrocketed to 20 bucks.

i am working already on this

i am collecting ideas, people and donations

btc is fkn stupid

mly: you got a git published somewhere?

it goes without saying

<mechanic41turk[m "yeah, and following that, the tr"> My friend has a BTC transaction stuck at the moment with no confirmations

Hopefully it drops off the chain eventually

<ishikawa[m] "My friend has a BTC transaction "> many such cases.

yes github.com/o-nly/xopow

Stuck in mempool

i kept having to "bump fees" and then i said fck it im out and then dumped it all for xmr

i have a channel too: #xopow:disencord.disenthrall.me

Actually whats the best way to get a stuck transaction out?

<mechanic41turk[m "yeah, and following that, the tr"> why would that affect transaction fees? I thought that the PoW difficulty scales to keep the number of blocks per unit time constant. i would think that this would keep fees the same after a change in the hash rate. fees are people bidding on getting their transaction put into the next block, right? they are not bidding on hashes. What am I missing here?

Is there an expiration date on mempool transactions, like imagine i put 1 tenth of a cent as a transaction fee

Fewer blocks mean smaller throughput.

mechanimist: 20 percent of the hashrate is gone suddenly. But due to 2016 block difficulty readjustment constant, the network didn't drop the difficulty immediately following the hashrate drop.

so it got more difficult to find blocks.

people had to wait more and more time for the blocks to be found.

mechanic41turk: oh i see, so there's a delay in the hash rate adjustment. interesting!

this drove the transaction price up.

block difficulty adjustment**

<mechanimist[m] "mechanic41turk: oh i see, so the"> yeah. it's anachronistic rather than interesting, really.

<mechanimist[m] "block difficulty adjustment**"> yeah

<mechanic41turk[m "this drove the transaction price"> NUMBA GO UPP BABBBYY !!!

matt_odell.jpeg

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<moneromooo "The biggest monero pool controls"> thats disconcerting, no?

uh huh

or u mean thats a good thing?

sorry, im above my pay grade here

not good, centralization bad

yea i figured, but xmr is growing, hopefully more pools and stuff

i wanna mine but pc will melt if i do

they're pointing out that the mining network is not currently much better than bitcoin's in terms of centralization, if not worse

(but monero has much more potential for decentralized mining )

there's alot of pools already:

but same as the cryptocoins, btc having majority with the "dominance" stat thingy

mechanimist[m]: bitcoin's is a bit different. iirc the top few pools are basically owned/controlled by bitmain anyway so it's all just a front

there's some coins that even adopted the "pool-resistance" ideology for few years now, everyone a node, fully decentralized

and also everyone needs to get their miners from bitmain (after they're done mining with them for themselves)

ah didn't know that

So what's the share of bitmain's bitcoin hash rate then ?

100%

or close

Sorry, I meant the pools, now actual hardware.

I assume that changes the answer...

haha fair :P, idk tho x)

antpool (13%) + viabtc (13%) + btc.com (9%), so it's not as bad as i remembered :p

Oh, viabtc is bitmain... THanks, good info.

35% then but guessing the other % majority of it is still centralized in china tho

never heard of bitmain, just searched n found an article 'Bitmain Mining Monopoly - Dancing with the Devil' - ima giv it a read

<mechanimist[m] "they're pointing out that the mi"> Moneros mining decentralization is waay ahead of bitcoins

Apparently ~70 percent of bitcoin mining facilities are located in chinese soil

And some whopping 80 percent or some mining pool operators are chinese nationals.

gumroad looks cool

mechanic41turk: do we have stats of that sort for monero?

<mechanimist[m] "mechanic41turk: do we have stats"> There are websites listing monero pools

holy shit just tried to listen to that latest ep of monero talk, and that super maxi boi extreme delux bitcoiner sounds maximally cringe.

Literally just spitting off the nakamoto institute articles he read

Daniel Krawicz's writings

and some parts of MIses' human action, and mostly saifedean's "everything is fiat now" line

bruuuh

don't they realize how cringe, simplistic, and honestly, insufferable they sound?

<mechanic41turk[m> Apparently ~70 percent of bitcoin mining facilities are located in chinese soil

this is fine™

(:D)

but - they will tell you - 100% of monero mining facilities are located on EARTH!

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<kayront "but - they will tell you - 100% "> indeed, patoshi were mined from outerspace UwU

Crap. I deopped -_-

Word of guys running Monero community should be BELIEVED. Why would anyone that stole money and laughed at the losers that took the bait ever have a reason to lie to you? removeddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6d…ds_to_give_up_his_commit_access_and (changed link to removeddit since /r/monero mod removed to try to cover it up - maybe fluffy himself?)

hahaha this fkn guy

chew a dick. and u cant respond back haha

grc001[m]: best just to ignore :D maybe your client lets you filter out messages containing keywords so you don't have to see it anymore

i got no probs with it, just wanted to respond once. ure right not good to feed the trolls

kayront: its worse than that, 85% of hashrate is controlled by mining pools in china or hong kong

06:37 < abcdefg_irssi> already dropped hard r's in the channel

What is a "hard r"?

06:28 < spacekitty420[m]> there aint no cypherpunks no more, only dipshit wallstreet wannabes

n word ending in an r

spacekitty420[m]: You just aren't looking in the right places.

mechanimist[m]: Oh, fun.

I didn't read enough of that disaster going on earlier to notice that.

mechanimist[m]: Thanks for clearing that up for me.

:)

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rupee[m]: Hi. How's life?

great! how are you?

Not too shabby.

I'm awake much earlier than I'd like, though.

Hi there! I am having some issues retrieving my monero balance on the gui via ledger and was hoping someone here may be willing to help me out.

Check the value of "restore from height" or similar name in the options. Is it higher than the block height you got yout first transaction ?

"Wallet restore height" in Settings -> Info

The value of the restore height is 1455028. The last transaction I made was a withdrawal from binance in April 2018

2019*

When was the first transaction?

Good question. I had to reset my ledger around that time so I think it should also be around then. I'm honestly not too sure though

your restore height should be ok

which "wallet mode" are you using? You can also see that in Settings -> Info

simple

version?

0.17.2.1-8444a956 (Qt 5.15.2)

ok, did you wait for the scanning process to finish?

does it say on the left side daemon and wallet are synchronized?

Yeah, it says wallet and daemon are synced

I assume you also saw it sync for 20+ minutes?

yeah

ok, can you verify that the address matches your old address?

The address does not match

did you change the account setting on your Ledger settings?

you have to select account #0

I tried the 9 different accounts on my ledger

all 9 don't match?

no. When I first opened the gui, I also selected "create new wallet from ledger" on accident instead of restore old wallet from ledger. Is it possible the new wallet overwrote the old one?

no

create new wallet from ledger / restore from ledger is just related to your restore height

oh okay

do you use a ledger passphrase?

yes

this?

if you initially did not use a passphrase and now use one it will regenerate a different account

> The passphrase is essentially a password added to your 24-word recovery phrase that provides access to a whole new set of accounts.

oh. sorry. I confused that with the pin I enter

I don't have a passphrase

The first step is you have to have the same address displayed on your Ledger as you had 2 years ago

18:17 <gaulderson> Good question. I had to reset my ledger around that time so I think it should also be around then. I'm honestly not too sure though <-- did you reset your Ledger with a new seed?

Yes, but the funds were withdrawn to the new seed ledger

I lost my old 24 word recovery phase so I deposited monero to binance, resetted ledger with new seed so I could write it down, then withdrew to new ledger

this was in april 2019

Does your address on your Ledger start with 4?

yes

ok, like I said the address on the Ledger has to match the address on the binance withdrawal

then you can restore in the GUI

I am confused as to why they do not

so unless I can figure out why the addresses don't match I'm screwed?

I'm running out of ideas

hey my node has banned like 20 nodes in the last few minutes

did a reverse search on the ips and they are all coming from a VPS provider in ovh.co.uk

is the cause for concern?

ips

Yes, they're probably known asshole nodes, trying to mess with you. Just igore them.

my node also banned a few and they trace back to the same provider

Is this the same person/group that tried to attack the network in nov/dec?

probably

even if it's not the same group, we have no idea so will keep blaming the original asshole

are the IPs in gui.xmr.pm/files/block.txt ?

if yes it is the same person

Has anyone tried to do peephole optimization of randomx?

yanmaani it's pretty useless, try to find any sub-optimal places in the code here: xmrchain.net/randomx/2346463

sech1: ixor_r r2, r1 could be replaced by nop

same goes for most of the stuff in the beginning

no it couldn't

these are different registers

sech1: yes, but they both start as 0x0

it's inside the loop

the stuff with r1: could be determined that r1 gets loaded to, so r1 is only interesting in terms of what it does for r3

do you know that all registers are XOR'ed with values from scratchpad in the beginning of each iteration?

they're not even 0 when this code starts executing

but it says r1: r1: 0x0000000000000000 right there

this is before first loop iteration

this is how each iteration starts

and only then goes that code

well, OK

what about the branches?

what about them?

If there's only a 1/256 chance of them being taken, couldn't a miner strip them all out, heavily optimize the code, and then take the risk?

each program runs 2048 iterations, 2048/256=8

it's better to continue in #monero-pow

You mean the 8 different programs part?

In Monero why is there a primary address and subaddresses if they're functionally identical? Why not just present them as 'addresses'? Why is there a distinction?

selsta: just checked one of the ips and they match the banlist

botcoinnotbot[m]: yea they never took down the malicious nodes

can you give me a qrd on how to automatically incorporate the banlist into my node please

illegaltransacti: you may not want to give your actual address to people

it's nice to have an alias

botcoinnotbot[m]: either start with --enable-dns-blocklist

or download block.txt on your computer and start node with --ban-list /path/to/block

illegaltransacti: historical reasons, and also mining can only be done to the standard address (for code simplicity).

Subaddresses are comparatively new, and backward compatibility was needed.

what can the malicious nodes even do? monitor transactions?

Monitor traffic, feed you bad data, not relay your data.

DoS you.

will subaddresses help prevent EAE attacks

If youre using a new subaddress for each transaction?

they prevent different identities being linked by the same address

after listening to the breaking monero series you can prevent EAE attacks with churning but others probably know more than me

Churning is probably not a hugely effective countermeasure.

Kinda depends how you do it. And the details are... unclear.

ok so monero is faster, with lower tx fees and more private than BTC

but what would happen if monero was as popular as BTC

would those things still be true

it would still be faster, lower tx fees, and more private

The world would've been a better place

monero has dynamic block sizes which alleviates tx problems and the privacy features would not change, although they might attract more attention from people trying to crack it

I watched the breaking monero episode

on EAE

and I'm just trying to figure out how to avoid that

because that to me seems to be the most common scenario

controlled buy -> monitor outputs -> exchange co-operates

Monero txes take longer to verify than Bitcoin txes. They're way more private though. Transaction fees would still be lower.

And if Monero was more popular (I assume a proxy for usage), it'd become even more private,

abcdefg_irssi: coin control can help protect you from mixing outputs in a tx

If we switch to triptych with higher ring size, tx verification will become slower too (though more private).

I presume most people still want triptych and higher ring size

youtu.be/uHKq-n2c0PE?t=1408 <- not sure if I understood exactly what is being said here, however, is it true that triptych will improve blockchain verification time?

Unlikely. It's faster per ring member I think, but ring size will almost certainly increase.

it's faster for a given ringsize

but yeah, ringsize increase will completely cancel that

hyc: I hear a rumor you might have working i2pd+monerod config.

yes, it wasn't too complicated

lemme see where it went

Cool. Thanks.

Youse guys are awesome.

Thanks.

What about the i2pd side of things? (I haven't actually used i2pd yet.)

Oh, wait. Is this the i2pd config?

criminy, I'm ignorant about this still

that goes in /etc/i2pd/tunnels.conf.d/monero.conf

gotcha

How about the monero side, then?

there's a bunch of cmdline flags, yeah

one sec

actually that should be in the ANONYMITY_NETWORKS.md doc already

Many thanks. I'll stick that in an alias, or a service script, or something.

ah

If that suits the i2pd setup, then I'll use that. Thanks.

(I'll read documentation of the options, of course.)

the pertinent flags are /monerod --anonymous-inbound wqcbpmrlvulvhv7vn4r6jbx7d6qgodvh676amtlynn5eg32umc4q.b32.i2p,127.0.0.1:8061 --tx-proxy i2p,127.0.0.1:8060

obviously you use your own i2p address there instead of mine

one would hope

hyc: Thanks much.

what's triptych gonna end up at?

no prob

btw the -keys.dat file goes in /var/lib/i2pd

noted

I don't have the command used to generate the keys. it was in the i2pd docs anyway

I'll look at those.

That's for relaying transactions via i2p, right?

yeah

And if I want more i2p peers I can add more --anonymous-inbound destinations, right?

I don't think that's how it works

When Tari finally comes out, will you dump your Monero to buy it? Will others?

ecvuxcbal: just want all spooks, jannies, IRS agents, shills and bitcoin maxis to know that I am never ever ever ever going to sell my monero

Any ideas on how many non-mining nodes there are in monero?

Inge-: utxobr found 4320 yesterday

Not sure how many were mining tho

4320 reachable, 16k total (clearnet)

added socks5 support today, will run some numbers again soon

kk

cool

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I want my $0.0000012 cents today!

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No sense for me!

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are the bots playin up? monerobux i think mite be sleepin in markets room

there was a netspilt

things still coming back and you will need to login again

sweet az. nioc u were the first person to help us wen i first came here. champ.

I still can't login yet

I help where I can :)

i logged back in

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yea champion. no homo tho.

guess me too

We're all Guests here.

no, u r Mochi101

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wallet must be ded after the split

RIP old friend

Is Monero a clunky research project or something actually ready to be used as a currency by the world?

dirtmount: ready bro! The clunky code shit is baseless fud

It's kinda between both I'd say.

It's supposed to be solid. However, it can't reasonably scale to world currency atm.

Then again, neither can anything else really.

How much can it currently reasonably scale?

moneromooo: i have faith in the exponential power of computing that bu the time it gets to that the network can handle it but that is just my bullish opinion

*but

Depends on your definition of reasonably. It's a continuum. It doesn't seem to have any trouble atm, for example.

ArticMine is the one to ask about scaling

I found a Monero wallet file that's about 4 years old I think, and the GUI freezes and completely crashes when I try to open it. Do I need to do something special with it?

what happens when you open it with the cli?

Open it with monero-wallet-cli.

I

I'll try that.

Also, if you know how to get a stack trace for hte GUI crash, post it to paste.debian.net

jesusthehealer[m: do you use ledger?

hey does the gui auto-update? i see theres a new gui version out but it didnt auto-update (or "check for updates"). Im not using macOS.

Nope

It checks TXT records. They're still at 0.17.1.9.

the newest version is 0.17.2.1

so itll auto-update, or just check for update, when it deems it neccessary for one's os or otherwise?

grc001[m]: we did not activate the auto updater yet

we only activate it if the new release has new major bugs reported

currently the latest GUI release has issues with multiple displays so we did not activate the auto updater

sweet, cheers selsta. my gui has been working fine. im on the version previous to newest vrsion.

so to butt in with my question, jesus dude needs help... u fckrs r too good to us plebs, yous put in work helpin us out. cheers

*sorry to butt

grc001[m]: so yea, in 1-2 weeks the auto update should pop up with v0.17.2.2

thats mad az, nice!

grc001[m]: that's what this channel is for

MVPs, the lot of ya